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    • Morning dx and thank you for your message.   With regards to your comment about them not needing to produce the deed, the additional directions ordered by the judge included 'a copy of any assignment o the debt or agreement relied upon'  so that is why I thought that point was relevant?
    • Sorry for the long post but I don't want to miss out any relevant information: My wife bought a car from Trade Centre UK and have been having nothing but trouble with it. Unfortunately we paid of the finance used to buy the car as we weren't expecting this much trouble with the car as we we though we would have protection as buying from a dealer. We are wondering if we can still reject the vehicle since the finance plan has been paid off. Timeline is as follows: 13/12/2023 -15/12/2023 Bought car from Trade Centre UK for £10548 £2000 deposit paid on credit card on 13/12/2023 £8548 on finance from Moneybarn (arranged through Trade Centre UK). picked up car on 15/12/2023 Also bought lifetime warranty for £50/month 25/12/2023 Engine Management Light comes on. The AA called out and diagnosed the following error codes: P0133 - Lambda sensor (bank 1, sensor 1) Oxygen Sensor. Error Message : Slow reaction. Error sporadic P0135 - Lambda sensor heat. circ.(bank1,sensor1) Oxygen Sensor. Error Message : Component defective Due to it being Christmas took a few days to get through to them but they booked me in for 28/12/2023 to run their own diagnostics. 28/12/2023 Took car in to Trade Centre so could check the car – They agreed it was the Oxygen Sensor and Booked me in for repair on 30/01/2024. I was told they had no earlier slots, and I would be fine to carry on driving car when I said I was afraid of problem worse. During diagnosing the problem, they reset the Engine Management Light. During drive home light comes back on. 29/12/2023 - 29/01/2024 I carry on driving the car but closer to the date, engine goes to reduced power every now and again – not being a mechanic I presumed that this was due to above fault. 20/01/2024 Not expecting any more problems paid off the finance on the car using personal loan from bank with lower interest rate. 30/01/2024 Trade Centre replace to O2 sensor (They also take it on a roughly 60mile road trip which seems a bit excessive to me – I can’t prove this as something prompted me take a picture of milage when I handed car in but I forgot take one on collection – only remembered next day.) 06/02/2024 Engine goes in reduced power mode again and engine management light comes on – Thinking the Trade centre’s 28 day warranty period was over I booked the car the into local garage for the next day to get problem fixed under the lifetime warranty package. Fault seems to clear after engine was switched off. 07/02/2024 In the Morning, I take it to local garage who say as the light gone off – the warranty company is unlikely to cover the cost of the repair or diagnostics and recommend I contact them when the light comes back on. In the evening the light comes back on and luckily I manage to get it back to the garage just before it shuts for the day. 08/02/2024 The Garage sends me a diagnostics video showing a lot error codes been picked up by their diagnostics machine including codes for Oxygen sensor and Nox Sensors, Accelerator pedal and several more. Video also shows EGR Hose not connected to the intake manifold properly, they believed this was confusing the onboard system as it is unlikely this many sensors would trigger at same the time but they couldn’t be certain until they repaired the hose. 13/02/2024 Finally get the car back as it took a while to get approval and payment for the repairs from the Warranty company. Garage told me to keep an eye the car as errors had cleared with the hose but couldn’t 100% certain that’s what caused the problem. 06/03/2024 Engine management light comes on again. Fed up I go into Trade Centre as I was just around the corner when it happened and asked them how to reject the car or have the problem fixed. They insist that as it’s over 28 days I need to get the car fixed under the warranty package I purchased and they could no longer fix the car as it was over 28 days. When I tried telling them it appeared to be the same or related problem they said they couldn’t help as I hadn’t contacted them earlier. I asked them if they were willing to connect the car to the diagnostics machine and tell me what the problem was, as a goodwill gesture, which he agreed to do and took the car to the back He came back around 30 minutes later and said they took a look at the sensor they replaced previously and there was nothing wrong with it and engine management light went off when they removed the sensor to check it. When I asked what the error code he couldn’t give me an exact fault but the said it one of the problems I told him earlier (Accelerator pedal). I have this visit audio recorded on my phone – I informed the reps I was recording several times. As the light wasn’t on, local garage couldn’t book me for a repair under warranty. 07/03/2024 Light came on so managed to book back into local garage for the 12/03/2024 Whilst waiting to take car into garage, I borrowed a OBD sensor and scanned for errors on the car. This showed the following errors: P11BE – Manufacturer specific code (Google showed this to be NOX sensor) P0133 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S1: Response too Slow 12/03/2024 Took car to local garage and the confirmed the above errors. This leads me to believe that either Trade Centre UK reps lied and just reset the light or just didn’t check properly (Obviously I am unable to prove this) 22/03/2024 Finally got the car back as according to garage, the warranty company took a long to time to pay for the repairs 28/04/2024 Engine management Light has come back on. Using the borrowed OBD scanner I am getting the following codes: P0133 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S1: Response too Slow P2138 - Accelerator Position Sensors (G79) / (G185): Implausible Correlation I have not yet booked into a garage as I wanted to see what my rights are in terms of rejecting the car as to me the faults seem related. I can’t keep using taxi or train to get to work every time the car goes into the garage as it is getting very expensive. Am I right in thinking that they have used up their chance to repair when they conducted the repair end of January or when they refused to repair it in February ? If I am still able to reject the vehicle could you point to any sample letters or emails I can use. Thankyou for your advice on my next steps.
    • Ok noted about the screenshot uploads. In terms of screwing up I had one previous ticket that defaulted and ended up in a CCJ from Southend airport because for some reason during COVID I didn't receive their claim form just a notice of default. This hospital ticket was the 2nd ticket that went to CCJ due to a lack of knowledge of the process. Maybe it's easier just to pay them in future I'm thinking though, I don't get them very often anyway
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    • please stop posting up unnecessary unnamed screenshot files  you've done it throughout your threads and we have to renamed them. RENAME THE FILE before you upload if its just text information like a defence or a claim history or a link to a previous post  type it here not by an unnamed screenshot attachment  . sorry NM but you've been here dealing with PPC claims since 2021 somehow you always manage to screw up.......or do totally the opposite of std repeated advice on 10'000 of PPC threads here you are your own worst enemy... dx  
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Last July I had a hard drive replaced in my son's laptop,

