Jump to content


  • Tweets

  • Posts

    • Well we can't predict what the judge will believe. PE will say that they responded in the deadline and you will say they don't. Nobody can tell what a random DJ will decide. However if you go for an OOC settlement you should still be able to get some money
    • What do you guys think the chances are for her?   She followed the law, they didnt, then they engage in deception, would the judge take kindly to being lied to by these clowns? If we have a case then we should proceed and not allow these blatant dishonest cheaters to succeed 
    • I have looked at the car park and it is quite clearly marked that it is  pay to park  and advising that there are cameras installed so kind of difficult to dispute that. On the other hand it doesn't appear to state at the entrance what the charge is for breaching their rules. However they do have a load of writing in the two notices under the entrance sign which it would help if you could photograph legible copies of them. Also legible photos of the signs inside the car park as well as legible photos of the payment signs. I say legible because the wording of their signs is very important as to whether they have formed a contract with motorists. For example the entrance sign itself doe not offer a contract because it states the T&Cs are inside the car park. But the the two signs below may change that situation which is why we would like to see them. I have looked at their Notice to Keeper which is pretty close to what it should say apart from one item. Under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4 Section 9 [2]a] the PCN should specify the period of parking. It doesn't. It does show the ANPR times but that includes driving from the entrance to the parking spot and then from the parking place to the exit. I know that this is a small car park but the Act is quite clear that the parking period must be specified. That failure means that the keeper is no longer responsible for the charge, only the driver is now liable to pay. Should this ever go to Court , Judges do not accept that the driver and the keeper are the same person so ECP will have their work cut out deciding who was driving. As long as they do not know, it will be difficult for them to win in Court which is one reason why we advise not to appeal since the appeal can lead to them finding out at times that the driver  and the keeper were the same person. You will get loads of threats from ECP and their sixth rate debt collectors and solicitors. They will also keep quoting ever higher amounts owed. Do not worry, the maximum. they can charge is the amount on the sign. Anything over that is unlawful. You can safely ignore the drivel from the Drips but come back to us should you receive a Letter of Claim. That will be the Snotty letter time.
    • please stop using @username - sends unnecessary alerts to people. everyone that's posted on your thread inc you gets an automatic email alert when someone else posts.  
  • Recommended Topics

  • Our picks

    • If you are buying a used car – you need to read this survival guide.
      • 1 reply
    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
      • 81 replies
    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
      • 161 replies
    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
        • Like

Sigma SPV1/HL Legal- Claim Form Issued **Discontinued**


Signaller
style="text-align: center;">  

Thread Locked

because no one has posted on it for the last 3594 days.

If you need to add something to this thread then

 

Please click the "Report " link

 

at the bottom of one of the posts.

 

If you want to post a new story then

Please

Start your own new thread

That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help 

 

Thanks

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 136
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

That’s fine.

 

Nothing will happen. Just have to get your defence in on time, which will then automatically be sent to the claimant.

 

Andy’s the expert with Sigma, but your defence is very straightforward – and should also include a request for strikeout. That letter has given all the ammunition you need.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Thank You again DB.I had to come home from work today because I got a call saying my dogs was rushed to the vet.Nothing to worry about though as my brother over reacted after he thought the dog had eaten something.I also got a call saying the course I was due to go on had been cancelled, so I have just over two weeks to submit my defence, although I would like to get it in before the deadline date.Hope to hear from you again soon.

 

Regards

 

Signaller

Link to post
Share on other sites

I've read through lots of threads but cannot find one the same/similar to mine.I've been trying to think of a defence for you to look at for me but not sure what to put.I don't want you to think I expect you to do everything for me.I can't CPR because that would surely indicate I have some knowledge of the alleged account.I was hoping to do this without leaning on you too much but I need your help/advice again.Signaller

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi I am new here I have the same problem with HL legal I received a claim form I responded by email asking for proof or statement they replied back and said they have requested statements and once I receive it I can start filling my defense but on the same date they issued a letter excactly the same as signaller asking for 844 not 499 as per the claim form I have requested 28 days and did say I intend to defend all of this claim I filled it online please help with the defense letter as I have no idea what to write and I do beleive HL legal tried to mislead me with there email and letter thanks

Link to post
Share on other sites

If Sigma have indeed bought your alleged debt, then should they not already have the necessary documents.A question for Andy or DB.

