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    • Please see my witness statement below.  Please let me know what modifications I need to apply.  I haven't included anything related to "administrative charge while paying by credit or debit card" as I wasn't sure if I should include since sign says "it may apply"   Background  1.1 Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of November 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.    Contract  2.1 No Locus Standi, I do not believe a contract exists with the landowner that gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” From PoFA (Protection of Freedoms Act) 2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-  (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or  (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44  For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.    Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed  3.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.  3.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.  3.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.  3.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.    Unfair PCN  4.1         As stipulated in Exhibit 1 (Pages 7-13) sent by DCB Legal following the defendant’s CPR request the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows £60.00 parking charge notice and will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue. The defendant puts it to the claimant a request for strict proof when the signage changed to show £100.00 parking charge as the evidence provided by DCB Legal stipulated £60.00 parking charge was indeed the parking charge at the time defendant parked and included in Exhibit 1   4.3        The Claimant did not respect PAPLOC   4.4        It is also unfair to delay litigation for so long and claim nearly four years' interest.    No Keeper Liability  5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.  5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.    5.3        The claimant did not mention parking period instead only mentioned time 20:25 which is not sufficient to qualify as a parking period.   Protection of Freedoms Act 2012  The notice must -  (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;      No Breach of Contract  6.1      No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY.  6.2        The wording “Electric Bay Abuse” is not listed on their signs nor there is any mention on the contract of any electric charging points at all let alone who can park there or use them.    Double Recovery  7.1        As well as the original £100 parking charge and £50 allowed court/legal costs, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  7.2        PoFA Schedule 4, paragraph 4(5) states that “the maximum sum which may be recovered from the keeper is the amount specified in the notice to keeper”. Which in this case is £100.  7.3        The Parking (Code of Practice) Act 2019 is also quite clear that the maximum amount recoverable is £100.  Government ministers and government web pages explaining the Act refer to extra charges as "a rip off".  7.4        Unless the Claimant can clearly demonstrate how these alleged additional costs have been incurred this would appear to be an attempt at double recovery.  7.5        Previous parking charge cases have found that the parking charge itself is at a level to include the costs of recovery i.e. Parking Eye Ltd vs Beavis (2015) UKSC 67 which is the authority for recovery of the parking charge itself and no more, since the sum £85 was held to already incorporate the costs of an automated private parking business model and the Supreme Court Judges held that a parking firm not in possession cannot plead any part of their case in damages. It is indisputable that an alleged “parking charge” penalty is a sum which the Supreme Court found is already inflated to more than comfortably cover all costs. The case provides a finding of fact by way of precedent, that the £85 (or up to a Trade Body ceiling of £100 depending on the parking firm) covers the costs of all the letters. Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court V Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practise continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (...) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6        In Claim numbers F0DP806M and F0DP201T, Britannia vs Crosby the courts went further in a landmark judgement in November 2019 which followed several parking charge claims being struck out in the area overseen by His Honour Judge Iain Hamilton-Douglas Hughes GC, the Designated Civil Judge for Dorset, Hampshire, Isle of Wight & Wiltshire. District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgement or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating “It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverable under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgement in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for a addi8onal sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998.  7.7        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.  7.8        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).  7.9        The Defendant is of the view that the Claimant knew, or should have known, that to claim in excess of £100 for a parking charge on private lands is disallowed under the CPRs, the Beavis case, the PoFA AND THE CRA 2015, and that relief from sanctions should be refused.    In Conclusion  8.1        I believe the Claimant has got use to intimidation tactics and has got greedy. I believe the truth of the manor is the Claimant has used bullying tactics successfully for too long and is therefore assured that innocent drivers will fall into the trap of paying rather than going through the hours it takes to defend themselves. In the process, wasting the time of the Court, the time of the Defendant and everyone else who has advised the Defendant, out of sheer decency to help have a fair hearing and see justice delivered.  8.2        I am still in disbelief that I am being heard in this court, defending myself nearly 4 years after receiving a charge through my door. I have had to spend weeks’ worth of my life studying the letter of the law in order to defend myself from this ridiculous attempt at a swindle.  8.3        I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. 
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Hi. I've been awarded enhanced rate and lower rate mobility for 7 years now.

7 years ago I had to go to tribunal in court.

I had a renewal application in June or July, CAB made a change on my mobility.

I have been invited to a assessment I don't have a date yet, I have little medical evidence at the moment due to diagnosis so I'm relying on the assessment really.

If after the assessment they decide to only give me my normal allowance. If I put in for a mandatory reconsider am I at risk of loosing or money stopping?

 

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Try not to waste your energy and time on something that hasn't happened.

Cross that bridge when you come to it.

 

Did they award you PIP for seven years?

 

Get all the evidence you can together, including the form you filled in 7 years ago, refresh your memory, and then if your circumstances have deteriorated you will be able to say so.

 

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Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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Hi.

It wasn't awarded for 7 years, I usually get a renewal every two years.

Usually its quite smooth the previous times i just put no change to all questions,

ive had an assessment 2 times,

2020 didnt happen because the virus, think this time around I'm nervous because of a change, I don't want to end up back in a tribunal.

