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    • “Not realising it was a no parking zone” doesn’t help you if the timing is correct, as (at least, on Google Maps / View) there is clear signage ('7am to midnight', parked at 15:22) What might be worth pursuing is the "ticket handed to driver" aspect : do you have any view on why they would be  stating that?
    • it's 85k of turnover (well, now £90k). However, you're digging yourself into another hole here. That ship has probably long since sailed. Is it worth pursuing this? You're not going to get anything back from it either way.
    • Hi,   A few pointers from yesterday to take note of evris cpr 27.9 failed again so we should really make issue of this also their WX fail to comply with CPR so again we should take issue with their statement of truth  you cant get tort if you get damages under subsection 7 of CRA because its double recovery  - not sure what we think of this? however its the first time i saw the judges make reference to your non automatic rights from s49 which s54 and 57 assist with. We should start stating this specifically for claims as I think its much better than just 49 and 57 as we need to make it clear where our non automatic rights come from as 54 automatic frankly dont help  I have sent the claim form and defences to the admin email because I can’t upload them for some reason as it wont let me but thought this may help as its the first time we’ve taken tort to trial. although i think the DDJ was honestly struggling to understand some parts of the law because he was asking me about them and how he should interpret them, especially for the automatic. Will apply for transcript if you want it?
    • I decided on confrontation - which I hate.  Omg the arrogance of the driver.  They refused to say who had given them the alleged permission to park on the private land - unless I proved ownership.  I couldn't believe they could be so objectionable.   They advised they couldn't take public transport to work as they lived too far away.  They couldn't rent a local garage as none were available. I simply said that's their issue not mine. It was infuriating that this person had such misplaced entitlement.  However I decided to humour them and show them the title deeds.   They couldn't respond.  Although at this point they alleged some guy in a city up north - whose name they couldn't remember - gave permission!!    They then asked if they could buy the garages and land!! Yet can't afford to park on a meter !! They seemed to back down and agree to now park elsewhere.  I hope so. 
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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

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UKPC 2x windscreen PNC's claimform - - forgot permit - appealed - res parking my own space - East Croft House, 86 Northolt Road, South Harrow, HA2 0ES - *** Claim Dismissed ***


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I don't quite know how they've made the balance out to be £599, but anyway ...

Ho!  Ho!  Ho!  If their case for £600 is so good, why are they prepared to accept £200?  I think we can work that one out.

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Just a quick message that I have my small claims court case later today at 2pm. Although the court has already emailed to say it will be a "floating case" so who knows at what time they will see me.

I know one of my friends who went last year and he said that the judge hadn't even read his witness statement and he subsequently lost his case so that worries me a little. Not sure what else I can really do to prepare asides from quote the supremacy of contract from my witness statement. 

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Morning, it's a floating case because its a parking claim if i'm being honest and the courts don't really like them.

The judge should have read your WS by the time you get in, but even if they havent, when you get the opportunity to speak you can go through your WS yourself.

You can expect that the Judge will likely ask questions of the claimant's counsel but he may ask some questions for you.

Theres nothing else you need to do prepare and I wish you the best.

If you have any questions between now and 2pm feel free to post them here.

The only thing I'd say - Small claims are relaxed, your a LIP. 

The Claimant will likely end up being represented by an LPC advocate so nothing to worry about there - they're very nice people

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Thanks for the message jk2054

 

I have just been drafting what I want to say and I think its best to focus purely on the supremacy of contract. The reason being that I dont want the judge to start focusing on other parts of my witness statement when surely just the supremacy of contract section alone should be enough to get this dismissed. 

 

The crux of my defense revolves around the principle of Supremacy of Contract. When I purchased my flat in December 2016, the contract explicitly included ownership of parking spot 112, as delineated in the lease documentation provided in Exhibit 1. This documentation unequivocally establishes my right to use and occupy this parking space.

Furthermore, the subsequent exhibits, particularly Exhibit 3, clearly depict the marked boundaries of parking spot 112, corroborating my ownership as stated in the lease agreement. Additionally, the official register of title, presented in Exhibit 4, reinforces this ownership claim.

Moreover, I draw the court's attention to relevant legal precedents, such as Pace v Mr N and Link Parking v Ms P, which demonstrate that parking companies cannot override a tenant's right to park on designated property. These cases serve as persuasive authorities supporting my argument regarding the Supremacy of Contract in residential parking disputes.

It is my contention that the absence of any contractual obligation to display a permit for parking spot 112 absolves me of any liability in this matter. The claimant's failure to acknowledge my ownership rights in their witness statement further underscores the weakness of their case.

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Hi All

Just an update that the case was heard today and thankfully the case was dismissed. As many had told me, DCB legal sent an advocate who like myself was also there 30 mins beforehand. He wanted to double check a few things with me beforehand that I had put in my witness statement and then told me that he agrees that my lease forms the supremacy of contract and that he will let the judge also know this once we enter. 

He stuck to his word and led with this and the judge asked if I had anything to add and I just reiterated the supremacy of contract points from my witness statement. The judge then dismissed the case and the whole thing was over in 10 mins.

I just want to end by thanking everyone that has helped. I owe more than thanks and this forum and the main contributers are incredible. I will make a donation once I have secured a new role which is my main focus at the moment. Not having to find nearly £600 to pay for this claim is also a massive relief. 

 

Thank you all. 

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Well done! :D  And thank you for letting us know.

Thank you also for the donation which is much appreciated. Thanks to people like you we can continue to help people with the same problem as you. Good luck with the new role, I hope it goes well.

I'll amend your thread title to show the result.

HB

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  • honeybee13 changed the title to UKPC 2x windscreen PNC's claimform - - forgot permit - appealed - res parking my own space - East Croft House, 86 Northolt Road, South Harrow, HA2 0ES - ** CASE DISMISSED **

Well done on your victory!  👏

I also have to say well done to the other side's advocate for being honest with the court.

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LFI is spot on.

In fact you could sue UKPC for breach of GDPR, as UKPC knew full well right from the start that their case was hopeless.  They should never have asked for your details from the DVLA.

Take some time to think if that is a road you want to go down.

 

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