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Hi,

I used my dads badge to park in Birmingham today and I shouldn’t have because he passed away last year.

I didn’t have money for parking and having two children in the car, I decided to do so for quickness.

I know I shouldn’t have but I did. 


A person from the council came and took the badge and said the council would be in touch as it is classed as fraud.

I’m worried sick. , I am a single mum of three and can barely afford to live as it is (even though I work) and I’m really concerned about what I have done. 


Any advice would be really appreciated! 
 

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poss £1000 fine + any parking offence costs.

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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How would I pay this? Would I have to pay it in one go as I can barely afford to live now and do I have to go to court?

 

I’m a assistant teacher and I can’t believe I have been so stupid! 

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The £1,000 is the maximum for the misuse of a Blue Badge, not necessarily what you would get fined.  Magistrates take into account your ability to pay when deciding the fine. 

 

Sorry to add to the things you need to worry about but as you are a teacher the court will report you to your school or local council if you are convicted and the school could start internal disciplinary proceedings against you.  Check the school's internal staff handbook or similar for when you must disclose any prosecutions against you.

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As the council told you misuse of a Blue Badge is fraud so I'm afraid the council could well decide to prosecute you in a Magistrates court and that would give you a criminal record if convicted.

 

Right now though there's nothing you can do until you hear from council or the police. When you do, come back and update us and we''ll do what we can to advise you (but we are not lawyers and cannot replace advice from a solicitor).

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Some occupations are 'notifiable professions' as well which means the police have to notify your employer.

 

I know if you are a nurse etc. then the police have to let your employer know about the situation. Not sure if you would fall under that umbrella or not.

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I guess you just need to sit tight and see what follows.

 

Its like being flashed by a speed camera, its the wait to see what's going to happen that's the kicker.

 

It does seem to be a common theme that people who fraudulently use travel passes/parking badges etc are seemingly the biggest worriers out there. It would be precisely the fear of dealing with something like this that would stop me doing it in the first place.

 

Good luck with it, at least you won't be doing it again in a hurry (I hope).

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No, wouldn’t do anything like it again! Never did it before!

I had driven around the car park and looked at the tariff and with the two kids fighting in the back of the car.

 

I pulled in the disabled bay, put the badge in took one child out the car and then was going in the boot to get my bag to go and pay for parking when I was stopped!

 

I know it was a silly thing to do looking back but at the time I didn’t think. 

 

Still so stressed about this… I’m hardly sleeping and can’t stop thinking about it! If anyone has more info on what actually happens I’d be most grateful! Thank you 

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calm down.

it's not like robbing the crown jewels or anything.

you are low hanging fruit really.

 

mother 2 kids etc etc .

 

you won't be on the top of their list to do anything.

the council guy was probably a jobsworth type.

 

misuse is a serious problem, but as you've said here already, it's not like you are a serial offender.

 

you might not even hear anything.

 

dx

 

 

 

 

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Did he take the badge?

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Well the possibility is there that might be the end of it.

 

i will also guess you clearly stated this was your only use, which was somewhat out of frustration of the situation you found yourself in and not something premeditated?  

 

DX

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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To be quite honest the guy didn’t give me a chance in edge ways to speak.

 

As soon as I got out the car he approached me and asked to see the badge. My son got out the car too as I was taking him to the pay machine to stop the arguments with my other son.

 

I passed him the badge and typed him the details from there.

He asked why I had used it and I tried to explain. 


He then took photos and said I would be prosecuted and read my rights to. 

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if he read you your rights

a part of that is an invitation to state your case if you wish..

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I said I hadn’t done anything like this before but he kept going on about how I’d misused it and how it was fraud and I would be prosecuted!

 

I explained that I was sorry and under a full understanding that I wouldn’t do anything like it again.

 

He asked if I had any questions and I asked what happened next, he told me I’d hear off the council and be prosecuted. 


It’s honestly really worried me!

 

Im hardly sleeping and it is on my mind constantly! 

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god stop worrying .

seems to me you have very little to worry about.

even if if if the worst does happen it will be a punitive small fine i expect.

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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sure

go enjoy your life

nothing at all may happen.

 

dx

 

 

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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