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    • Yeah I figured, unlikely I'll need credit anyway mortgage all paid off etc so I'll take that on the chin and learn from the experience. Probably would've beaten that too had I remembered the protocol, first time ever going through the process though sob it wasn't familiar to me  Oh well  
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    • A set aside application costs £275 which is more than the judgement so not worth it. Not that they would grant a set aside anyway.  Set asides are granted, for example, to people who moved and didn't get the court papers, so have a genuine reason for not defending.  Forgetting doesn't count. Your only choices are to pay up within 30 days, or defy the court and not pay.  If the latter, we've never seen a PPC enforce judgement for a single ticket, ever, you would get away without paying - but you would have a CCJ and a knackered credit file for six years.
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Hi

 

I'll try and keep this brief.

 

A friend and I got on a train recently where there is no ticket facility and there was no conductor on the train.

 

When we got to the destination station my mate took off to the ticket office and asked for two tickets from the last stop, not the station we go on at.

 

At this point I wasn't aware that he was getting my ticket and was fully expecting to get my own.

 

We'd had a few beers and he thought this was a bit of a high jinks and mischief, it certainly wasn't about the £3 difference in price.

 

Well, as you can imagine we were questioned, had our details taken and advised that a letter would be on the way.

 

Are we looking at prosecution or is there any possibility we'll be able to settle out of court?

 

I can't believe we've been this silly and neither of us have any convictions at all.

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The important thing is that when the letter arrives is to tell the truth and be extremely apologetic. The fact that this was a deliberate attempt to defraud rather than an accident is unhelpful. However, if you have nothing on your record for this kind of thing before then the chances are that you will have an invitation to pay a fixed penalty.

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Yep you should be ok

Await the letter

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Thanks for the reply. I'm really, really worried about this, I have recently got a new mortgage, have a job where my integrity is important and my wife is losing her job in a few months. This is not great and I'm very concerned.

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Which train company is it please?

 

I imagine this letter will either be a penalty notice, although I thought they were issued on the day, or an invitation to tell your side of the story. You're a long way from a conviction at this stage.

 

HB

Illegitimi non carborundum

 

 

 

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No they maintain the railway lines and are not a toc

Cant see this harming your job nor mortgage etc

Its not that serious in the scheme of things

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Yes, I thought it may be,I think its Great Western.

 

My concerns about the mortgage and job etc is about getting a new job with a record (should anything happen) and therefore paying the mortgage.

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You would be extremely unlucky to get a conviction out of this its a very lowvlevel run of the mill occurrence unless you have history of it..... an out of court settlement is 99% certain if you deal with it properly

 

Aawait their letter IF you get one..they have 6 mts

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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You would be extremely unlucky to get a conviction out of this its a very lowvlevel run of the mill occurrence unless you have history of it..... an out of court settlement is 99% certain if you deal with it properly

 

Aawait their letter IF you get one..they have 6 mts

 

Thanks, this is 100% the first time anything like this has ever happened in my entire life. 6 months is a long time to have this hanging over me, I hope you're right. Thanks

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hows this going?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Sorry for the delay in updating this.

 

I had a letter from GWR with a fine of about £80 plus train fare (about £8) and paid it straight away online.

 

Thankfully no court case!

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you mean an out of court settlement?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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