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    • When you get chance please upload a redacted copy of the agreement and also this termination notice included within the LBC.
    • Hope there is someone who can have a look at this please? 🤞Have to hand it in in like half an hour... THanks!   INTRODUCTION 1.      As a defendant in this case I make this Witness Statement to oppose the claimant application dated 19.09.23 to lift the stay on proceedings, for the defence to be struck out, for the Summary Judgment on the whole claim and the cost order to be made against me, the defendant in view of my Defence submitted to the County Court Business Centre in Northampton on 22 June 2019. 2.      The Claimant confirms that this claim issued through Northampton County Court Business Centre remained stayed since. 3.      Attached is a witness statement and a bundle of documents marked ‘LON2’. BACKGROUND 4.      The defendant confirms she entered into a contract with the Student Loan Company (SLC) under Loan Number ………….. on 28 November 1996. The original loan amount was £2035.00 with APR rate of 2.7%. 5.      The loan was regulated by SLC and during the time SLC was in charge of the account the defendant successfully deferred every year as she was always under the earning threshold. 6.      The defendant acknowledges receiving a copy of a loan agreement enclosed as pages [1 to 2] of ‘LON1’. NOTICE OF ASSIGNMENT 7.      As per her defence, the claimant acknowledges receiving Notice of Assignment when the loan was moved over from SLC to Claimant on 22.11.2013. 8.      The Student Loan agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. 9.      As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights. This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information). The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 2014 REMEDIATION 10.  Defendant received a remediation pack from the Claimant on 28th August 2014 named Remedy of Account enclosed on pages [1-34] of ‘LON2’.  The cover letter explained that there was an issue under the Consumer Credit Act 1974 that resulted in Defendant’s balance being higher than it should have been so the reduction of £441.47 was applied to the account. 11.  The enclosed replacement documents in the pack showed correct situation compared to the originals with the erroneous Sums of Arrears. 12.   The defendant found this Remediation pack confusing and worrying that CCA 1974 was breached on Defendant’s account, yet the Claimant brushed it off with vague explanation and an apology. 13.  This issue puts shade on the Claimant’s requirement to prove the allegation that the money is owed as claimed under the Civil Procedure Rule 16.5 (4), as the Defendant does not admit the allegation. DEFERMENTS 14.  The defendant was granted deferrals for all the years they were with the SLC and continued to be granted deferments by the Claimant when they took over the loan as the claimant was under the earning threshold at all pertinent times. 15.  Defendant was sent and completed deferment forms for 20 years, between 1996 – 2016 without fail and no payments were ever due. 16.  Defendant had not received the 2017 deferment forms 8 weeks before the due date or the subsequent reminder that is customarily sent. 17.  Defendant had not been reminded by email about the deferment. 18.  When the Claimant noticed the Defendant’s deferment form was missing and this was unusual considering they have been at the same address for more than a decade and are on the electoral register, the Claimant did not make an attempt to call or email the defendant to communicate with them about the situation. 19.  The Claimant therefore did not treat the Defendant fairly. CCA REMEDIATON 2018 20.  As mentioned in Defendant’s Defence and not responded to in the Claimant’s Witness statement; the next communication from the Claimant that the Defendant received was the Remedy of Account pack on 1st September 2018 containing missing statutory notices that they are required to send within the prescribed timescales containing correct information to inform the client about their account as presented in pages [35-69] of ‘LON2’ 21.  Due to a system error between 2016-2018 the Claimant did not comply with this requirement and the correct statutory notices were not sent. 22.  This system error coincided with the dates the deferment forms were not received by the Defendant. 23.  The pack included annual statements some of which mentioned Sums of Arrears, much like the ones SLC used to send the Defendant in error – which was corrected by Claimant in 2014 as mentioned in points 9-12. The defendant was confused and googled the Remediation issue and found a - nothing to worry about – type of explanation on the Claimant’s website as it seems many accounts were affected. 24.  Claimant’s website stated: “What is remediation? During ongoing quality checks/reviews of our accounts, we identified an issue relating to communications that we are required to send customers as prescribed by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 (as amended) (CCA). Additionally, our review identified issues with the data on some of our customers’ accounts. Having reviewed all accounts for issues, along with rectifying the issues identified above, we are now in a position to resume our normal processes. We have begun writing to our customers who have had arrears on their loan(s) since 9 December 2015 (when Erudio took over the day to day management of the loans from the Capita Group). This is to ensure they have had all the required CCA notifications and their account data is accurate. This will involve sending the corrected documentation to affected customers and corrections to the data on customers’ accounts. If your account has been affected, you will receive this documentation where applicable. Any interest incurred since these issues arose will be deducted from your account balances. What does it mean for me? You don’t need to do anything. If you have been affected by any of these issues, you will receive a letter from us outlining what we have done to fix it. We will provide you with corrected regulatory letters for the period affected by these issues and inform you about any adjustments to your account balance or payment as a result of the removal of interest added to your account during that period.” 