Should we trust Sunak or the next PM to fix the Country's problems? (title revised 24/10/22)

[tobyjugg2]

Well, at least shes saying shes standing down

 

Who is Natalie Elphicke - and why did she defect from Tories to Labour?

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The Dover MP becomes the third Conservative to defect to the opposition

 at next ge

[tobyjugg2]

Well, who would have thought that UK politics could have sunk any lower than johnson V corbyn, but its so bad that Cameron is our shining light and outstanding statesman

David Cameron: west has not learned lesson of Ukraine and must get tougher | David Cameron | The Guardian

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Foreign secretary will say too few states have stepped up to spend on defence, take on Iranian proxies or champion women’s rights

 

Really shows how far our nation has fallen since Camerons 'Fox paws referendum

- shame labours potential rock stars are shadowed by starmer .. who clearly needs to follow Corbyn and johnson the liar into a the annals of a history page that lists how NOT to do it

 

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[tobyjugg2]

As the figures supposedly behind the poops flagship, international law breaking policy are shown to be .. fantasy

"the department said the figures were “estimates” based on an “operational snapshot collected by the French authorities”, which had not been verified and “likely to be subject to a relatively high degree of measurement error”."

 

Home Office stops publishing blocked small boat crossings after less than a week

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The department had previously admitted the figures were 'unverified' and likely to be erroneous

 

[tobyjugg2]

Rwanda

 

US blames Rwanda for deadly camp strike amidst UK's designation of Rwanda as a safe country for refugees - AOAV

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The bombing of the Shabindu displacement camp in Goma, attributed to the Rwandan army and M23 rebels, highlights serious concerns...

 

 

Tories on supplying arms to Israel

"David Cameron has said the UK will not be following the US in withholding arms sales to Israel, saying the positions are not comparable since the UK is not a large state to state arms supplier to Israel."

..  barely half a billion quids worth while we've been in power

Foreign secretary also says UK does not support large-scale invasion of Rafah unless Israel presents plan to protect civilians .. but wont do owt if they dont

David Cameron says UK will not follow US in withholding arms sales to Israel | Israel-Gaza war | The Guardian

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Foreign secretary also says UK does not support large-scale invasion of Rafah unless Israel presents plan to protect civilians

 

Who is arming Israel? UK Exports to Israel   - AOAV

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This post examines UK Exports to Israel

Just a moment...

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[tobyjugg2]

I dont always agree with Pollys' opinions, but this I largely do - apart from one bit ..

- i do see Sue grays hand in this ..

Keir Starmer should be embracing the Tories’ disgruntled voters – not their turncoat MPs

Keir Starmer should be embracing the Tories’ disgruntled voters – not their turncoat MPs | Polly Toynbee | The Guardian

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After Natalie Elphicke’s welcome, would Labour turn any Tory dregs away? This is beneath the dignity of a party on the verge of power...

 

[theoldrouge]

Perhaps you would care to read this and reflect on your continuing comparison of Israel to Nazi Germany Jugg 
 

ALEX BRUMMER: How grotesque of pro-Palestine protesters to besmirch Auschwitz, the place where my grandparents died

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As the son of a refugee from the horrors of the Holocaust, I can feel nothing but contempt for the ignorance, gross...

My elderly aunt Sussie and cousin Sheindy had been teenagers at Auschwitz and Belsen but survived and are alive to this day. What they will make of the protesters who waved flags, heckled and chanted as Israelis took part in the March Of The Living – the annual walk from Auschwitz to Birkenau – I cannot imagine.

The images now circulating of the protesters are indescribably disturbing. They can only bring back memories of those final moments Sheindy shared with my grandparents when my grandmother Fanya squeezed her hand and told her to lie about her age to avoid the gas chambers. Claiming she was older, and could work, meant that Sheindy lived, not died. The outrage perpetrated by Hamas on October 7 has brought back the most terrifying memories for these two women – memories of pillage, mutilation and starvation.

The Holocaust, or Shoah to use the Hebrew word, was the deliberate, industrial-scale killing of Jews.  It is bad enough that pro-Palestinian and pro-Hamas sympathisers have chosen to steal the language of the Holocaust.  Any comparison between Israel's retaliation and the monstrous genocide of the 1940s is odious and anti-Semitic

[tobyjugg2]

another high spot from the locals

Ten candidates managed to avoid the indignity of losing to Count Binface in London - but Nick Scanlon of Britain First was not one of them.

 

Oh dear! Britain First in meltdown after LOSING to Count Binface

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Ten candidates managed to avoid the indignity of losing to Count Binface in London - but Nick Scanlon of Britain First was not one of...

 

[tobyjugg2]

and another low spot for investment in Brexit UK (I dont give a monkeys about the bank)

Coutts prepares to de-bank Britain

At an event this week the bank’s chief investment officer Fahad Kamal said: “Currently, about 20 per cent of a standard balanced portfolio here is UK stocks, which is something of an anachronism.

“It would be closer to three per cent or four per cent if it were more commensurate with the proportion of UK stocks in global stock markets. So this is a recalibration.

