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    • just to be clear here..... the DVLA do not send letters if a drivers licence address differs from any car's V5C that shows the same driver as it's registered keeper.
    • sorry she is a private individual, the cars are parking on her land. she can clamp the cars. only firms were outlawed from doing it bazza. thats what the victims of people dumping cars on their drives near airports did and they didn't not get prosecuted.    
    • The DVLA keeps two records of you. One as a driver and one for your car. If they differ you might find out in around a month when they will send you a reminder as well as to your other half for their car. If you receive nothing then you can be fairly sure that you were tailgating though wouldn't explain why they didn't pick up your car on one of drive past their cameras. However even if you do get a PCN later then your situation will not change. The current PCN does not comply with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4 which is the main law that covers private parking. It doesn't comply for two reasons. 1. Section 9 [2][a] states  (2)The notice must— (a)specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates; The PCN states 47 minutes which are the arrival and departure times not the time you were actually parked. if you subtract the time you took to drive from the entrance. look for a parking place  park in it perhaps having to manoeuvre a couple of times to fit within the lines and unload the children reloading the children getting seat belts on  driving to the exit stopping for cars pedestrians on the way you may well find that the actual time you were parked was quite likely to be around ten minutes over the required time.  Motorists are allowed a MINIMUM of ten minutes Grace period [something that the rogues in the parking industry conveniently forget-the word minimum] . So it could be that you did not overstay. 2] Sectio9 [2][f]  (ii)the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver, the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Your PCN does not include the words in brackets and in 2a the Act included the word "must". Another fail. What those failures mean is that MET cannot transfer the liability to pay the charge from the driver to the keeper. Only the driver is now liable which is why we recommend our members not to appeal. It is so easy to reveal who was driving by saying "when I parked the car" than "when the driver parked the car".  As long as they don't know who was driving they have little chance of winning in court. This is partly because Courts do not accept that the driver and the keeper are the same person. And because anyone with a valid motor insurance policy is able to drive your cars. It is a shame that you are too far away to get photos of the car park signage. It is often poor and quite often the parking rogues lose in Court on their poor signage alone. I hope hat you can now relax and not panic about the PCN. You will receive many letters from Met, their unregulated debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors threatening you with ever higher amounts of money. The poor dears have never read the Act which states quite clearly that the maximum sum that can be charged is the amount on the signs. The Act has only been in force for 12 years so it may take a  few more years for the penny to drop.  You can safely ignore everything they send you unless or until they send you a Letter of Claim. Just come back to us if they do send one of those love letters to you and we will advise on a snotty letter to send them. In the meantime go on and enjoy your life. Continue reading other threads and if you do get any worrying letters let us know. 
    • Hopefully the ANPR cameras didn't pick up the two vehicles, but I don't think you're out of the woods just yet. MET's "work" consists of sending out hundreds of these invoices every week so yours might be a few days behind your partner's. There is also the matter of Royal Mail.  I once sold two second-hand books to someone on eBay.  Weirdly the cost of sending them separately was less than the cost of sending them in one parcel.  So to save a few bob I sent them seperately.  One turned up the next day.  One arrived after four days.  They were  sent from the same post office at the same time! But let's hope I'm being too pessimistic. Please update us of any developments.
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sent lba to n&p last week signed for via post office,still not signed for ,i have to wait til 5th dec before it,s returned to me .seems like i,ll need to change my return address before they,ll accept it,just a thought .anybody else had a similiar experience or could it be just a coincidence that it has gone astray

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sent lba to n&p last week signed for via post office,still not signed for ,i have to wait til 5th dec before it,s returned to me .seems like i,ll need to change my return address before they,ll accept it,just a thought .anybody else had a similiar experience or could it be just a coincidence that it has gone astray

 

If you are relying on track and trace website it is not always up to date.

I am not sure what you mean by cahnge your address - why will it be returned to you?

Consumer Health Forums - where you can discuss any health or relationship matters.

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my return address is on the back of the letter i sent as recorded.have also phoned royal mail today and they confirmed that it has not been delivered.maybe it,s just me putting 2&2 together:(

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phoned post office again this time told that sorry but it hasn,t been delivered and not that it has been refused and that you should never have been told that it would be returned to me:mad: .flippin typical i,ve now waited 2 weeks to get it back when i was never going to:mad: .so today i have now sent another lba with a copy of the first and the date on the second amended to give them 2 weeks.this time sent by next day by 1 o,clock guaranteed cost £4.10:o .oh well it,ll be well worth it ,filled in a missing letter form also so should get the postage back on the first 1 plus a whole 2 books of first class stamps:D woohoo

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hi just want to make sure i can still add to this thread , i take it that it would be mine as i started it:) ,sorry but me pc,s and forum posting don,t really go hand in hand ,i,m more used to holding a hammer:cool: ,anyway could one of the mods change the thread title ,i did try but as you see it,s still the same:confused: .i,m claiming against norwich and peterborough so could it be the title.sorry to be a pain .thank you:)

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this has happened to me too ...Sent 3 letters recorded signed for on 15th November & only one traceable ... PO said they'd been very busy & they were behind & to wait till 4th December.