25.  The defendant concluded this error must be also why the deferment forms were not sent and trusted that the Claimant would fix the error and send the documents with an apology, after all, if there was a problem, the Claimant would have called or emailed to let the Defendant know. 26.  The Claimant was in breach of the CCA 1974 rules in letting the Defendant know about the arrears on the account, and subsequent actions taken were unenforceable as this was the Claimant’s error. LETTER OF CLAIM AND COURT DEFENCE 27.  However, Defendant was served with a Letter of Claim which was a shock. She had never been to court before and did not think she had a choice but go to court as the other option was to succumb to unreasonable offer by Dryden’s Fairfax lawyers representing the Claimant. 28.  Defendant therefore submitted defence to court. 29.  The Claimant’s witness statement has not addressed the CCA 1974 breach that was stated in point 15 or 16 of the Defendant’s defence. ADMINISTRATIVE STAY OF PROCEEDINGS July 2019 – May 2024 30.  As the Claimant’s Witness Statement reads, during the almost 5 year administrative stay, the Defendant was contacted by Drydens Fairfax layers representing the Claimant with offers to settle the ‘debt’, however the Defendant found the letters had a violent undertone, each one threatening with a CCJ unless the Defendant complied with demands. It was therefore unwise  to enter into any kind of relationship with such bullies who were well aware of the Defendant’s defence and that their client made serious mistakes and a breached CCA 1974 rules. 31.  As a result of these continual threats but the case still on administrative stay the Defendant experienced continual nightmares and stress related gut problems. She has seen the gut specialist who advised her the mind body connection and trauma can be connected with her type of gut issues and the defendant’s GP followed by referring her to trauma psychotherapy. 32.  On 8th of June 2021 the Claimant sent a letter with the statutory documentation they failed to send the Defendant even though her postal address had not changed. Again this was another CCA 1974 breach. 33.  On 16th December 2021 the Claimant sent another letter apologising for and error made in charging the Solicitor’s fees incorrectly, continuing with a series of blunders.    
    • I'm trying to unravel this – but I get the impression that there was no contract between you and EVRi and that you didn't even choose them but instead you decided use some third party parcel broker in the USA which organised the delivery. Is this correct? EVRi came into the picture because they would then eventually selected for part of the journey although you had no knowledge that it might be them and I suppose it didn't really matter as long as the item got to you. Secondly, I really don't understand the journey which this item made. You bought the item from somebody in the USA. They then were meant to dispatch it to you to another address in the USA but for some reason or other it came to the UK and then into the hands of EVRi at which point it was lost or stolen. More confusion here because you now tell us that EVRi marked it as being out for delivery but it was never delivered. This suggests that it was going to be delivered to a UK address but earlier on you said that it was going to be delivered to USA address. I think you need to look at the story. Maybe show it to a friend of yours who is not particularly where the details and ask them if they can make head or tail of it and then come back to us with clarification so that we fully understand. Also, I think we'd like to know what the item is, how was it declared, what was the value which was declared. You said it was a valuable item because it was rare and collectable. I gather from this that it is non-fungible. We need to understand more about this. Was an insurance policy purchased to cover it during the delivery process. I understand that this rare and collectable item be valued at £200. Have evidence this value. This could become very important. Also you have given is no idea when this happened. We need to understand the full timescale. There are a number of possibilities here including the possibility of the contract action against EVRi on the basis of your third party rights or an action for negligence but we need to know far more and we need to get a story that makes sense.   Finally, I understand that you have sent the letter of claim. What did it say? How much time did you give them? What did you expect to happen as a result of the letter of claim? Whatever the answers to those questions might be, clearly you had no idea how to proceed after having sent such a letter. A letter of claim is meant to be a serious threat of some legal action if some condition which you have stipulated is not complied with. You set a deadline for compliance and at the end of that deadline you issue the court action. Clearly you are not in a position to do that so your letter of claim is a bluff and undermines your credibility and it will find its way into the EVRi wastepaper basket – if it's not there already.  
    • Good morning. I just wanted to check something please. The other side have moved slightly and negotiated a full and final offer price to end this matter. I am happy with this. However, I want to make sure this is the end of the matter and am emailing the following over to them prior to payment. Is this enough to ensure they can come back for nothing else? Thanks -------------------------------------------------- Dear Sir.   With regards your last email below.   I am pleased to agree to the full and final settlement figure given below.   Can you confirm this payment will be in full and final payment with no further claim to be brought against me in this matter?   Best regards
    • 100% sure I didn't receive it, that why my first post is with the £100 letter.
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I've been with T-Mobile since about 2002, and have been a good customer since then, paid on time etc.

