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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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This really is just a placeholder until I get hold of the full letter tomorrow but any advice is appreciated as with only being 30(ish) I have no experience with pensions

 

My father in law has been receiving letter for approximately 8 years or more stating he has approximately 38,000 in a pension

 

He is currently 63 and has been waiting to pull part of this out towards a new caravan

 

Today he has received a letter "politely" advising him that there has been an administration error and that his pension was converted into an annuity 8 years ago and therefore there is nothing in his pension pot and that they hope that "this will not cause him any stress"

 

He has checked and apparently he has been receiving £10 a week/month (wasn't too clear on the phone) but he can't remember ever signing up to this

 

I will get hold of the letter tomorrow hopefully and be able to give more story but he also has yearly statements for the last 8 years stating this money was waiting for him and is obviously distraught

 

Any advice?

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Thanks honeybee I will do asap

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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please find attached the documents, i believe i have removed all the relevant data

 

sorry they are not the best images but uploading from work means i have to do it when they're not looking

pension.pdf

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Thank you for that.

 

 

Assuming the plan numbers are the same in both sets of correspondence, that seems to set out their position. Has FiL been receiving £500 plus a month with 3% increases? I see it also pays a dependant's pension, presumably a spouse?

 

 

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Thank you for that.

 

 

Assuming the plan numbers are the same in both sets of correspondence, that seems to set out their position. Has FiL been receiving £500 plus a month with 3% increases? I see it also pays a dependant's pension, presumably a spouse?

 

 

HB

 

i would assume the defendant is indeed his wife

the £550 is apparently yearly not monthly

as for the 3% increase he has no idea as he has never had any sort of statement about this annuity - only statments saying his total pension pot value

 

he also has no memory of agreeing to an annuity, and although it suggests a tax free payment on the letter he is also fairly certain he has not had one

 

i know it sounds like closing the door after the horse has bolted but is it worth doing a SAR or whatever the GDPR equivalent is to get the documents where he agreed to this?

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there is an exactly matching case in todays Daily Mail financial section.

If the policy holder takes out any amount as cash for whatever reason the rest of the pot is converted to an annuity automatically.

 

back in 2010 this would have been the only legal way of taking cash out without penalty or paying tax so it looks as though there is nothing that can be done as long as he has been getting the pension each month/year.

 

Advice at the time would have been to either pay tax on the withdrawn money or transfer the balance to another scheme but at the time the pension co would have the whip hand and could have made that very difficult until after april 2010

 

When exactly did FIL take a cash amount of the pot as he mght have recourse to comaplin about incorrect financial advice/actions is after the pension reform start but not leave much room for change now as it is a bit late.

 

Most likely get a small top up or compensation if things go his way.

If before april 2010 then he will get nowhere.

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Thank you for that.

 

 

Assuming the plan numbers are the same in both sets of correspondence, that seems to set out their position. Has FiL been receiving £500 plus a month with 3% increases? I see it also pays a dependant's pension, presumably a spouse?

 

 

HB

 

It was Gross £559 a year HB so about £37 a month after 20% income tax deduction when it started in 2011. With 3% annual increases now around £43 a month after tax.

 

 

Your could certainly do a SAR labrat and get copies of his instructions in 2010, assuming they exist. I'd guess he did give instructions even if he doesn't remember it or didn't understand what he was instructing.

 

Do you have his bank statements? Can you check he has actually been receiving the pension since January 2011?

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there is an exactly matching case in todays Daily Mail financial section.

If the policy holder takes out any amount as cash for whatever reason the rest of the pot is converted to an annuity automatically.

 

back in 2010 this would have been the only legal way of taking cash out without penalty or paying tax so it looks as though there is nothing that can be done as long as he has been getting the pension each month/year.

 

Advice at the time would have been to either pay tax on the withdrawn money or transfer the balance to another scheme but at the time the pension co would have the whip hand and could have made that very difficult until after april 2010

 

When exactly did FIL take a cash amount of the pot as he mght have recourse to comaplin about incorrect financial advice/actions is after the pension reform start but not leave much room for change now as it is a bit late.

 

Most likely get a small top up or compensation if things go his way.

If before april 2010 then he will get nowhere.

 

going off the letter it was done december 2010 so will chase this thank you

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cant seem to edit so sorry for double post

 

just checked down pension wise and apparently he should have been put on an enhanced pension with being diabetic

is this also worth chasing?

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yes,

try and get the info as they should have offered him a transfer of balance if they didnt want to keep the rest of the pot as a pot.

By then the law had changed and they couldnt force people to take an annuity in that way.

 

get what you can and then go to the PAS and eventualy the Pensions Ombudsman if the PAS think it has legs.

 

As 8 years of paying out a pension have passed it would be unusual (but it does happen) to get an order that forced them to hand over a pot of money now but getting an enhanced payout backdated is easily doable

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Will update as I can

 

I only see FIL once a week so may take a while

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