 

two months later I had a "north bridge chip" replaced in the same laptop, and

 

just three days ago the computer crashed again,

 

after a half hour conversation with one of the KNOWHOW people he said that the hard drive had crashed again

but that they would replace it free of charge,

 

when I asked him about the data on it he said it would be no problem for them to put the data on a flash drive and save it.

 

When I went to PC WORLD I was told that I would have to pay £80 for the data recovery.

When I queried this with them I was told that if I wanted the data I had no option but to pay.

I asked to be shown this policy and he printed the relevant page and it states..

 

."if you accidently delete important files, photos or home videos we can help.

our state of the art technology can recover your lost or deleted files etc, etc,"

 

My point is that "I" have not lost or deleted any files, the files are still on the three month old hard drive that they put in

and are only under threat because it is faulty and must be replaced.

 

I phoned trading standards and was told that I should use "Supply of goods and services act"..

 

Can anyone advise me on this please.

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Hi conchy _ joe

 

What T/S are saying is that when you initially spoke to KnowHow, they hadn't mentioned the £80 charge.

 

So under the Supply of Goods and Services Act 1982, which implies into all contracts of work or services that the work will be carried out:

  • with reasonable care and skill
  • in a reasonable time (if there is no specific time agreed); and
  • for a reasonable charge (if no fixed price was set in advance)

There is a tempate (scroll down) you can amend and send Recorded Delivery.

 

http://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/regulation/supply-of-goods-and-services-act-1982

 

When did you buy the laptop and how did you pay for it?

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hi rebel11, The laptop is a Toshiba and is approx. 5yrs old. When I was speaking to the KNOWHOW tech' at no time did he mention a charge, however when the man in PC WORLD checked the notes that had been left by the "tech" there was no record of what he had said, it seems that they only record certain calls at the direction of a manager.

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Hi conchy_joe

 

Write a Formal Letter of Complaint, mark it as such. Explain what's happened (second hardrive fault, third fault with laptop within 15 months), how they have let you down (when you spoke to KnowHow team, Tech said 'no problem we can replace hardrive, we can recover data, no mention whatsoever of £80 charge, not until you went into the store, you feel misled, the KnowHow tech should have told you at the time, the tech had a good half hour to tell you about the charge but failed to do so) and what you want them to do (waive the £80 charge).

 

Send it to:-

 

Mr Sebastian James

Chief Executive

Dixons Carphone

[email protected]

 

Let us know how you get on.

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You can e-mail it to him, that's why I posted the details.

 

Thanks rebel11, I'll send off a recorded delivery letter. I'm guessing that Sebastian James would be at the Dixons Carphone head office is that correct.
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The suggestions made so far are fine – except through it will all lead to what you might find to be an unacceptable delay in getting your computer back.

 

It seems to me to be quite reasonable to say that the hard disk should be covered under your statutory protection. It is only 15 months old. I don't think that modern day describes pack up in this way.

 

However, if you stand your ground now, you will find the whole thing been delayed and delayed with an uncertain outcome.

 

My advice would be to pay in order to get the matter sorted out and then to go back for it when you have the computer returned to you. At least then you would have the use of the machine. I would not get into protracted correspondence. I would do no more than write one or two letters and then go to legal action. I think the chances of you getting your money back in a County Court action a very high – and I expect that they would bottle out anyway.

 

By the way, I have to say why aren't you securing your data correctly? You shouldn't be in this position.

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Hi BankFodder, I still have the machine as the only way that I could have a new hard drive

and retain the data would be to pay the£80 and I baulked at this.

 

 

As to backing up and making sure that data is stored safely

my son usually transfers his work from the laptop to our PC

but unless you do this every single day there will always be a chance you could get caught out.

 

 

Being without the laptop for a while is no problem as he can do his work on the PC.

 

 

As I explained to rebel11

 

 

I have sent an email to Mr James, not terse,

simply giving him all the facts and finally saying that I think the charge should be waived,

and yes I think County Court action would be a success as the policy is quite ambiguous.

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go down maplin or pcword [haha]

 

 

and get a USB cradle for the Hard drive.

 

 

then pop it out the laptop

 

 

into the cradle

 

 

and treat it just like a USB stick in your laptop.

 

 

I bet your files are OK

 

 

and you can transfer them off ok yourself.

 

 

can I ask what is not happening on the lappy?

 

 

blue screen, not starting?

 

 

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hi dx100uk,

 

 

The screen starts with the usual, Toshiba innovations and at the bottom there is what looks like a task bar,

it gives you the option to click F2 which takes you into Bios, Set Up and Utilities etc.

 

 

The other option is F12 can't remember what that offers.

 

 

Regardless of what you do you end up with a black screen,

 

 

then it starts to print a message which rolls up endlessly repeating itself, part of the message says..."media cable missing" or something like that.

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SUCCESS...I received a phone call yesterday afternoon from a man who said that Sebastian James had received my email and whilst the company do charge for data recovery there would be no charge in this instance.

 

 

Thank you all for your help and advice....VBR.

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