 

I had the same thoughts as you if I'm honest :rolleyes: I only re-sent one of my LBA's but I only gave an extra 7 days & called it a 'final notice before proceedings' with a copy of the original LBA attached and saying how dissapointed I was they hadn't replied!

 

It may have been delivered but just no proof - i too will be claiming my postage back on these two when i get to the PO for a form :D

links to my current claims ...

My claim - Yorkshire Bank Visa

chezt V RBS Mastercard

Chezt v RBS Joint Account

chezt v Abbey Credit Card

 

Settled ...

chezt V Duet Card/Creation Finance

chezt v's Studio Cards

chezt v's Littlewoods Catalogue

 

Next ...

Abbey Joint a/c & Single a/c

Barclaycard (Mine & Hubby's)

Anyone else I can think of ...! :rolleyes:

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I dont know if this will help but I live close to N&P head office

I could hand deliver

 

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You may think that but . . ......

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Total repaid to date £1947.58

 

Lloyds Currrent a/c £745.27

Moneyclaim filed 17th June

Defence and AQ 25th July. Case struck out 11 Aug

reinstated and hearing 15th Jan 2007

 

Lloyds loan a/c D A request expired 19th June

Proceedings under S7 Data Protection Act issued 29th June defence and counterclaim 27 July

Hearing Jan 3 2007

Listed final hearing April 2007-

Judge declared an interest and disqualified himself

new date to be set

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thanks crusty git :) ,it went by royalmail special delivery ,i,ve been checking track n trace all day :) so maybe it was me that overloaded their system :) ,of all the days it happens and it matters to me it flippin crashes even the helpline can,t tell me it was delivered:mad: .bum i,ll try again tommorrow:cool:

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are back to the pc i,ve been pc free for a week ,anyway since had a reply from n&p 13th ,and he anticipates a response to the points raised in 7 days,mmmm he even says that he has not recieved my 1st lba sent on the 15th nov,:confused: i wondered why i put another copy of it in the second lba i sent with an amended date:confused: ,i think i now know why banks think that these charges are fair:| the people who work there are so far removed from the real world:)

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ok 14 days have gone had a reply,saying only we may get back to you in 7 days.i,ve added up what i,m claiming back but now that i,ve added 8% ,this means the total amount is over 5k.i am claiming on 2 accounts so should i now put it as seperate claims through mycol

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well since had a reply,as you cannot agree to the terms and conditions on the accounts ,i,m sure you will agree that it is best if your accounts are closed :confused: ,i thought they already were.this bit has really confused me :though whilst it is clear that you do not agree with the level of charges specified,i am sure that you agree that a charge in itself is appropriate.eh yes but what does he call a reasonable amount:| .best he is going to offer is an offer of 50% as a gesture of goodwill only.anybody see a problem using mycol as the claim with interest takes the amount over 5k

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well keep us posted lilal Mr N&P will not be impressed at having to pay back this money will he you say your account is with debt recovery are you going to have you default removed too or does the refund not cover what you owe them either way its money for you or pays back what you are paying them.

 

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luckily i,ve never had a default ,lets just say they hammered me big time like £240 in 3 days,we went into meltdown the brown stuff well n truly hit the fan:evil: .can,t wait till i can stick 2 fingers up at em:D .they owe us twice what we owe them:p

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thats great news then its about time someone stuck thoses certain fingers up to the norwich and peterborough. I know what you mean about being hammered big style same for us this time last year i was sacked for falling preg with my son, The company i was working for decided that as they had sacked me they would not pay!!!! (didnt tell me of course) 1st thing i knew about it was phoning bank on what was meant to be pay day to be informed they had charged me for 11 cheques and 8 directdebits a total of £560.50 in one day and a lot more after that! when i explained the situation to bank they just looked as if to say and thats our problem why? so Im with you on this one fingers to the lot of them :D

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yep i,m so grateful to all the guys on this site ,i no longer have that feeling of being alone:) .everybodies sh*t is different but n&p make out that you are the only 1 that has the problem

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yahay:D :D ,have it in my hand ,i won it all back thanks to everybody:D :):cool: £4238.50. we owed them £2838.71 so we still get a bit :cool: .thanks again you bet i,m gonna donate,and fill the survey, now to go after the others.

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just an update ,paid me cheque in :D .after an offer of 50% from the n&p ,we accecpted only as part settlement and with the rejection letter added that if they didn,t make a full settlement within 10 days then we would then start court action :) .this done it and a full offer was made 2 days later:) .i gave up with using the post office and took the letter back to the branch and it went by internal mail,good as any next day guaranteed less the £4.50.i did use sae from n&p though so this may have helped too.hope this helps anybody:cool:

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