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As advised follow the process PIP want you to follow, when they contact you about reassessment. 

If you are concerned about having to appeal at Tribunal, then go to Citizens Advice or other local disabilities advice service when you get the assessment form sent to you.   These advice services have a PIP guidebook, so they know how to complete the assessment forms.

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Well the time has now come.

I have a assessment in a couple of days, I've tried to get a advocate to help with the assessment but no luck,

I have a bundle of paperwork I just can't mentally take on the challenge of sorting out all my medical evidence it was sent from my gp by email and there is over 500 pages,

I haven't got a clue how to do the assessment I normally have a support worker but I have moved into a different area that doesn't offer this support, it's a dreaded night mare

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I did go to my local cab but they wasn't very helpful in helping me, I have had help looking for a advocate but I can't afford to have one, I see a mental health worker every two weeks for personality disorder I'm unsure if they will help

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I have been told to contact my local mp office, would this help?

Could anyone help me understand the process of this properly, so I am awarded pip until September next year,

I have my assessment in a couple of days, I don't think they will ....but if I get 0 points say in my assessment what is the process of that .... will my money stop instantly, will it continue until a mandatory reconsideration has gone through?

I just can't process the way this works

I Don't get it? 

until I can get medical evidence sorted, I don't have the energy to go to tribunal it's already 

mentally overwhelming for me

Can anyone explain the process of this.

 

Thank you

 

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Your MP won't be able to do anything at this stage.

Your mental health worker is best person to contact.

The charity Mind are also very good and they can explain what happens with benefits after the outcome of assessments.

I am not 100% sure whether benefit payments are stopped if the assessment outcome does not continue your PIP and you submit MR within one month of the outcome decision. Probably best to speak to Mind about this.

https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/local-minds/

 

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No you don't send in now.  The person who completed the assessment may have already submitted their report to DWP.

You appear to be presuming that your PIP award will change, when it may remain as it now.

If the assessment decision is not as you want it to be, then of course you can submit any information for a Mandatory Reconsideration.

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Why do you think the current medications list is relevant to PIP award ?

If you think it is relevant, contact PIP and advise them.

I am not sure it is relevant, unless the medications you are currently on have side effects which are explained in Doctors information you have also available to be provided.

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@unclebulgaria67

I told the assessment what medication I was on, I am on anti psychotic medication called aripirazole that cause alot of side effects 

I also notified them of a lung condition what effects my day to day life I have had it for 3 years and just seems to progress so I have notified them because it effects my mobility 

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Just a update on this one

I have had my assessment now and received a text today saying that they have made their decision and I should hear back from them in the next two weeks, really nervous about this and feel they are going to reject my claim, it all seems to have happened so fast!

 

@unclebulgaria67 you seem the best person to ask as you seem very knowledgeable with uc, I've recently seen on my tiktok that people have been receiving uc with no benefit cap.

So we have a joint universal claim with two child.

previously to this my partner was working living alone and I received esa, sdp and pip living alone.

I continued to claim esa and lost sdp when we moved in together, my partner stopped working due to covid and claimed uc so this had to be a joint claim for me and her but again I continue to claim esa, however we have a large deduction 

1. For my fortnightly esa

2. My partners carers allowance

We also have two children on our joint uc claim, one of which is in receipt of DLA middle rate daily living component and also the disabled child component on uc.

I receive the higher support group component on uc also.

Should we be deducted for the esa and carers allowance?

I'm not up on how this systems works because I've learned that if we have a child with dla then we should not have any benefit cap? 

Really sorry if I have asked this question before my memory is not the best.

 

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as far as i remember DLA/PIP are not inc on any total income toward any benefit caps whomever in the household gets them. they are included and listed but dont count as part of the cap total.

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Yes ESA and Carers Allowance amounts you receive separately are deducted from Universal Credit awards, because they count as benefit income. As dx says PIP/DLA do not affect UC award directly.

You should not have benefit cap applied, as noted on Gov.uk website.

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There is a limit on the total amount of benefit that most people aged 16 to under State Pension age can get - benefits affected, benefit cap amount.

 

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Thanks, everyone! I think the benefit cap applies to individuals who are employed. For instance, if my partner starts working, it shouldn't affect our uc claim because there's no cap imposed on it due to our daughters DLA, Right?

 

Apologies for being a bit slow at grasping this concept.

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as long as your daughter is under 18 then someone being on dla/pip just means that income is not inc in the total and makes the household exempt from it should they hit it or exceed it.

sorry got confused too.

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You also mention support group presumably LCWRA on UC claim so that gives exception from benefit cap. The link above notes the exemption.

"get Universal Credit because of a disability or health condition that stops you from working (this is called ‘limited capability for work and work-related activity’)"

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Thanks guys this is all sorted now, it went smoothly, had a assessment over the phone, within a week they awarded me the same rate so I guess I panicked over nothing :)

 

Merry Christmas and a happy new year to you all 

 

P.s sorry it's late!

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