It seems they are trying to buy time in your case and then perhaps go for Judgement by Default.Don't wait for them to send statements etc;, and get your defence in within the required time.You don't say if you actually have/had a debt with Sigma or anyone else.I do not now have, nor have I ever had, any business with EE/T Mobile.

With someones help I would like to start on my defence please.

 

Signaller

Link to post
Share on other sites

If Sigma have indeed bought your alleged debt, then should they not already have the necessary documents.A question for Andy or DB.

It seems they are trying to buy time in your case and then perhaps go for Judgement by Default.Don't wait for them to send statements etc;, and get your defence in within the required time.You don't say if you actually have/had a debt with Sigma or anyone else.I do not now have, nor have I ever had, any business with EE/T Mobile.

With someones help I would like to start on my defence please.

 

Signaller

Thanks for your reply i need to write my defence ASAP but i need help to know what to write the thing i did say to Sigma that i don't have any debt with T-mobile and i asked them to prove it so they sent me an email saying we will request your statements and when you receive it you can fill your defence so thats a proof that i communicated with them then same day there office send me a letter saying that they are disappointed that i didn't reply back to the claim and that i need to pay £844 not £499 so is that what they call a split claim ? is that legal what they did? and i need help to know what to write in my defence i only got few days left please help,

 

thanks

Link to post
Share on other sites

It seems you've had the same letter as me , after I received the claim pack and acknowledged online. As far as I am aware, it only becomes a split claim IF they win in Court, and IF they come after you for the balance. Andyorch is the Sigma expert on here but there are others who offer great advice/help too.I need a little help too, but still have some time before my defence has to be in (12th March).When is your defence due to be in?

 

Signaller

Link to post
Share on other sites

the letter is dated 7 the claim form but i didn't receive it till the 13 i sent an email requesting more information contract and statements within 14 days on the 15 i received an email back and the letter i receive on 22 dated 15 same day as the email so i went online and acknowledgment of service on the 23 so i was still within 14 days and requested 28 days but is it 14 working days or just 14 days ? so how would i know if they going to give me 28 days? thanks nixunited

Link to post
Share on other sites

If the claim is dated 07/02 and you've acknowledged it online, your defence needs to be in by 12th March.I can't help with the wording of your defence as I am waiting myself for the good people here.Be patient though, as there are many of us with issues who need help but they will get to you eventually.Good Luck.

 

Regards

 

Signaller

Link to post
Share on other sites

Any Reply Signaller ? sorry for keep asking i just want to finish from this defence and i got no one to help thanks

 

That could be down to the fact that you have not started your own thread Nix...what date is your defence due?

 

Regards

 

Andy

We could do with some help from you.

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHER

 

Have we helped you ...?         Please Donate button to the Consumer Action Group - The National Consumer Service

If you want advice on your Topic please PM me a link to your thread

Link to post
Share on other sites

You have 33 days in total from the date on the summons so if yours is dated 07/02/13 ...you should have AoS by the 26/02/13 and then your defence is due Monday 11th March 2013.

 

You must start your own thread as we cant advise 2 posters within one thread as it simply gets to complicated.

 

BY all means continue to follow Signallers.

 

Regards

 

Andy

We could do with some help from you.

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHER

 

Have we helped you ...?         Please Donate button to the Consumer Action Group - The National Consumer Service

If you want advice on your Topic please PM me a link to your thread

Link to post
Share on other sites

Bit of a strange coincidence here.Two posters, same claimant,alleged debt assigned on the same day and claim issued same day for the same ammount.The only difference I can see is that Nix DID have business with them at some point.If I did nothing, a judgement would be entered against me for a debt that is not mine.

I doubt it is enough to say that the debt is not mine and that I do not now have,nor have I ever had,any business/dealings with EE/T Mobile.

I cannot find a thread where the defendant has never had any dealings with them.Please can you give me some pointers as to how I defend this.I will put something together over the next couple of days for you to look at.There's still plent of time I suppose before it needs to be in.Thanks for looking in.

 

Signaller

Link to post
Share on other sites

This is a (very) rough draft of what I would say.The ammounts I have made up, apart from what they are claiming, but reflect the different ammounts in the letters received.I will put the correct ammounts in when I submit my defence.Can I please have your thoughts.

