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    • I have looked at the car park and it is quite clearly marked that it is  pay to park  and advising that there are cameras installed so kind of difficult to dispute that. On the other hand it doesn't appear to state at the entrance what the charge is for breaching their rules. However they do have a load of writing in the two notices under the entrance sign which it would help if you could photograph legible copies of them. Also legible photos of the signs inside the car park as well as legible photos of the payment signs. I say legible because the wording of their signs is very important as to whether they have formed a contract with motorists. For example the entrance sign itself doe not offer a contract because it states the T&Cs are inside the car park. But the the two signs below may change that situation which is why we would like to see them. I have looked at their Notice to Keeper which is pretty close to what it should say apart from one item. Under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4 Section 9 [2]a] the PCN should specify the period of parking. It doesn't. It does show the ANPR times but that includes driving from the entrance to the parking spot and then from the parking place to the exit. I know that this is a small car park but the Act is quite clear that the parking period must be specified. That failure means that the keeper is no longer responsible for the charge, only the driver is now liable to pay. Should this ever go to Court , Judges do not accept that the driver and the keeper are the same person so ECP will have their work cut out deciding who was driving. As long as they do not know, it will be difficult for them to win in Court which is one reason why we advise not to appeal since the appeal can lead to them finding out at times that the driver  and the keeper were the same person. You will get loads of threats from ECP and their sixth rate debt collectors and solicitors. They will also keep quoting ever higher amounts owed. Do not worry, the maximum. they can charge is the amount on the sign. Anything over that is unlawful. You can safely ignore the drivel from the Drips but come back to us should you receive a Letter of Claim. That will be the Snotty letter time.
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Thanks TANZARELLI, is this something that I should be producing even though they will (hopefully) settle prior to it going to court?

 

Also, if should be producing this, should I be sending it to the court sometime before the date of my hearing?

 

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When you got your court date you should have been told to submit to the court and to the other party any documents you wish to rely on in court, no later than 14 dyas prior to the hearing date. This may be different if you used the new strategy and the draft order. Were there any directions with your court date?

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OUT OF COURT SETTLEMENT AGREED, BARCLAYS PAID UP IN FULL!

 

Just to complete the story, I called Anthony Lombardi on Monday 26th February. He said that they were dealing with the claims in order of court date. My date was 26th March, so he advised to leave it for two weeks. He also advised that his colleague Laura Wrage was going to be dealing with my case. This was a very civilised coversation, and I thanked him for his help.

 

On Monday 12th March, I called Laura Wrage to discuss my claim. She said that she had requested the statements to verify the claim, she advised that I would receive a letter in the next day or two. Today, I received a letter from Barclays offering to pay me the full amount (including court costs) of £762.50. Just need to sign and send the letter back, and also write to Cardiff County Court advising them that the matter has been settled. I can smell that money coming my way!!

 

Thanks for everyone's help, and I will be donating some of my cash back to this site as soon as it is deposited in my account, because quite simply without this web site, I would not have gone this far.

 

Thanks a million for all your help, and for anyone who is having any doubts about claiming...just go for it, there are plenty of people here (including myself) who will be around to offer help and advise as required!

 

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I'm about to send the letter back to them now. Do you suggest simply crossing out the sentance that says "By accepting this offer, you also agree that the existence and the terms of this offer are confidential between us"?

 

Will this affect them paying me, as I also need to contact the Country Court to inform them that a settlement has been agreed.

 

Please reply.

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Tanz

 

I'm about to send the letter back to them now. Do you suggest simply crossing out the sentance that says "By accepting this offer, you also agree that the existence and the terms of this offer are confidential between us"?

 

Will this affect them paying me, as I also need to contact the Country Court to inform them that a settlement has been agreed.

 

Please reply.

 

I crossed mine out with a big black marker pen and it didn't affect them paying me. They have no right to impose terms on your settlement. Make sure you only write to the court when you have cleared funds too.

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Thanks for the reply. I will cross it off my the letter before returning it to them. I will have a problem waiting to cancel the court case tho. My hearing was set for this coming Monday (26th March), and there is no way that they will clear the funds in my account and leave me enough time to cancel the case.

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I will have a problem waiting to cancel the court case tho. My hearing was set for this coming Monday (26th March), and there is no way that they will clear the funds in my account and leave me enough time to cancel the case.

 

This is exactly what happened to me and this is not your problem, it's their problem and it's all of their own doing. They have had more than enough time to pay you, but they have stalled and stalled.

 

I rang them and told them this and I got paid via a BACS transfer.

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