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Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate 4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:- a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement  number xxxxxx. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     The total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by First class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges 5.  At the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage. Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024  What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg  
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Hi I'm asking for refund for my Natwest and My halifax

sent off my DPA Halifax have responded but natwest haven't.

 

DPA sent 13/04

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Claim filed 30/01/07

2nd Request £1500 nov 06

Prelim Request £1500 16/10

Lloyds Data Protection Act 07/08

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Abbey Credit card settled £266 11/06

NatWest paid in full £3770 04/08/06

Hurray Halifax Paid in full £1820.00 28/05/06

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Hi,

 

Welcome to the forum.

 

The banks have 40 days to comply, so I wouldn't lose any sleep over it yet. However, you may want to give them a little nudge after about 30 days...just so they know you haven't forgotten...as you can imagine, the banks are a little busy with DPA requests at the moment :rolleyes:

 

Good luck.

Alecto, Magaera et Tisiphone: Nemesis on Earth is come.

 

All advice and opinions given by Spiceskull are personal, and are not endorsed by Consumer Action Group or Bank Action Group. Your decisions and actions are your own, and should you be in any doubt, you are advised to seek the opinion of a qualified professional.

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  • 3 weeks later...

Phoned Nat West After 35 Days they denied reciept of my letter and I hadn't thought to send it recorded delivery.

Had to start all over again........clock reset

Thanks Foaf26907

Claim filed 30/01/07

2nd Request £1500 nov 06

Prelim Request £1500 16/10

Lloyds Data Protection Act 07/08

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Abbey Credit card settled £266 11/06

NatWest paid in full £3770 04/08/06

Hurray Halifax Paid in full £1820.00 28/05/06

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Haven't heard from Natwest sent LBA - Data Protection Act.

Thanks Foaf26907

Claim filed 30/01/07

2nd Request £1500 nov 06

Prelim Request £1500 16/10

Lloyds Data Protection Act 07/08

------------------------------------

Abbey Credit card settled £266 11/06

NatWest paid in full £3770 04/08/06

Hurray Halifax Paid in full £1820.00 28/05/06

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  • 2 weeks later...

haven't heard a thing from Natwest. Sent LBA DPA to DPA Manager in the Natwest contact thread. Will give them a call I suppose bearing in mind that it's said to take weeks to hear back from Data commision....

Thanks Foaf26907

Claim filed 30/01/07

2nd Request £1500 nov 06

Prelim Request £1500 16/10

Lloyds Data Protection Act 07/08

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Abbey Credit card settled £266 11/06

NatWest paid in full £3770 04/08/06

Hurray Halifax Paid in full £1820.00 28/05/06

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  • 3 weeks later...

At last Statements recieved from a colleague of Stuart Higley's.

Sent prelim request with 14 days notice. As they have wasted my time I'm going to cut to the chase - given them 14 days for full refund or action will be taken.

Clock has finally started ticking.

Thanks Foaf26907

Claim filed 30/01/07

2nd Request £1500 nov 06

Prelim Request £1500 16/10

Lloyds Data Protection Act 07/08

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Abbey Credit card settled £266 11/06

NatWest paid in full £3770 04/08/06

Hurray Halifax Paid in full £1820.00 28/05/06

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Stuart Higley says Natwest charges are fair & they won't refund my money.

Letter recieved refund declined . Proceeding with claim.

Thanks Foaf26907

Claim filed 30/01/07

2nd Request £1500 nov 06

Prelim Request £1500 16/10

Lloyds Data Protection Act 07/08

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Abbey Credit card settled £266 11/06

NatWest paid in full £3770 04/08/06

Hurray Halifax Paid in full £1820.00 28/05/06

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have'nt had a beep out of natwest. well I have had a chance to read through some threads espcially Toilet bandit and it seems I should be waiting for a defence from corbetts with a cpr18 ......

They have until Weds 3rd Aug to file a defence so I'm ready for them...

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Claim filed 30/01/07

2nd Request £1500 nov 06

Prelim Request £1500 16/10

Lloyds Data Protection Act 07/08

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Abbey Credit card settled £266 11/06

NatWest paid in full £3770 04/08/06

Hurray Halifax Paid in full £1820.00 28/05/06

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OK 2 days before time up recieved letter from Cobbets

 

We refer to the above matter.

