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    • "We suffer more in imagination than in reality" - really pleased this all happened. Settled by TO, full amount save as to costs and without interest claimed. I consider this a success but feel free to move this thread to wherever it's appropriate. I say it's a success because when I started this journey I was in a position of looking to pay interest on all these accounts, allowing them to default stopped that and so even though I am paying the full amount, it is without a doubt reduced from my position 3 years ago and I feel knowing this outcome was possible, happy to gotten this far, defended myself in person and left with a loan with terms I could only dream of, written into law as interest free! I will make better decisions in the future on other accounts, knowing key stages of this whole process. We had the opportunity to speak in court, Judge (feels like just before a ruling) was clear in such that he 'had all the relevant paperwork to make a judgement'. He wasn't pleased I hadn't settled before Court.. but then stated due to WS and verbal arguments on why I haven't settled, from my WS conclusion as follows: "11. The Defendant was not given ample evidence to prove the debt and therefore was not required to enter settlement negotiations. Should the debt be proved in the future, the Defendant is willing to enter such negotiations with the Claimant. "  He offered to stand down the case to give us chance to settle and that that was for my benefit specifically - their Sols didn't want to, he asked me whether I wanted to proceed to judgement or be given the opportunity to settle. Naturally, I snapped his hand off and we entered negotiations (took about 45 minutes). He added I should get legal advice for matters such as these. They were unwilling to agree to a TO unless it was full amount claimed, plus costs, plus interest. Which I rejected as I felt that was unfair in light of the circumstances and the judges comments, I then countered with full amount minus all costs and interest over 84 months. They accepted that. I believe the Judge wouldn't have been happy if they didn't accept a payment plan for the full amount, at this late stage. The judge was very impressed by my articulate defence and WS (Thanks CAG!) he respected that I was wiling to engage with the process but commented only I  can know whether this debt is mine, but stated that Civil cases were based on balance of probabilities, not without shadow of a doubt, and all he needs to determine is whether the account existed. Verbal arguments aside; he has enough evidence in paperwork for that. He clarified that a copy of a DN and NOA is sufficient proof based on balance of probabilities that they were served. I still disagree, but hey, I'm just me.. It's definitely not strict proof as basically I have to prove the negative (I didn't receive them/they were not served), which is impossible. Overall, a great result I think! BT  
    • Seeking further advice now. The 33 days in which the defendant has to submit a defence expires at 16:00 tomorrow. The defendant has submitted an acknowledgement of service but looking to get the claim awarded by default in failure to submit the defence. This is MoneyClaim Online and can see an option to request a default judgement but believe that is for failure to acknowledge the claim within 14 days??  So being MoneyClaim Online, how do I request the claim be awarded in my favour?
    • Have to agree with the above Health and safety legislation is specific in that the service provider in so far as is reasonably practicable, the health, safety and welfare at work of all his employees and those not in the employ of the business. You claim is like saying you slipped in the swimming pool area while taking a dip. As rightly stated by by the leisure centre, a sports hall has dedicated equipment and you yourself personally have a legal obligation in mitigating danger or injury to yourself by taking account of your immediate surroundings. Where your claim will fail is if it is reasonable and proportionate to impose liability of the Leisure Centre? The answer has to be no.
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I put in a claim with Lloyds (Platinum Plus account) for £955 plus £120 court fee plus interest and have a hearing on Dec 7th. I was yesterday offered £705 + £120 court fee and the interest. The different between £955 and £705 is £250. This £250 is made up of £15 monthly account manintenace charges levied to hold the account with Lloyds. However I also hold a company account with Lloyds and they said that as long as I have the company account the personal Platinum account would not incur the usual £15 monthly account maintenance fees. For a while they did not charge me the £15 a month to hold this account and then suddenly without warning they did. I therefore put these into the claim as I feel they are unauthorised and unjust, as they have gone back on their word. I am right to accept the above settlement as a part settlement or shall I take what I have been offered becuase I cannot legitiametly claim the monthly account maintenance fees? Please adivse if possible as I am ready to write back to SC&M with my descsion. I will not be signing their so called terms and conditions as the refund of the charges is unconditonal in my eyes. If anyone wants help reclaiming from Lloyds please let me know as they have taken me right tio the wire and have threatened me with all sorts. I have also taken action against them for harassment re phone calls. They still call me so I will be making another case against these bleeps early next week! Thanks for reading!

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You cant claim back fees applied to your account for the type of account you have. I would have thought it would have been up to you once you realised fees were being applied to get in touch with them and sort it that way. Good luck with everything and keep us updated.

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As Zoe said, the monthly account fee's are a service charge and unfortunately cannot be claimed under a court action to recover unlawful penalties, becouse they are not. If you were not informed that they were upgrading your account and adding the fee's, its probably best to start a seperate complaint with Lloyds. If you get no joy, try the Ombudsman.

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