 

My bills have been going to my old address, and all I get at my new address are reminders to pay. This month I received a threat of line suspension letter if I don't pay and overdue amount of £111! My bills are rarely over £40 per month, and I don't even get the bloody bills themselves!!! :-x Apparently this is made up of WAP usage, which I don't use, but has apparently come from my phone. So someone has used it. Of course, they won't remove the charges.

 

In addition to this, in the last three months, the following have occured:

1) I have asked for my priceplan to be changed twice. This has never happened, and they funnily enough don't have any record of me calling to ask this.

2) I asked for my billing date to be changed for my new job. Never happened.

3) I don't get any signal at home. The phone does make an attractive paperweight however.

4) They charge me £3 to not use DD. Grrrr....

 

Anyway, I want out of my contract, because I've had enough of their nonsense, but they won't cancel it until I pay the £111, which I dispute.

 

What can I do to get rid of these t055ers??

 

Thanks

 

Alex

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please be careful here, this is very similar to the circumstances I had with vodafone. I made similar arguments to them at them time - shouldn't pay, won't pay etc.

 

no then - on the basis that mobile phone companies are not regulated by Consumer Credit Act, they can put a 'default' on your credit file with hardly any hurdles. If I could have my time again, I would have just paid it - sticks in my throat I know but the impact of the vodafone default has cost me ten times the original disputed amount not to mention time/energy etc.

 

my advice, if you can pay it - do.

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well there's the issue -

 

if you don't pay, they will default you.

If you can show that they have charged you for a service you haven't used e.g. WAP then maybe? but none of the others appear to be a breach of contract, crap customer service yes, breach of contract no!

 

it's a big risk though, removal of defaults without recourse to the Consumer Credit Act is a big ask.

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OK. Here is what I sent them:

 

I was a happy customer of T-Mobile, and now I wish to leave because you have not kept to your side of the contract, for the following reasons:

1) I have asked for my priceplan to be changed twice to the Relax 25 PricePlan, at the time of renewing my contract and after. This has not happened, and you have no record of me requesting this. This has impacted on me financially.

2) I asked for my billing date to be changed, so my payments were due at the end of the month, in October. Not done.

3) I have no signal at my current property.

4) I was never informed to reinstate my Direct Debit or lose my half-price line rental. Again this has impacted me financially.

5) A recent bill for over £111 included mobile internet. I categorically state that I do NOT use mobile internet.

I have been a good customer of T-Mobile for over four years, yet the company are unwilling to resolve these issues with me.

 

And now their wonderful reply...

 

Hello spinningfish

Thanks for your email about leaving T-Mobile.

I'm sorry to hear that you want to leave because you feel that we haven't actioned your requests.

I realise that this is important to you and I'm pleased you've emailed me to help.

I tried to call you about this today but you were unavailable.

You advised in your email that you asked to change your price plan to Relax 25, at the time of renewing your contract and after.

I've checked your account today, and I can see that you did ask for your price plan to be changed to Relax 25 on 27 July 2006. However, as we'd just changed your bill cycle date, you were advised that we were unable to change your price plan at the same time.

You were advised to call us again to change your price plan, however there are no notes on you account to advise that you called us again to do this. This is why your price plan hasn't been changed.

You mentioned in your email that you have no signal at your current property, I can see from checking your account that you've recently moved address.

I've checked the post code in this area and it does show that indoor coverage in this area is poor. However outdoor coverage is good, so you'll still be able to use your phone outdoors.

I'm sorry if you weren't advised that you'd need to reinstate your direct debit to receive your employee discount. I can understand that the upset this has caused.

When your employee discount was added, you should have been advised that you always need to have a direct debit set up to receive this discount, as this is part of the terms and conditions of employee call .

We did send you a text message to let you know that that you had 28 days to set up your direct debit, otherwise you'd loose your discount.

Because you didn't call us to set up your direct debit, your discount was removed from your account.

You also advised that you received a bill for £111 (including VAT), this bill included mobile internet charges which you advised you don't use.

I've checked this with our technical team for you today and they've confirmed that you phone has accessed these websites. You phones IMEI number has shown up as accessing these sites, and therefore it's impossible for you to have been charged for something you haven't used.

If these sites haven't been accessed by you, then it may be possible that someone else has used your phone to access this information at your expense.