....................................................................................................................................................................

 

I, Signaller, am a Litigant in Person and this claim,given the constraints of the bulk system, is frivolous and without merit.I do not now have, nor have I ever had, any business or dealings with the Claimant or the company the alleged debt was assigned from.

 

On 10th January 2013 I received a letter dated 21st December 2012 from the Claimant advising me of an ammount outstanding of £123.45.As I knew nothing of this, I did not acknowledge the letter.

 

On 12th February 2013 I received a claim form issued out of Northampton CCBC for an ammount of £499.99.I acknowledged the claim online on 15th February 2013.

 

On 20th February 2013 I received a letter from the Claimant advising of an ammount outstanding of £345.67.I suggest this is an attempt at a split claim.

 

It is denied that the defendant owes any monies to the Claimant, and the Claimant is put to strict proof to:

a-show how the Defendant has entered into an agreement with Everything Everywhere Limited(T Mobile).

b-show how the Claimant has reached the ammount claimed for;and

c-show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity, to issue a claim.

 

As I have no knowledge of this alleged debt, and no proof has been offered to me, I respectfully request that this matter be struck out.

 

Signaller.

.......................................................................................................................................................................

 

Any thoughts please?

 

Regards

 

Signaller

Link to post
Share on other sites

This is a (very) rough draft of what I would say.The ammounts I have made up, apart from what they are claiming, but reflect the different ammounts in the letters received.I will put the correct ammounts in when I submit my defence.Can I please have your thoughts.

....................................................................................................................................................................

 

I, Signaller, am a Litigant in Person and this claim,given the constraints of the bulk system, is spurious and without merit.I do not now have, nor have I ever had, any business or dealings with the Claimant or the company the alleged debt was assigned from.

 

On 10th January 2013 I received a letter dated 21st December 2012 from the Claimant advising me of an ammount outstanding of £123.45.As I knew nothing of this, I did not acknowledge the letter.

 

On 12th February 2013 I received a claim form issued out of Northampton CCBC for an ammount of £499.99.I acknowledged the claim online on 15th February 2013.

 

On 20th February 2013 I received a letter from the Claimant advising of an ammount outstanding of £345.67.I suggest this is an attempt at a split claim.

 

As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed.

 

It is denied that the defendant owes any monies to the Claimant, and the Claimant is put to strict proof to:

a-show how the Defendant has entered into an agreement with Everything Everywhere Limited(T Mobile).

b-show how the Claimant has reached the ammount claimed for;and

c-show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity, to issue a claim.

 

By reason of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.

 

Signaller.

.......................................................................................................................................................................

 

Any thoughts please?

 

Regards

 

Signaller

 

 

:thumb:

We could do with some help from you.

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHER

 

Have we helped you ...?         Please Donate button to the Consumer Action Group - The National Consumer Service

If you want advice on your Topic please PM me a link to your thread

Link to post
Share on other sites

Thank You Andy.You probably noticed that I borrowed some lines from one or two of your defences. I will submit that and let you know what happens.

 

Regards

 

Signaller

 

ps: can I send you a PM?It's nothing to do with this or any other thread.Just something you could probably answer for me.

Link to post
Share on other sites

No problem fire away Sig.:wink:

We could do with some help from you.

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHER

 

Have we helped you ...?         Please Donate button to the Consumer Action Group - The National Consumer Service

If you want advice on your Topic please PM me a link to your thread

Link to post
Share on other sites

Have submitted my defence and been confirmed as received.The usual waiting game now I suppose. Received an e mail back from admin, saying I don't necessarily have to have a PayPal account.Is there a link to make a donation. I may be having a thick moment as I can't find where to donate.

 

Signaller

Link to post
Share on other sites

" Received an e mail back from admin, saying I don't necessarily have to have a paypal account.Is there a link to make a donation. I may be having a thick moment as I can't find where to donate."

 

Bottom right under the response box.

 

Please consider making a small donation to help keep this site running

Click here to donate through PayPal (opens in a new window)

We could do with some help from you.

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHER

 

Have we helped you ...?         Please Donate button to the Consumer Action Group - The National Consumer Service

If you want advice on your Topic please PM me a link to your thread

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Have we helped you ...?


×
×
  • Create New...