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Hi just recieved a letter from payday uk

 

Stating account number

New reference and balance due

 

Sold to prac finacial limited recently

 

We have not been made aware of any valid reason why the balance has not been paid and PRAC financial limited are now the legal owners of the debt. Prease dorect all payments and corespondence to PRAC

 

Any questions etc contact prac

 

 

In the same envelope a letter from bw legal

 

Our client PRAC ltd

 

Original creditor payday uk and orginal account number

 

Representing prac. And enclise correspondence confirmibg that our client has aquired the debt you previously owed to instant cash ltd / t/a pay dau uk.

We would also like to bring to your atenyion that only our client can now give full discharge of this debt and you should now only contact us about your account

 

Then goes onto payment methods

 

Then great news lol

 

We are delighted that for the next 28 days we can offer you a 10 % discount and your new balance would be £***.**. All you have to do is set up a payment arrangement with us within the next 28 days. Act now as this offer is only available untill 27th march 2017 after which it will no longer be available and the full balance will remain due.

 

If you settle your discounted balance in full our client will update your credit file and your pay day uk account will be marked as settled. If you pay by instalments our client will update your credit file accordingly each month

 

 

 

Letter 3 in same envelope

 

Original creditor payday uk

Ac number

Balance due

 

We are writing to inform you that we have acquired the above bedt from instant cash loans ltd T/a payday uk

 

We enclosed a copy letter from instant cash loans ltd T/a payday uk confirming our ownership of the debt

 

Only prac financial limited may now give valid discharge of this debt but have apointed bw legal services ltd as our representatives

 

By wahy of introduction we are a specialist debt purchaser. We take the aproach that we would prefer to work with you in order to agree a suitable repayment agreement based on your financial circumstances rather than having to take formal action

 

We there fore strongly urge yo to take this oportunity to deal with your outstanding liability by by discussing a suitable repayment with our representatives bw legal who are instructed by us to discuss affordable proposals for repayment with you

 

 

Any tip , advice on the above ?

( apart from paying as i know thats one way to get rid of this )

 

Info needed

More info from them ?

 

Got quite a bit of money going out at the moment and we are struggling with aby extra debt

 

Any advice aprrciatex and taken on board

 

Thanks

 

Dave

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Lowlife dca threat-o-gram

 

They are not bailiffs

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Lowlife dca threat-o-gram

 

They are not bailiffs

 

Thanks for reply

 

Ignore . Do nothing ?

Do i send them a letter requesting anything ?

Arange payment plan etc

 

Just trying to sort things realy :)

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Arh the combination of PRAC / BW Legal and Instant Cash Loans...

Considering it si BW Legal my own advice would be not to ignore.

 

Remember this is the firm who tag teamed with Lowell to issue Stat Demands like confetti - I am currently dealing with them on a fraudulent account and even when they are given proof, references and even a formal letter before action;

They still claim that its owed. (This letter before action they responded to below;)

 

We are the lawyers instructed on behalf of PRAC to recover the sums you owe to PRAC. We therefore do not recognise your letter as a “letter before claim

 

Sorry to sidetrack here, but BW legal have recently done a Lowell Portfolio and gone into the the debt industry themselves...

 

If you were to ignore - fine and probably a good idea for now... But be weary that they may initiate proceedings.

 

Oh and BTW... Ive challenged them on multiple issues the last few weeks. Yet they upped their discount to a whopping 50% .. :p Yeet when i told them when they purchased the account they took on full liabilities, they laughed and said "Even though we purchased the account and are the new legal owners, we have not taken on any liabilities in relation to this account" - Yes you have, you are *OBLIGED* to provide a CCA if i ask for it etc

So tell us more about this debt owed to PDUK etc

 

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Hi and thanks for taking the time to reply :)

 

So ideally . Hang fire for now then start the possibility of . Is it the 3 letter process ? Read about it but not actually done it yet

 

Also which template to use ?

 

Thanks again

 

Dave

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NO no ... NO 3 letter process... Have you been reading about sending 3 letters blah blah ... If so... then NO!

This is not the way to do it. Have you been looking at Freeman of the land things?

 

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They cant issue a stat Demand unless the debt is over 5K...Simply send them a section 77/78 request.

 

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you need to start a new thread

of your own please

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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