As you account is in collections at the moment, I'm afraid that I'm unable to process a cancellation on your account.

You'll need to pay your outstanding balance of £169.68 (including VAT), before this can be processed.

As you account hasn't come to an end yet, we'll have to charge you a cancellation fee. This is currently £299.55 (VAT exempt).

This fee goes down the closer you are to the end of your contract, which ends on 4 August 2007. This is because you upgraded on 4 August 2006.

You might want to think about changing your plan for the remainder of your contract. You'll be able to discuss changing your plan with our customer services team. You can call them on 150 from your phone or 0845 412 5000 from a landline (charged at local rates. They're open every day from 7am to 10pm.

If you do decide you still want to leave us you'll need to give us one month's notice. And you'll need to call us to arrange this. You can contact us on the numbers mentioned above, but you'll need to speak to our retention team. They're available every day from 8.30am to 10pm.

 

I realise that this wasn't the answer you were hoping for but I hope I've explained things clearly for you today.

 

Thanks for taking the time to email me, I hope you'll reconsider closing your account.

If you have any further questions, don't hesitate to reply to this email or you may find the help you need by visiting http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/Dispatcher?menuid=faqPage .

Kind regards

 

Lindsay

Customer Services

T-Mobile

I actually moved address in May, if anyone was wondering.

Is there anything I can do to rid myself of these incompetant wretches?

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Thanks for taking the time to email me, I hope you'll reconsider closing your account.

If you have any further questions, don't hesitate to reply to this email or you may find the help you need by visiting http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/Dispatcher?menuid=faqPage .

Kind regards

 

Lindsay

Customer Services

T-Mobile

 

I actually moved address in May, if anyone was wondering.

 

Is there anything I can do to rid myself of these incompetant wretches?

 

as I said in a previous post, this is certainly frustrating but if the bulk of what they have said in thier e-mail is true, then you are merely the victim of unsympathetic customer service and not a berach of contract.

 

If the contract you signed (or agreed to online or over the phone)contained the exit costs (or a formula to calculate these costs) described then I'm afraid they are correct - and they know this and that is why they can afford to give you a £200 (or similar) handset at the start because you will pay far more than that through the life of the contract.

 

sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but in answer to the quoted question above is "yes - pay them"

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Hello again

 

You may have read my other post regarding T-Mobile! Basically, I want to end my contract with them, for one reason or another, and I am happy to pay the early termination fee, as I'm sick to death of them. :mad:

 

I do owe them money from last month's bill, and as such, my line is suspended from making outgoing calls. Because of this, T-Mobile say they cannot cancel my contract, and that I will need to pay both this month and last month's bill before I can give them one month's notice to cancel my contract. In addition to this, I cannot change my priceplan, for that last month, for the same reason. :-|

 

I've looked through their T&C's and cannot find this stipulation anywhere. I've attached the link here: http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/pdf/files/tcs_cvn_52_servupg.pdf

 

Can you guys give me your verdict on how to proceed? :confused:

 

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Mr Fish

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I would of thought they can go ahead and cancel your contract and apply the necessary charge including your outstanding billing amount - i would call and TELL them whats happening, dont accept them saying "Oh but we cant"

 

O2 tried a similar thing with me - i just told them, im cancelling my contract (sent an email so there was written proof) here's my 30 days notice, forward the required amount and i'll pay it!

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DONT WORRY - THE INFO SHALL RETURN ONCE THE CASE IS RESOLVED/WON

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I've been having ongoing issues with T-Mobile, and desperately want to cancel my contract with them. However, I owe them money from last months bill, as I disputed some of the charges on etc, so my account is with there 'collections' department.

 

The long and the short of it is that T-Mobile refuse to cancel my contract until I have settled up the outstanding balance, yet their T&C's make no mention of this stipulation, which I keep telling them. They now say they agree with me re the T&C's, but their system won't allow me to cancel the contract.

 

Just to point out that I AM within my 12 month contract period, and am more than happy to pay the early termination fee.

 

What can I do??

 

I have posted a copy of the relevant section of the the T&C's below:

 

"7 When the Agreement ends

(a) You can cancel this agreement by notifying Customer Services you want

to terminate. If you are cancelling because we have increased a charge

above RPI or we have changed these conditions and that change is of

material detriment to you (see 2©(iii)), your agreement will terminate

immediately. We will refund credit on your prepaid account if before the

increase occurs you have written to us requesting that we disconnect

your SIM, and refund credit on your prepaid account at the time of

disconnection. Otherwise, whether you are within the minimum agreement

period or outside it, your agreement will terminate one calendar month

from receipt of that notice. You will be responsible for all charges including

the monthly charges up to and including the date of termination. You are

free to restore your agreement throughout the notice period"

Also, please find the link to the full T&C's here, in case I have missed anything!!

