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    • What do you guys think the chances are for her?   She followed the law, they didnt, then they engage in deception, would the judge take kindly to being lied to by these clowns? If we have a case then we should proceed and not allow these blatant dishonest cheaters to succeed 
    • I have looked at the car park and it is quite clearly marked that it is  pay to park  and advising that there are cameras installed so kind of difficult to dispute that. On the other hand it doesn't appear to state at the entrance what the charge is for breaching their rules. However they do have a load of writing in the two notices under the entrance sign which it would help if you could photograph legible copies of them. Also legible photos of the signs inside the car park as well as legible photos of the payment signs. I say legible because the wording of their signs is very important as to whether they have formed a contract with motorists. For example the entrance sign itself doe not offer a contract because it states the T&Cs are inside the car park. But the the two signs below may change that situation which is why we would like to see them. I have looked at their Notice to Keeper which is pretty close to what it should say apart from one item. Under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4 Section 9 [2]a] the PCN should specify the period of parking. It doesn't. It does show the ANPR times but that includes driving from the entrance to the parking spot and then from the parking place to the exit. I know that this is a small car park but the Act is quite clear that the parking period must be specified. That failure means that the keeper is no longer responsible for the charge, only the driver is now liable to pay. Should this ever go to Court , Judges do not accept that the driver and the keeper are the same person so ECP will have their work cut out deciding who was driving. As long as they do not know, it will be difficult for them to win in Court which is one reason why we advise not to appeal since the appeal can lead to them finding out at times that the driver  and the keeper were the same person. You will get loads of threats from ECP and their sixth rate debt collectors and solicitors. They will also keep quoting ever higher amounts owed. Do not worry, the maximum. they can charge is the amount on the sign. Anything over that is unlawful. You can safely ignore the drivel from the Drips but come back to us should you receive a Letter of Claim. That will be the Snotty letter time.
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    • Yes, it was, but in practice we've found time after time that judges will not rule against PPCs solely on the lack of PP.  They should - but they don't.  We include illegal signage in WSs, but more as a tactic to show the PPC up as spvis rather than in the hope that the judge will act on that one point alone. But sue them for what?  They haven't really done much apart from sending you stupid letters. Breach of GDPR?  It could be argued they knew you had Supremacy of Contact but it's a a long shot. Trespass to your vehicle?  I know someone on the Parking Prankster blog did that but it's one case out of thousands. Surely best to defy them and put the onus on them to sue you.  Make them carry the risk.  And if they finally do - smash them. If you want, I suppose you could have a laugh at the MA's expense.  Tell them about the criminality they have endorsed and give them 24 hours to have your tickets cancelled and have the signs removed - otherwise you will contact the council to start enforcement for breach of planning permission.
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If an employee is dismissed and given 7 days to appeal to the company, but doesn't get the appeal letter to them within the 7 days, does this mean it cant go to tribunal?....

 

Is it worth still writing although the 7 days have just passed, there is a valid reason for the time delay.

 

There is also GP backing for the case that would be presented to the tribunal.

 

Any ideas would be helpful.

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Start by appealing and see if they allow it. Explain why it is late in the appeal letter. Do it now!

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Sure - you can still submit a claim to Tribunal; if you choose to go down that route just don't leave submitting a claim for nearly three months (from the last act) though - submit the ET1 claim form sooner rather than later.

 

Just to clarify, that only applies to discrimination claims - it's three months less a day from the termination date for unfair dismissal.

 

OP, you need to appeal or it will likely affect compensation (a reduction of up to 25% for failing to follow the ACAS Code).

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Just to clarify, that only applies to discrimination claims - it's three months less a day from the termination date for unfair dismissal.

 

OP, you need to appeal or it will likely affect compensation (a reduction of up to 25% for failing to follow the ACAS Code).

 

Thanks for the clarification becky2585. SL

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Hi everyone....we wrote to advise them of the reasons why we could not appeal within the 7 days given, and they have advised us that we can now appeal the original decision to terminate the employment, we have to put this in writing within 7 days from today, which we can and will do, my question is......in the event of the appeal by another manager/branch should not go our way, does the time frame of taking to the employment tribunal go from the date of this appeal with the company? I am guessing it does, but need to be sure. The original termination of employment date was 18th October, and the 7 day appeal date ran out on 25th October, we wrote to state our situation on the 28th October and have heard back from them today. Am just making sure we don't need to still lodge the employment tribunal forms now? or wait til the outcome of the appeal? if they take their time we don't want to have lost the chance of tribunal as it has to be requested within 3 months of original act?

 

Sorry if rambling we just need to get this right as we have GP backing and don't want to lose the chance to use it effectively.

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ok thankyou ....ok we will send the tribunal forms off anyhow. And see what happens with this appeal with the company, if it goes our way we can just advise the tribunal.

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Success!! and thanks to all who advised here. We wrote to the company explaining why the letter of request to appeal was late and they offered the chance to still do so, a letter arrived on Wednesday offering an appeal hearing/meeting this morning, or extra time if needed. We felt it was best to just go and do it, no rep was needed as we had all evidence etc. and were able to put own points across.

 

All in all the whole procedure lasted an hour and a half, the Guy was well versed in disability and in the correct company rules and regulations, and confirmed that the company had not dealt with this matter in the correct way, he also advised of a few things which are in place within the company to offer support and help any employee with disability, we were not even aware these things existed, he explained where they had gone wrong and issued a statement of re-instatement, all wages etc are to be paid backdated to day of dismissal and a return to work is scheduled for beginning of January, present doctors note runs out on Xmas day and a new one will not be needed. Phased return and training will be the format. I am so happy for my relative and so pleased we did this. It was so daunting. We had held back the tribunal forms to see if the appeal came quickly and as it has we now don't need to do it.

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