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Got the paperwork back from NR today and

 

 

it confirms what I'd already been told by Kingsgate and Marlin.

 

 

Speaking of Marlin they also wrote today to say that they are sending out a field agent so that my wife can 'get back in touch' with them.

 

So to summarise,

 

 

the loan is not statute barred as last payment from Kingsgste was at the start of 2010.

There also doesn't appear to be any issues i can exploit in order to get Marlin off our backs.

 

I understand that i can tell the agent to go away as he had no right to enter property

and that is highly likely that Marlin will go the CCJ route.

 

 

So what's the next port of call?

 

 

Contacting Marlin and making an offer?

 

 

This will be far below what they want and they'll again ask for an income and expenditure breakdown.

 

 

Alternately there's the bankruptcy route which again we would struggle to afford but of course would draw a line under it all.

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no DCA doorstepper HAS ANY POWERS WHATSOEVER

go away or i'll call the police.

 

 

you are NOT legally obliged to dicus your debts with ANYONE at your door

or on the phone.

 

 

TBH: as Marlins are threatening a doorstepper really does show

they've probably got nothing to go on at all.

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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are there no arrears fees or anything from NR

nor PPi or insurance?

 

 

dx

 

 

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I wonder what write-on means?

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I wonder what write-on means?

 

 

dx

 

The write on payments appear to be debited from the account, Dx.. not quite sure what it means.

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Youre referring to the 6th January 2010 right?

 

 

I know from the paperwork Kingsgate gave me that they paid

£647.54 in march 09,

£310.93 in July 09 0,

£47.69 in October 09

£51.42 in February 2010

 

 

these sums were not received to the balance until January 2010(the first three) and March 2010 for the last sum.

 

To my untrained eye it also doesn't look like those sums altered the balance as there were write ons for the same amount.

 

 

If this is the case then in my mind the last actual payment would be February 2008,

 

 

Marlin insist that as the account was not terminated until April 2009

and that the final payment was received March 2010 statute barred doesn't count.

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NR correspondence and SAR narrative?

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would help to post up in case we can spot anything

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dn, various correspondence from both sources and sar narrative

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all merged in one file in post 138

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I'm thinking that if we contacted with an offer that it gives us more time dragging the whole thing out.

 

 

why?

 

 

I'd await theoldrouge to pop in

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I'm thinking that if we contacted with an offer that it gives us more time dragging the whole thing out.

 

 

why?

 

 

I'd await theoldrouge to pop in

 

 

dx

 

By that i assume you mean the agent. So when they show i don't let them in which they report back to Marlin and then i guess it goes to county court right?

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what have we told you about dca's?

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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what have we told you about dca's?

 

 

dx

 

I get that they have no right to enter property etc and that i should never provide income and expenditure to them,

 

but the debt is outstanding and they have the legal right to try to collect what's due

 

which would mean a ccj i thought which is what I'm trying to avoid.

 

I also get that i can sit and wait to see what they do but somethings got to happen eventually right?

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what makes you think that a dca will go to court

when NR flogged the debt?

 

 

for a debt of that level

there gotta be something very wrong

 

 

I question any DCa having any legal right to collect anything

on a lemon debt.

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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By that i assume you mean the agent. So when they show i don't let them in which they report back to Marlin and then i guess it goes to county court right?

 

 

 

I'd await theoldrouge to pop in

 

 

dx

 

I think "silentmovieman" thinks "theoldrouge" is a reference to a DCA :jaw::lol:

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ah yes well spotted

 

 

dca's have no right of entry

nor to collect any money over the phone nor at the doorstep

theoldrouge , I mean the cag user

knows far more than me on these matters

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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