 

Thanks!!

 

Mr Fish

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I've been having ongoing issues with T-Mobile, and desperately want to cancel my contract with them. However, I owe them money from last months bill, as I disputed some of the charges on etc, so my account is with there 'collections' department.

 

The long and the short of it is that T-Mobile refuse to cancel my contract until I have settled up the outstanding balance, yet their T&C's make no mention of this stipulation, which I keep telling them. They now say they agree with me re the T&C's, but their system won't allow me to cancel the contract.

 

Just to point out that I AM within my 12 month contract period, and am more than happy to pay the early termination fee.

 

What can I do??

 

I have posted a copy of the relevant section of the the T&C's below:

 

"7 When the Agreement ends

(a) You can cancel this agreement by notifying Customer Services you want

to terminate. If you are cancelling because we have increased a charge

above RPI or we have changed these conditions and that change is of

material detriment to you (see 2©(iii)), your agreement will terminate

immediately. We will refund credit on your prepaid account if before the

increase occurs you have written to us requesting that we disconnect

your SIM, and refund credit on your prepaid account at the time of

disconnection. Otherwise, whether you are within the minimum agreement

period or outside it, your agreement will terminate one calendar month

from receipt of that notice. You will be responsible for all charges including

the monthly charges up to and including the date of termination. You are

free to restore your agreement throughout the notice period"

Also, please find the link to the full T&C's here, in case I have missed anything!!

 

On a seperate note

 

Can Mobile telephone contract's Early Termination Fees be considered Penalty Charging?

 

Are there any laws that govern how much one of these organisations can charge, and what their fees are based upon?

 

Thanks

 

Monsieur Poisson :cool:

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It's when the computer takes over, common sense is lost! It may be easier to pay the price asked, along with the penalty termination fee (which will probably be the line rental only until the contract ends). Once this is processed, you'll receive a cheque in payment of any refund, as long as it is over £2.40. (Although this might have changed). If you delay, it won't really effect your termination, as it will still terminate on the same anniversary.

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the charges you are disputing, please elaborate

post office WON 12/11/06

 

abbey.LBA sent 30/10/06.MCOL claim submitted 8/11/06.allocation questionnaire sent 16/12/06.schedule of charges sent 16/12/06.WON

 

2nd abbey claim SAR sent 3/1/07.WON.complaint letter sent 18/1/08

 

alliance and Leicester.WON

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The charges I am disputing are mobile internet GPRS charges which have apparently come from my phone. I never use mobile internet, so the only conclusion I can reach is that someone else used my phone without my permission.

 

I actually, at this stage, don't have the money to pay the bill, as I am about to start a new job and won't get paid until the end of January.

 

Essentially, what I am really cross about is that it is one rule for them, and another for customers. How are they allowed to breach their own T&Cs, and I can't do a bloomin' thing!?!

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Firstly, the phone can make GPRS data calls for a variety of reasons, and by default trhis is enabled (SMS texts use GPRS too). As to there being one rule etc, etc, well - it's their ball and ball-park, and whilst they are not known for perfect customer relations, it is hardly their fault you can't pay them. Whilst this doesn't help you, you need to ensure some form of payment is made to prevent your credit record being trashed for the next 6 years - and that's something you agreed to. Pay as You Go is a better alternative than contract when finances are tight.

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Basically, I want to terminate the agreement due to sloppy customer services, and will pay a final bill once they have cancelled the contract and sent it out.

 

My contention with them is that they won't cancel the contract as per their own T&C's.

 

I've got no problem in paying what I owe, once they cancel the contract and send me the final bill including their early termination fee etc.

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I doubt they will cancel a contract then send a bill, they'd be stupid to do so. You normally send them what they say it will cost to conclude the contract early, and in receipt of this consideration, they end the contract and your liabilitry. It's also worth endsuring as part of the negotiations, that as you are unsatisfied with their services you also want to ensure that once all requested monies are paid, no adverse data has been (or will) be supplied to third parties, and that all processing of your personal information will cease on termination.

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Hello there

 

I ended my contract with Wee-Mobile, sorry T-Mobile, back in December, and they have issued me with a final bill, which I am disputing due to the charges they added to my account over the last four years.

 

I plan to issue them with a SAR, but obviously want them to cease processing my data in a negative way, ie to CRA's etc, whilst this dispute is being dealt with.

 

How would I go about doing this?

 

Thankyou, oh wise ones!! ;)

 

Mr Fish

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