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    • Northmonk forget what I said about your Notice to Hirer being the best I have seen . Though it  still may be  it is not good enough to comply with PoFA. Before looking at the NTH, we can look at the original Notice to Keeper. That is not compliant. First the period of parking as sated on their PCN is not actually the period of parking but a misstatement  since it is only the arrival and departure times of your vehicle. The parking period  is exactly that -ie the time youwere actually parked in a parking spot.  If you have to drive around to find a place to park the act of driving means that you couldn't have been parked at the same time. Likewise when you left the parking place and drove to the exit that could not be describes as parking either. So the first fail is  failing to specify the parking period. Section9 [2][a] In S9[2][f] the Act states  (ii)the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver, the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Your PCN fails to mention the words in parentheses despite Section 9 [2]starting by saying "The notice must—..." As the Notice to Keeper fails to comply with the Act,  it follows that the Notice to Hirer cannot be pursued as they couldn't get the NTH compliant. Even if the the NTH was adjudged  as not  being affected by the non compliance of the NTK, the Notice to Hirer is itself not compliant with the Act. Once again the PCN fails to get the parking period correct. That alone is enough to have the claim dismissed as the PCN fails to comply with PoFA. Second S14 [5] states " (5)The notice to Hirer must— (a)inform the hirer that by virtue of this paragraph any unpaid parking charges (being parking charges specified in the notice to keeper) may be recovered from the hirer; ON their NTH , NPE claim "The driver of the above vehicle is liable ........" when the driver is not liable at all, only the hirer is liable. The driver and the hirer may be different people, but with a NTH, only the hirer is liable so to demand the driver pay the charge  fails to comply with PoFA and so the NPE claim must fail. I seem to remember that you have confirmed you received a copy of the original PCN sent to  the Hire company plus copies of the contract you have with the Hire company and the agreement that you are responsible for breaches of the Law etc. If not then you can add those fails too.
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    • I understand what you mean. But consider that part of the problem, and the frustration of those trying to help, is the way that questions are asked without context and without straight facts. A lot of effort was wasted discussing as a consumer issue before it was mentioned that the property was BTL. I don't think we have your history with this property. Were you the freehold owner prior to this split? Did you buy the leasehold of one half? From a family member? How was that funded (earlier loan?). How long ago was it split? Have either of the leasehold halves changed hands since? I'm wondering if the split and the leashold/freehold arrangements were set up in a way that was OK when everyone was everyone was connected. But a way that makes the leasehold virtually unsaleable to an unrelated party.
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I would be very grateful if someone can help me. I received a Bailiff letter yesterday about a Parking fines that I know of and due to the fact I did not have money, I ignored it. I also received a letter from the Northampthon County Court, and I forgot to send Statutory Declaration form back to the County Court.

 

Now, my query is I am happy to pay the money in installment to the Baillif if they are happy to reduce their charges. I owe only £202.00 including the court fees, but Collect services says that I owe £433.00 with their charges. I have contact Wayne the Bailliff to tell me the break down of the charges. I called him yesterday, he told me that their charges is £175.00, and today he said I have to check the back of the letter sent to me. Having the check the back of it, I can only be charge for £75 as the Baillif charges. I asked him what are the other amount for, and he said 'removal charges '. I have asked him to give me court reference, but he said that it was 'Hounslow Borough' who contacted them to collect the money on their behalf, so he do not have the court reference.

 

1) Do they have power to charge more than the recormended charges by the government?

2) Can I contact the court even though I did not fill the statutory form sent in the first place and without a court reference.

3) Or Should I contact Hounslow Borough about it and asked them to stop the BAILLIFF so that I can pay them in installments ?

 

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1) Do they have power to charge more than the recormended charges by the government?

 

Not sure. I don't think so, but someone else will help on that.

 

2) Can I contact the court even though I did not fill the statutory form sent in the first place and without a court reference.

 

You can only file a statutory declaration on one of three specific grounds (which don't include just ignoring the issue) and even then there would have to be a good reason why you have not done it before the bailiff was instructed. In short, you've almost certainly missed the chance.

 

3) Or Should I contact Hounslow Borough about it and asked them to stop the BAILLIFF so that I can pay them in installments ?

 

You can try, but they will say no.

 

I think you are saddled with it. The amount of charges is the only way I can see to improve the situation for you.

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I have to agree with Jamberson....you are going to have to pay the fine, you could try paying the Court directly in instalments but that could incur you further bailiff charges if they make further visits in the interim periods of payment,

 

As to the bailiff fees as they stand ...if the back of the notice tells you the max is £75 to bailiff fees, then to be quite frank I would be looking to beg,borrow or steal the £277 that will stop further charges being added???

 

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Ok guys. I have agreed to pay the amount of that money with this guy, but I have never met this guy (Bailiff), we have been communicating on the phone. He told me that I can pay with my direct debit to him on the date that I set to pay this money. Do you guys think I need to see him before I pay ? Do I have to know if he is a real guy ?

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If you are paying the Bailiff Company (you should never ever pay an individual bailiff) then they should provide details to enable you to set up a direct debit, however that does put them in the position to take what they like when they like. If you read the threads on various sections of cag, you will see that is exactly what they do without your consent. Personally I think you would be better placed to set up a standing order and keep control to the payments in your own hands?

 

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Do you still have the car that was used when you were issued with this PCN and if so, how much is it worth?

 

Yeah, I still have the car. May be the car worth £500 ? It is a Peugeot 206 (2001) .

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