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    • Hi, I've been reading the invaluable advice on this forum and reading about the problems with Evri and lost delivery of items.  From what I gather the initial steps after having exhausted every's own lost item claim process is to draft a Letter of Claim, I think it is called and to register with the government Money Claims.  I have got a login for Money Claims and have made an initial stab at the letter but I'm not certain I have got it right. Am I right to assume that having exhausted Evri customer service's claims process and having received the denial of any compensation because the laptop I was sending is on the non-compensatory list that my next step would be to send the Letter of Claim to them? Let me provide some basic details which I hopefully have addressed in the letter. I purchased a laptop through Amazon.co.uk which a business in Belfast sold refurbished laptops through.  They had a 30 day money back guarantee for a full refund if you have any issues with the laptop.  I have the invoice from Amazon showing the purchase.  On 27 April, 2024 before the end of the 30 day period I used their ParcelShop (inside a Tesco) to send the laptop back and have the tracking reference mentioned in the letter.  As mentioned in the letter there was they advised they could not give me or sell me any insurance because laptops are on the non-compensatory list so I just paid the normal delivery cost.  It was scanned as leaving the ParcelShop on 29 April and the tracking has been like that ever since.  After a 28 working day Evri claim process they gave the expected response that they could not provide any compensation and simply could not proceed with my claim. I was hoping to get some advice on whether I go ahead now and email this to Customer Services straightaway and should I send a hard-copy to the Evri address as well?  Or are there any steps I have missed out on first?  I believe 14 days is the reasonable period of time for them to respond so if I were to send it tomorrow, for example 12 June then I should expect a reply by 26 June, is that correct and fair?  And assuming they don't reply with a full refund then I would then go down the government Money Claims site to proceed with that? Sorry for all the questions, I want to make sure I go about it properly.  I'll continue to read through other cases on here so I can get an even better handle on the process. I attached a LOC, happy for any edits or updates that will make it even better. Thanks so much for anyone's help! Regards, Matt Evri letter of claim.docx
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    • Hi friends,  I’m a bit worried I may have got confused with timings here. I thought I had 33 days from my acknowledgment to submit a defence but the date added above says 3/6/24.   have I missed the date?   if so how can I apply for an exception due to my disability and problems with deadlines and dates etc (ADHD)?   what should I submit as a defence?   I’ve had no reply from BW so far    just been back on MCOL and it says 28 days from service if I completed an acknowledgment of service so does that mean 28 days from that of acknowledgement (I.e. 16/5) which would make deadline for defence 14/6?   Thanks! Panicking here.
    • Normally we don't advise playing your cards early in a snotty letter, but as you have appealed we might as well use what you wrote in the appeal against them. There is no rush, you have until 6 July to get it to them.  See what the other regulars think too. How about something like this? -   Dear Rachael & Sean, cheers for your Letter of Claim.  I rolled around on the floor in laughter at the idea you'd actually thought I'd take such tripe seriously and would cough up! As usual you'll have been too bone idle to do any due diligence.  Had you done so you would have seen that I appealed to your client.  Indeed the driver on the day is a textbook example of having done exactly what you should do when you do not wish to be bound by the T&Cs in a private car park. Of course none of that mattered to the spivs you represent but do you really want to put such a useless case in front of a judge? To be fair, your clients are very useful members of the human race - as comedians.  How I loved the page turner of their antics at The Citrus Building in Bournemouth.  It was chuckle after chuckle reading about them, letter after letter, month after month, insisting they were legally in the right, even through someone who had done just the first day of a GCSE law course could have told them they weren't.  Until the denouement - BOOM - an absolute hammering in court.  In fact - SLAM, BANG - managing to lose twice against the same motorist for the same car park in front of two different judges. Your client can either drop their foolishness now or get yet another tolchocking* in court where I will go for an unreasonable costs order under CPR 27.14(2)(g) and spend the dosh on a nice summer holiday, while every day laughing at your clients' expense. I look forward to your deafening silence. COPIED TO COUNTRYWIDE PARKING MANAGEMENT LTD   *  This word is used under licence from Brassnecked
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Then you must counter and refute that evidence in your opposing statement as to why their application should be denied.

 

Interesting little bit of info with regards to expert testimony in SJ applications....you should use it in your statement.

 

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https://heinonline.org/HOL/LandingPage?handle=hein.journals/davlr22&div=9&id=&page=

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On 21/04/2021 at 12:16, Andyorch said:

Yes an application for SJ will pause the main process.....and take priority or sometimes the application can be heard at the same time a CMC is held to discuss the main proceedings.