The 332-year-old lender, which has King Charles as a client and, until recently, former UKIP leader Nigel Farage, will transfer £2 billion from British funds into overseas investments, reinforcing the “inexorable trend of outflows from the UK”, Charles Hall of investment bank Peel Hunt said.

Coutts prepares to de-bank Britain

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"This is a large transfer of assets from the UK to global funds, which reinforces the inexorable trend of outflows from the UK."

 

[tobyjugg2]

breaking news

More Tory MPs ‘pondering defecting’

'bl**dy hell, if they'll have her I should be a shoe in. I dont stand a chance as a Tory, but I might if I'm the labour candidate'

.. is rumored to be heard again and again at the Torys favorite  subsidised bars of Westminster.

 

More Tory MPs ‘pondering defecting’ as Natalie Elphicke ‘sorry’ - live

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Labour frontbencher says other Conservatives wrestling with their futures and calls grow for Diane Abbott to be let back into party

"Wes Streeting insisted his party would not take just any Tory MP" .. as he looked nervously looked over his shoulder

 

We may be looking forward to a vote of no confidence in the Guv by the newly majority labour party as early as next week has allegedly been overheard

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[honeybee13]

I thought the LibDems were going to table a motion of no confidence? I haven't heard anything about it for a couple of days.

[tobyjugg2]

they waiting for some more defections to get the majority ..

[unclebulgaria67]

Think with a no confidence motion to be selected for debate, it has to be supported by a certain number of MP's.  Or it has to be added as an amendment to a finance bill.

I don't think the smaller opposition parties have opposition day debates. . It is just Labour and SNP that have time allocated for them to lead the opposition debates. 

If the above is accurate (not 100% sure as parliamentary rules are complicated) , it is not that easy for Lib Dems to have a confidence motion debated.

 

[tobyjugg2]

Labour Party has increased its poll lead over Prime Minister Rishi Sunak's Conservatives to stand 30 points ahead, according to a YouGov poll for the Times newspaper.

A previous YouGov/Times poll, published on May 2, gave Labour a 26 point lead.

 

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[tobyjugg2]

so Cummings is planning his own party ... (sic)

and Sunak is still planning a 2p tax 'giveaway before the GE  - while undoubtedly taking 2/3/4 times that amount with his other hand

which perhaps makes a sept/oct GE most likely - after the announcement but before people realise its still left everyone but the richest worse off ..

Then it'll be off to sunny silicone valley with his wife for sunak eh?

[honeybee13]

I wonder how many people will go with Cummings and the Upstarts?

Even funnier, Matt Goodwin has announced he's starting a new party as well.

[tobyjugg2]

Dont think he'll get the student votes

Might get some of the 'not student right wing demonstrators' votes though

[tobyjugg2]

cummings - odd john with his brains kicked out

[tobyjugg2]

Nails it

 

[tobyjugg2]

Is elphicke still with labour or has she jumped into the frankly far more apt 'reformatory yet?

Sure that her move is just intended to destabilise Sunack for the poopy right

 

I hear rumors Boris and Doris have tested the water through proxies - not sure if its true - and they probably happy to (are?) chance-it with all/any

Edited May 11 by tobyjugg2

[honeybee13]

Rwandans claim asylum in Oz.

Rwandans arrive in Australia after perilous journey to claim asylum | Immigration and asylum | The Guardian

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Hunters reportedly find five Rwandan men in mangroves on Saibai Island, a known crocodile habitat

 

[tobyjugg2]

Sunak says Starmer  embracing just one of his parties ERG right shows that Starmer has no principles

.. err how many ERG does that leave Sunak not only embracing - but mollifying - and what does that say of Sunaks principals?

 

- Sunak adds he would happily breach International law and UK international agreements 'every time'

- and claims that 14 years of Tory rule and years of majority rule haven't caused the UKs problems ...

 

I'd laugh if it wasn't so typical of the poops and their figureheads

 

[tobyjugg2]

and, after 14 years of Tory rule:

Sunak says next election will be choice 'between future and past'

 

So lets remember the last 14 years just past and look forward to a future free from right wing, incompetent, corrupt, self serving, lying poopulist free loading ****

 

 

[unclebulgaria67]

Small boat crossing numbers in last 7 days much more than the planned number to be sent to Rwanda.

Small boat arrivals – last 7 days - GOV.UK

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These migrants obviously believe that being sent to Rwanda is not a consideration when they are aware of other migrants having died making the English channel crossing.

If Rwanda was going to receive thousands of migrants, then it probably would be a deterrent to some. But the threat of sending 300 migrants to Rwanda is just not going to make any difference.

[tobyjugg2]

Yes, there does seem to be a notable correlation between Sunak and the ERG showing what incompetent prats they are with the Internationally unlawful traffic to Rwanda policy and increases in boat crossing and illegal migration - doesn't there?

Shame they cant come up with something both legal and competent to address perhaps their main Brexit headline ... failures

Edited May 14 by tobyjugg2

[honeybee13]

The Windsor agreement seems to have made the asylum seeker situation more complicated. Good explanation by Gary Gibbon in this video.