Our client considers your challenge to it's charges would fail in court. Our client believes its charges are fair,.......etc blah, blah, blah

Then on to good will gesture of £1,900 on basis that I don't disclose to third party & withdraw claim.

Gives me 7 days to respond.

 

OK am I right in presuming this is the standard letter Cobbett send before putting in a defence? I have read Toilet Bandit's thread and done a serach in this forum on Cobbett but I couldn't actually find for sure that this is the standard procedure. I am getting really cheesed off with them dragging thier heels but I am ready to wait for what is rightfully mine.

I will of course refuse the offer does anyone have a half decent letter I can use to decline the offer?

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Claim filed 30/01/07

2nd Request £1500 nov 06

Prelim Request £1500 16/10

Lloyds Data Protection Act 07/08

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Abbey Credit card settled £266 11/06

NatWest paid in full £3770 04/08/06

Hurray Halifax Paid in full £1820.00 28/05/06

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Help Help help,:confused:

 

I've just realised that as the 28 days is up tomorrow does that mean I have to wait for a reply from Cobetts before I can request judgement or am I to request judgement anyway.

 

Can someone anyone out there please help or Pm me or something

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Claim filed 30/01/07

2nd Request £1500 nov 06

Prelim Request £1500 16/10

Lloyds Data Protection Act 07/08

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Abbey Credit card settled £266 11/06

NatWest paid in full £3770 04/08/06

Hurray Halifax Paid in full £1820.00 28/05/06

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I don't know enough to answer your question, but most advice I've seen round here seems to be that you really shouldn't accept their offer - hold out for the full amount. Send them a short quick letter accepting their offer in part settlement.

 

Don't panic, it can all be sorted out by tomorrow but you might have to wait for people to get home from work and get online this evening.

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OK have managed to calm down (Thanks cumbria 123)

 

sent off an email to Cobbetts

 

Cobbetts LLP

Ship Canal House

King Street

Manchester M2 4WB

Dear Sirs

Claim No 6XXCCCC

 

Thank you for your letter of 28th July 2006.

However, as you can see from the papers relating to the above claim the full amount being claimed is £3770 which can be broken down as follows:

Reclaim of bank charges £3209

Interest on above sum £441.15

Court Costs £120

Total £3770

As you will therefore appreciate, £1900 only covers part of the claim.

I will quite happily withdraw the claim when the claim has been settled in full.

I look forward to hearing with you in the near future.

Yours

sent it to [email protected] and have recieved a read reciept.

As I have this as proof letter has been read I'll sit back (calmly) and wait for either deadline to lapse or to file CPR18.

I have found an extensive & detailed version of the cpr18 which I am getting ready to send written by rbrears in the general forum

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general/15172-reply-stock-defence-18-a.html

Thanks

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Claim filed 30/01/07

2nd Request £1500 nov 06

Prelim Request £1500 16/10

Lloyds Data Protection Act 07/08

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Abbey Credit card settled £266 11/06

NatWest paid in full £3770 04/08/06

Hurray Halifax Paid in full £1820.00 28/05/06

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Saw the slot on GMTV this morning! Big up to CAG:D

 

I recieved defence & cpr18 this morning.

Do I need to file an amended POC as Rbears or just send a letter as toilet bandit with my cpr18?

 

The defence document says ....."the particuars of claim do not plead full & necessary particulars concerning the contract between the claimant and the defendant.....no admissions are made as to whether there is a contract between the calimant & defendant........."

 

can someone/moderator/anyone who knows, please respond as I am a bit confused at the best course of action.

pls pls pls some1 respond

Thanks

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Claim filed 30/01/07

2nd Request £1500 nov 06

Prelim Request £1500 16/10

Lloyds Data Protection Act 07/08

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Abbey Credit card settled £266 11/06

NatWest paid in full £3770 04/08/06

Hurray Halifax Paid in full £1820.00 28/05/06

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Hi Foaf26907

 

Looks like I am aobut a week and a few days ahead of you. I have received the defence (standard), Lynsey Burgoyne is also who sent the defence to me, and I received the Allocation Questionnaire yesterday.

