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    • If I have learnt one thing from this forum, it's not to call and communicate via email. I passed this info on to her and they are pushing for her to call them.    "Unfortunately, you will need to call us. The conversation won’t be so black and white as to therefore type over email. In a nutshell we can confirm that the request to not pay for 3 months we cannot put in place"  I emailed them back on her behalf and said that what ever is discussed over the phone will need to be put in an email so that she can review it properly. No decisions will be made on that phone call.    "Once we speak to you on the phone we will follow up with an email to confirm the options discussed. [Phone number]"   Why are they pushing for a phone call? If its not so black and white, why can they then follow up with an email?  
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Without the Claimant providing a valid true copy of the executed Credit agreement that complies with the CCA, the Claimant has no grounds on which to enforce this alleged debt. 11. The Claimant has been unjustly enriched at the expense of the Defendant by purchasing bulk debt at a greatly reduced cost and subrogating for the original creditor in trying to recuperate the full amount of the original debt 12. The Defendant was not given ample evidence to prove the debt and therefore was not required to enter settlement negotiations. Should the debt be proved in the future, the Defendant is willing to enter such negotiations with the Claimant. On receipt of this claim I could not recall the precise details of the agreement or any debt and sought clarity from the claimant by way of a Section 78 request. The Claimant failed to comply. I can only assume as this was due to the Claimant not having any enforceable documentation and issuing a claim in hope of an undefended default judgment.   Statement of Truth I, ********, the Defendant, believe the facts stated within this Witness Statement to be true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in it’s truth. Signed: _________________________ _______ Dated: _____________________
    • Morning,  I am hoping someone can help, I am posting on behalf of my friend so I will try and provide as much info as possible.  Due health reasons, she is currently not working and unable to pay her contractual car finance payments. She emailed 247 Money and asked for a 3 month payment holiday, they refused this straight away with no reasons as to why. They have told her that instead she can make a payment of £200. She is currently getting £400+ a month ssp so this is not acceptable. She went back to them and explained she cannot make this payment and they have not offered an alternative plan. Its £200 or she falls into default.  She is now panicking as she does not want her car to be taken away. What options does she have?  Thank you, 
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various companies take differing stances, some more helpful than others

 

all will require a full I&E sheet, and will mark your cra files accordingly

 

read the link above, to see how they should behave, dont offer any more than you can easily afford

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Hi again, just to update

- I have now received agreement from the bank to extend the mortgage for another year, on a capital and interest repayment.

 

 

I am now in the process of writing to the credit card companies to ask that the accounts be frozen, interest stopped and a reduced payment accepted,

as I will be unable to meet all the minimum payments as well as the mortgage payment.

 

 

From re-reading through the posts, I see that I should also ask for my original agreement with the card companies.

 

 

May I ask the purpose of this?

As everything was done on line,

I do not think I have any agreements that have been actually signed,

so do not understand the necessity (I am sure once answered this question will become abundantly clear,

but I am an old duffer who doesn't quite understand it all).

 

 

At least the mortgage is safe :) and I will be able to sleep again.

 

 

I will post again when I have the replies from the credit card companies.

 

 

Many thanks to all for their help so far.

 

 

Regards Oldman

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Glad to see that things are starting to come together for you. Well done for getting this far without a nervous breakdown :razz:

 

For any cards that were taken out pre April 2007 lots of companies didn't keep the paperwork so they would not be able to enforce any debts through the courts if a debtor decided to stop paying. Also, some contracts were never signed or they supply just an application form which didn't contain all the necessary information, rendering them unenforceable. I would use this method where a creditor is being obstructive.

 

There is also a possible route to reducing these debts if charges have been added. Credit card charges can be reclaimed as well as loan charges. these charges are levied for late payments or going over the limit. The same applies to Mortgage charges although this is more tricky. Overdrafts are nigh on impossible

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Thank you Silverfox, that has explained it very well.

 

 

I will check on when the cards were first taken out, although I am fairly sure they were post-2007.

 

 

What I propose to do is incorporate a CCA request within the letters to the card companies asking for reduced payments,

sort of kill two birds with one stone, just in case the agreements are unenforceable.

 

 

Do you think this would be ok?

 

 

Can I also just check that the postal orders for £1 for the CCA should not be filled in?

 

 

I think I read that somewhere on here but would like clarification if possible.

 

 

Many thanks again, Oldman.

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There is different opinions on the filling in of payee details. I do as I make sure the payee is correct. Other leave it blank for the creditor to fill in. Either way you choose to do it, write on the reverse of the cheque/postal order, "Statutory Fee Only." If you incorporate the cheque/PO number in the letters and state there as well the stat purpose, that helps keep track of the PO details.

 

If you can, send all letters signed for as some companies will say they never got the letter, even if they did. If signed for is not affordable, get a free proof of postage from the Post Office.

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CCA request is better sent separate.

however, if the credit is still with the original lender , then that could be somewhat pointless

certainly if its after 2007.

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi again.

 

 

Update to my situation as follows

 

 

- send three letters off requesting CCA's and offering a lower payment as I cannot afford the minimum repayments.

 

 

Received a reply from Capital One agreeing to this, and enclosing my original Credit Card Application which was July 2007.

 

 

The other two (Barclaycard and MBNA) have not replied to my letter at all.

 

 

Not sure what to do next regarding the latter two - do I just carry on paying the small amount I have offered and wait and see, or do I stop paying altogether?

 

 

The mortgage has been sorted and has now been extended for a year, and converted to a capital and interest repayment so I will finish that next July.

 

 

Any ideas as to my next move regarding Barclaycard and MBNA?

 

 

Ironically, MBNA contacted me regarding my card as they thought there was something wrong and said they were sending me a new card

with a new number to make sure it had not been used by someone else.

This failed to arrive at all, but have not heard a word more from them.

 

 

Not sure what to do about that.

 

 

Looking forward to any further help I can receive.

 

 

Regards Oldman.

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cap1 application form you say not the agreement?

 

 

did they send the correct T&C's too..[date 2007 with you name on it?]

 

 

you can continue making your GOGW payments if you like or scan things up?

 

 

on the other two, if you wanted you could stop

as they've failed? the 12+2 working days deadline?

sar to MBNA might be useful to see what went on?

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Thanks Dx will check what they sent tomorrow and update. May I ask what GOGW stands for? I assume it's something to do with the lower payments? Will scan up the information from Cap1 as well tomorrow. Many thanks, Oldman.

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it should have turned into a link..

gesture of good will.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi again

 

If you can post up the 'agreement' cap1 sent you (minus all personal info and barcodes/ref no's) then we can assist in tha validity of it although if it is after April 2007 this may be a moot point (the rules changed then).

 

With the other two, as they have failed to supply, the account is in dispute and they should be told as much. Have you checked to see if the Postal Orders have been cashed? (Post Office can help there)

 

If you are not that bothered about your credit file being royally screwed, you could stop all payments until they comply with your request.

 

I would be inclined to make as much of a payment to ensure no default is placed and file a formal complaint to the banks.

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