 

You wont know if the claimants have been granted permission to use an E W that is between the claimant and the court...your agreement will only come into play if you agree with the findings of said expert.....not whether you agree they can use one.....

 

Re venue you must push and insist that the hearing is held at your local county court as you are the LIP....and that's for both...SJ application and main hearing assuming they fail to get SJ.

 

Andy

 

This is the response from the court re venue Andy & the inclusion is the expert report and it’s reference in their WS, can I still push / insist to move to local court?

 

What you say is correct in relation to hearings where the parties would be attending in person.  However, this present hearing is by telephone conference and geographical location is not significant.  It will be open to you at the hearing to request transfer of the case to Xxxxxxx. 

 

The Judge may deal with that particular point when you raise it, although the hearing is to resolve the issues raised in the claimant’s application.  Depending on the outcome of that hearing, the Judge will give directions as to preparing the case for trial, and will consider at that time whether expert evidence is necessary, as well as whether transfer is appropriate.

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There is no need to attend as its a telephone hearing to discuss the claimants application for SJ...as I said above and now confirmed  the DJ is dealing with their application and allocation at the same time.

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Yes and in particular why a expert witness testimony should not be required in an application for summary judgment.

 

Post your draft here nearer to the time.

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Morning Andy / Everyone-  WS draft enclosed if you can have a read / review / advise?

 

I'll need to complete this and send this week as the court states 2 clear days before the hearing in their documents

 

TIA All, I'm nervous about the whole hearing thing so any help / advise appreciated!

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Its a little wordy.....but you have covered all the main points. If I may suggest that you move all re their application for SJ and expert witness testimony to the intro of the statement IE 4 before point 2...then run into the background.

 

The statement would be ideal if it was a statement submitted as part of the normal process IE after allocation...but this statement is simply to defeat their application for SJ and the use of a expert witness in said application...you must get the Judges attention within your first opening paragraphs.

 

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I normally draft a statement in response to SJ with the following intro and conclusion.

 

I Mr ******, being the Defendant in this case will state as follows; I make this Witness Statement in objection and to oppose the claimant application for Strike Out/Summary Judgment in view of my defence submitted to the claim dated xxxxxx pursuant to CPR 24.5 (1) a/b.

 

I will respond to each paragraph of the same numbered as in the claimant’s statement.

 

Intro

 

 

Summary

 

17. Therefore paragraphs 19 – 20 I respectfully request the court dismiss this application for Strike Out of my defence /Summary judgment, that there are compelling reasons as to why this claim should be disposed at trail and put the claimant to further strict proof to disclose the requested documents on which their claim relies upon.

 

Should the claimant fail to comply their claim be struck out under CPR 3.4 as having no basis.

 

 

Also you will be required to finish it with the updated statement of truth.

 

 “I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

 

 

 

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So I’ve had a second witness statement arrive this morning- not looked at it yet but will do & post up later.

 

the hearing is next week- so doesn’t give much opportunity to respond to any points 

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Supplemental witness statements can be served not less than 3 days pre hearing......and usually its agreed between parties that they will add further statements.

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Ok, so pushing their luck procedurally again then as the hearing is Wednesday PM and no agreement to add from me.

 

what is your recommendation to deal with this please Andy?

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I will give you my opinion and advice when I've read the content :-D

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That's not a Supplemental statement in addition....its the main statement.....have they not already summitted their statement in support of their application ? 

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Yes they have Andy already submitted a statement in support of the original SJ application.

 

they have submitted this supplementary/ second statement following receipt of a copy of my WS- which was written in response to their original WS submitted with theIr SJ application 

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So not a supplemental...more a re draft after having received yours.....its not headed " Supplemental Statement "

 

Does it vary much to the original application statement ?

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The covering letter states second witness statement Andy, but nothing in the un redacted version that states it as a supplementary statement or secondary statement.

 

does it vary, I’m not sure it does other than the last point re costs.

 

Id say that in the “secondary statement” they are giving a response to the points I have made in my WS in response to their original WS, trying do defend my arguments.

 

i can upload their original WS again, if that would be of help as your input is appreciated as always.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Yes please upload the original then I can have a quick scan.

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Struggling to see much difference...but the first is dated 28th Aug 2020 made with application and the date of this second ?

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You recall I stated that your statement was a little wordy...well this is a direct result of what happens...your feeding information for them to use against you. A statement in response and objection to a SJ application should really only deal with the points based on their application and why you need to inform the court that this application is not suitable for the claim and it must proceed to a hearing.

 

Summary judgment applications must meet the stringent requirements of CPR 24 to qualify and be suitable to dispense with the need for the claim to proceed to full trial.

 

Are you following this topic ?  Their application been dismissed.

 

 

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