 

As I understand, and I have yet to reply, you dont need to even reply to cobbetts as it is the courts discretion to determine whether the particulars of the claim are unsuitable. I think its a stalling tactic??!! I think we have a few options (based on the threads I have read). Either:

 

1. Ignore cobbetts and just send the AQ back to court

2. Send a letter to cobbetts stating that the CPR part 18 has nothing to do with small claims.

3. Send a letter to cbbetts stating that the particulars are all there in black and white as per your claim, and that Nat West have all the info you need - they levied the charges in the first place.

4. Send a letter with points 2 & 3 and submit a CPR part 18 yourself asking for more information from Nat West.

 

I have yet to decide what best but Lynne (thanks again !!) has emailed me a fantastic letter based on point 4 above that I'll forward onto you. Let me know your email add.

 

Can anyone else (mods) suggest the best course of action or will any of the above do the job?

 

Good luck and I'll keep an eye on your progress.

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A & L, * WON *, 11/2006, £188

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Thanks have sent u my email address. Have put together a reply based on other postings. Haven't got an AQ yet but expecting it thanks Cumbria123.

 

I'll email letter straight to Lynne directly at Cobbetts. I'm actually trying to move this along as fast as I can now I'm need the money now :smile: so email's quicker than post and I get a read reciept.Hope this is OK though ?

 

Is it OK for me to give them just 7 days to reply when they gave me 14 days to respond to thiers?

 

.

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Claim filed 30/01/07

2nd Request £1500 nov 06

Prelim Request £1500 16/10

Lloyds Data Protection Act 07/08

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Abbey Credit card settled £266 11/06

NatWest paid in full £3770 04/08/06

Hurray Halifax Paid in full £1820.00 28/05/06

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I did points 2 to 4 in reply to the defence to my first claim (2 others are a little behind and yet to receive the defence). Then I amended the particulars of claim to the defended claim because I calculated the interest wrongly by £1000, so its back to day one. However, in the amended claim, I filed the paper N1 not the moneyclaim online and so I gave a more detailed claim. I'm hooked. Its WAR.

Its WAR

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Hip hip horray got the cheque this morning full amount £3770!!!:D

 

also got AQ this morning from court do I contact local court case has been transferred to close case?

 

thanks to evry1 for all your help

 

ready to take on LLyods now........

soon as RBS cheque clears I'll definately make a donation.

Thanks Foaf26907

Claim filed 30/01/07

2nd Request £1500 nov 06

Prelim Request £1500 16/10

Lloyds Data Protection Act 07/08

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Abbey Credit card settled £266 11/06

NatWest paid in full £3770 04/08/06

Hurray Halifax Paid in full £1820.00 28/05/06

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CONGRATULATIONS!!!! :)

 

That's such fantastic news. So glad to hear that people are still getting their cheques. I'm still miles behind, but this makes me feel so much more positive!

 

You're going to have a good weekend!

 

 

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Hi Foaf26907...Congratulations on getting your money back.

I'm waiting for confermation that NatWest have been served at the moment.

I was reading what NatWest put in their denence...that part that states:

 

"no admissions are made as to whether there is a contract between the calimant & defendant"

 

How can they claim this? The fact you have given your bank account details in your claim and hopefully included bank statements which shows the charges they have made would clearly indercate that you were in a contract with them. If not, then how could they even attempt to justify putting charges on your account?

NatWest:

**£466.28 Settled In Full 21/08/06**

Halifax:

**Full settlement of £107.52 offerd and accepted 25/10/06**

GE Money:

**£48 settled In Full 19/09/06**

Barclays Bank:

**Full settlement of £90 offered and accepted on 24/10/06**

Alliance & Leicester:

**£170 Refunded In Full 17/09/07 (Charges due to bank error but still had to fight them for almost 3 weeks to get back)**

 

"Thin-de le'hasuan 'aloun'myin-del bpi-de gka-de hasou-de paya"

"Learn the gifts of all sights, or finish in the dance of the fallen gods."

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Claim filed 30/01/07

2nd Request £1500 nov 06

Prelim Request £1500 16/10

Lloyds Data Protection Act 07/08

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Abbey Credit card settled £266 11/06

NatWest paid in full £3770 04/08/06

Hurray Halifax Paid in full £1820.00 28/05/06

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