shoplifting primark scotland| Police called, **UPDATE Clean CRB Clean visa check**

[silverfox1961]

Hi and welcome to CAG.

 

I have to confess I know next to nothing regarding the law in Scotland so i will leave that to the others.

 

As for RLP, BB (above) has spelt it out very clearly.

 

If you are able, can you post up a copy of the printout that the security guard gave you but if it includes any personal details, please obscure them. I am collecting copies of everything RLP pretend to be legal. If it is the one I suspect it is, it is full of bovine excrement.

 

Do not respond in any way to RLP or whichever pet debt collector of the day they choose to use. No power, nothing. The pretend they are doing this work to deter crime but without crime, their business model would fold overnight and then where would the boss get her flash cars from

[silverfox1961]

I suspect it is this (or similar) Only section one can be said to have any resemblance to reality.

[silverfox1961]

I will do my best to answer based on my limited knowledge of Scottish Law

 

Thank you all for taking the time to reply.

 

Silverfox, that's the exact letter I was given.

 

I didn't complete my post earlier because I had to attend to my baby.

 

A lot of what happened yesterday was foggy and the security officers said different things about it as well.

 

One of them said I concealed the clothes, while another said I took them at the customer service desk. The area was deserted with only one cashier, I didn't want to hold up the line while I was looking for the receipt for the items I wanted to exchange, so I put my things on the desk and emptied my bag and basket, the cashier told me she could do an unreceipted exchange if I couldn't find it. Here is where I am confused as to how the clothes got into my bag as he claims I added it to the things I was refunding while the other said I concealed them. I know I'm rambling but I'm just remembering some details and I'm trying to process it myself.

 

This part requires examination. You have no idea of how they got into your bag? This may have been a simple error on your part. i.e, distracted.

I was told to admit to theft to avoid them calling the police which I did. They found the clothes with me anyway so it would have been hard to say otherwise.

 

But then they called the police anyway. How nice of them. What was the £95 for? Shopping?

 

My husband wants us to go into Primark to see the manager and explain I have no idea how it happened and perhaps have them review the cctv footage. He wants to do this for my peace of mind cos I've been in pieces since yesterday. Do you think this is a good idea? I now cringe at the thought of going to the shops talk less of primark.

 

Primark won't care which is why they have the security staff and RLP to do the dirty work for them

Re the caution, will it affect my chances of securing a job in the future. I plan to go bac theto work when my children are a bit older. I was formerly in customer service in the finance sector.

 

While I cannot be sure of where this stands in relation to criminal offences and a criminal record, you may need to explain your actions to any boss as your work is in the financial sector and they like their staff to be squeaky clean.

 

Will the police be contacting me regarding a fine?

 

If this was just a caution then it is unlikely but you will have to wait for them to decide

Also what effect will it have on my immigration applications when the time comes for the family to renew our visa. We are all dependants on my husband's work permit.

 

Minor crimes don't normally affect visas but the rules can change dependent on the mood of the minister at the time. You should disclose this anyway when it comes up for renewal

 

The most worrying is that of social service. Honestly I'm not sure if he did say so, but I've convinced myself overnight that he did otherwise why would he takes their details.

 

The police have a duty of care so they may contact SS but this is likely to be a simple follow up to ensure the chils is looked after properly. I think the police office saw something in your behaviour at the time to suspect you have post natal depression.

 

I am yet to go for my 6 weeks post natal check. I will discuss this with the Gp as I forgot so many things about yesterday and they are only just coming back to me. That being said, that might have been to the fact that I was very distraught.

 

Absolutely bring this up with the gp. once a diagnosis is confirmed, this will help you deal a bit better than you are now. I would be making an appointment before the 6 week check

 

So many questions I know, but I will be able to deal with it better mentally if I can get as much answers as I can.

 

This has never happened which makes it all the more worrisome.

 

I have tried to be as factual as I can based on the knowledge I have (not a lot)

 

Deal with yourself first, get sorted and then we can deal with RLP later.

[silverfox1961]

Time is a great healer (as well as happy pills and therapy )

 

I know this will be hard for you for now but try and put it out of your mind. From what you say, the police have dealt with you and that matter may be finished.

 

RLP is easier to deal with so when the letters come, let us know and we can tell you to ignore some more.

 

My very best wishes.

[silverfox1961]

Oh wow. Nice FAQs not withstanding they are total bowlarks.

I wonder if CAG are having a serious affect on their bottom line. I do hope so.

I also noted on the FAQs that they only process data whilst dealing with this claim then securely destroy it.

This is a serious divergence from their usual practice of storing peoples data on a 'dishonest persons database'

 

I would bet they can't justify it to the ICO as they have not (to my knowledge anyway) used the database to prevent

or detect crime which was the ONLY grounds they possibly had for storing the data.

 

I sound a bit like a broken record when I keep saying this. RLP cannot take anyone to court! Only the retailer can do this and they don't seem to bother anymore.

 

As for people offering advice on CAG, I have in my possession a letter from RLP which will amaze you when I find it.

[silverfox1961]

This letter perfectly sums up RLPs attitude to CAG.

[silverfox1961]

Perfectly OK to continue ignoring.

 

The only time to respond is IF court papers turn up but to the best of my knowledge Primark have taken precisely zero people to court.

[silverfox1961]

Having just read the document supplied by Ford, I feel this option should be made available to the whole UK, not just Scotland. By actively partaking in the course(s) that are offered and completing them, it will give you a greater insight into your actions and no criminal conviction which would have made it harder for you to get work in the future.

 

There are other benefits too. Anyone else who has been referred to diversion for shoplifting can be directed to CAG to show just how much power RLP have. Of course this matter is separate to what RLP may imply but in my opinion, an excellent option for you.

[silverfox1961]

Hi

Many thanks for coming back to let us know how things have turned out. I am so pleased for you that everything is working out. I will certainly link to your thread in the future if a similar situation happens to someone else.

 

You got the right help that was needed and the Scottish system should be copied elsewhere. Well done