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Hi guys, ill make this brief ( makes for less boring read) and try and make this non confusing.. as much as i can..Ok.. basically.. we book hotel/venue for wedding last year for this august.. hotel was owner then buy "brooks Hotels"..this hotel along with a few others (ive now found out) were then sold off to a sister company (same director) called "albermarle Hotels No.2"Albermarle on the 3rd of may went under..thats it Folks shows over.. wedding dead..thank you ****ing very much!!..heres the crazy bit that ****ing me off.. money was paid to the hotel (White hall in broxted Essex)the recepit they gave me was headed on Brooks hotels paper.. but my bank statement says a different company name called Brompton Hotels ltd.. again the same director of brooks and the ex director of albermarle as he left just after they took over Whitehall i believe..ok questions.. is what theyve done illegal? it sounds like embezzlement??!P.S.. im going through liquidators and claiming debt owed and also my bank in twriting to get visa chargeback on my debit card.Any advice from directors/solicitors or fellow downtrodden parties welcome

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Brompton Hotels is still trading as of today and the director is the same as the director of Brook hotels. This Gentleman has 14 companies of which he is euther the current director or ex director as they have gone into liquidation.

What has happened is not sadly illegal as every day I deal with companies that when cash flow becomes a problem they fold the company and start another, however you may have some comeback against Brompton Hotels if this is who your money was paid to.

Albermarle were in profit last year so there may be some money/assets in the kitty

Do you know who the current owners of The White Hall are? are they conected with any of these previous companies.

Most importantly have you got a new venue sorted?

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Hi A-B,First wana say thanks for your help very appreciated, yes ive heard they can do this time and time again.. ltd apparnelty means limit the damage lol..... yeah my money really did go to brompton my bank statment says so in black and white, yet i paid this white hall hotel which was not owned by them (bropmpton) at any point, what would be my best bet? letter demanding my money back??? Yes my amazing and very resourseful future wife has been on the case like bridezilla. getting quotes, cutting deals and dragging me along to view a ton of venues, and i think weve got one..(phew)

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Nothing to loose in trying a letter asking for your money back you never know, also you said you were trying a chargeback with your bank are you getting anywhere with that? Did you have insurance? or do you have house insurance that may have free legal attached? Although this company had assets and a post tax profit 12 months ago i bet you any money you like it has all dissappeared prior to folding so the liquidators may well have nothing to share out.

I am not sure how but i have a feeling that even though it is a ltd company there may be a way of chasing an individual director where he has set up a new company when there is a connection, for example if he had a co called a hotel Ltd and and owned the green man and a hotel went bust but he opened a comapnt called A Hotel 2 and that company then owned the green man then there is a continuity and relationship and I think there is somthing that can be looked at in these circumstances.

If you have got cover then speak to a solicitor and see if you have any other options.

However the most important thing is that wedding is still on, obviously you would like to get your money back but dont hold your breath for getting it anytime soon and dont let it overshadow your wedding.

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well, i have given my bank 14daysd to respond to me in full, so heres hoping they give me a claim form, or i will really kick up a stick about that issue, we werent even aware of wedding insuracne until this all happened, silly i know but no one mentioned it etc?! yeah i may go to the CAB and see if they can help me still? and i can write a letter to brompton..infact i will and make it for the directors attention .. like you said cant hurt.. yeah im not holding my breath but i guess im a lil raw about idea of this...person.. breathing a sigh of relief as they legally steal money and no one will even look over at it.. ahh the power of the loophole huh... once again thanks.. :)

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Good luck I am sure someone else will have other suggestions but if you throw enough mud at a wall some will stick so i would try every avenue you can. As you said you are not holding your breath about the money so you wont be devestated if it dosnt pan out but its worth a try. I will try and track down what my company are using to chase associated directors and see if its of any help.

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