'No Parking Sign on private land - by that I mean OUR land

[EzyChic]

Hi Guys,

 

I'm a wee bit angry! About 18 months ago we bought a new build house! It has a garage, but the garage is attached to a coach house. Our garage is right at the end and against the wall and so we have a long drive as there is no need for anyone to drive behind us. So my husband tends to park on the drive and I park behind him or vice versa. I'm not 100% sure where the drive ends and where it is a 'public road' but even if it is a public road by parking there the only person it could possibly block is me or my husband.

 

Since the coach house was sold (about 4 months after we bought our house) we have had nothing but problems with them. They are young, but that's no excuse. Firstly they demanded part payment of their buildings insurance because our garage formed part of 'their' building. And then we got letters dictating what we could and coudn't keep in our garage. I was livid and wanted to fight it, but my husband looked at the deeds and saw it did indeed say they were entitled to ask for 1/6th of the buildings insurance for the garage - he paid it - behind my back - I was willing to fight it but he just wants a quiet life.

 

Last week we got a knock on the door asking if my friend (who had just popped over for a chat) could move her car as it was parked behind mine and was obstructiong them - I really don't see how it was, but, my friend moved it anyway - even she came back and was confused as to what the problem was.

 

Tonight my husband has come home and there is a sign right behind out drive, next to my car saying 'no parking', the land it is refering to is either OUR land or, public land - it certainly isn't theres. Tempting as it is to rip it down I'd rather do the right thing. I can grab the plans and see if it is on our drive - but then what, do I go to the police and say someone has vandalised our land? If it is public land do I contact the council?

 

I am so angry but do not want to be hasty, and want to be the grown up here.

 

What do you guys suggest?

 

Thanks in advance - sorry if I missed anything or if I'm in the wrong place - I could be wrong as to who put it up - but someone has.

 

Am I right in thinking that no one has any right to do that?

 

Thanks

 

Sam

[green_and_mean]

I don't see why you are so angry apart from the parking episode you are in the wrong, you should have checked the deeds when you moved in getting angry with your new neighbours because they are asking for money you legally owe them is hardly going to foster a good relationship is it?

[citizenB]

If it is your land, then they have no right to put up a No Parking sign and neither do they if it is Public Land, I would think.

 

I guess the first thing you need to do is establish just whose land it is.. then take it from there

 

A friend once said to me if we were allowed to own guns as they do in America.. we would end up shooting one another over parking !!

[EzyChic]

Just checked... it's our land... you wouldn't be angry if someone put a sign up at the end of your drive of your house saying 'no parking'? You're a calmer person then I am

[EzyChic]

Citizen, I don't know why they would have a problem with us putting our car on our drive on our land blocking no one but us.

[Gbarbm]

Hi Ezychic,

I always say if you're going to fire a gun make sure there are bullets in it.

So how to get those bullets.... Well for a start you can claim adverse usage which in laymans terms is possession is 9/10ths of the law. Check with land registry what the actual boundaries are and ring the council to check the position regarding any rights of way. If you want to further this i would advise you that you will be in it for the long haul, you will need a specialist boundary dispute lawyer.

So go and get those bullets and post back here with the details.

Kind regards

Gbarbm

[Conniff]

I can't see they have just decided to put a sign up. They must have had some information to say they could, right or wrong.

[EzyChic]

They're firing guns, not me, what can they do if we park there - nothing! What am I now gonna do? Park there

[green_and_mean]

They're firing guns, not me, what can they do if we park there - nothing! What am I now gonna do? Park there

 

All I can say is thank god you are not my neighbour!

[EzyChic]

All I can say is thank god you are not my neighbour!

 

????? You would put a sign up on your neighbours land saying no parking and then be p*ssed off when they parked there?

 

We have parked there since the house was built, it's our drive!

 

Or - you would stop parking on your drive because someone put a sign up telling you you couldn't park there? (when you have paid £250k for your house).

[dx100uk]

just pin a copy of the deeds on the notice

 

dx

[green_and_mean]

We have parked there since the house was built, it's our drive!

 

 

Just as its your garage but you refused to pay the insurance on it when asked and still think you shouldn't despite the fact the deeds you signed when you moved in said you should? If my neighbours put up a sign I would speak to them and ask what the issue was not waste my time slagging them off on a website.

[Jamberson]

I think the advice in post 6 is spot on. Stay calm for now, do a bit of research, and if you are satisfied that you have free use of that land and it's none of their business, and you're not causing some kind of problem for them, put it in writing to them, rip down the sign and you're OK again. (It might be a bit optimistic to think you will remain on friendly terms with them though.)

 

Assuming you are all clear to park there, you may also consider fencing it off somehow.

[EzyChic]

Just as its your garage but you refused to pay the insurance on it when asked and still think you shouldn't despite the fact the deeds you signed when you moved in said you should? If my neighbours put up a sign I would speak to them and ask what the issue was not waste my time slagging them off on a website.

 

What can I say other then you seem so chilled out! If I'm ever around your way I will live free in the knowledge that I can put signs up on your property indicating what you can and cannot do.

[green_and_mean]

What can I say other then you seem so chilled out! If I'm ever around your way I will live free in the knowledge that I can put signs up on your property indicating what you can and cannot do.

 

Feel free!

[EzyChic]

Hi Ezychic,

I always say if you're going to fire a gun make sure there are bullets in it.

So how to get those bullets.... Well for a start you can claim adverse usage which in laymans terms is possession is 9/10ths of the law. Check with land registry what the actual boundaries are and ring the council to check the position regarding any rights of way. If you want to further this i would advise you that you will be in it for the long haul, you will need a specialist boundary dispute lawyer.

So go and get those bullets and post back here with the details.

Kind regards

Gbarbm

 

Hi, already checked the land details as we have them here (we got a copy with the house). By rights or way do you mean they may need it for access? Not at all - our garage is in the corner. right up the side of it is a wall (which we park against), perpendicular to that wall is ours and next doors garden gate and a wall. it's a complete dead end. The only people that would ever need to access it is us.

 

I was just wondering whether we should just pull the sign down or whether we should make them remove it and repair the damage they have done to the wall (the deeds show it as ours).

 

Will contact planning tomorrow and the local council to double check - if for whatever reason it is on council land will see what they suggest re removal - as in do we do it or do they.

[sailor sam]

Maybe this is in the wrong forum? Seems to me that it is a property issue rather than a transport one.

[EzyChic]

Just checked with a mate who is a conveyencing solicitor - he says no rights at all to put the sign up. Contact the council re: removal so we can't be accused of theft.

[EzyChic]

Maybe this is in the wrong forum? Seems to me that it is a property issue rather than a transport one.

 

Hi, thought parking as it was a random parking sign - propert isn't in question. Not to worry will see what the best action for removal is tomorrow.

[Gbarbm]

Hi Ezychic

Let us know what the council say....oh and one other thing, I note you said your property was a new build, do you have any documentation from the developer which may give details regarding the coach house?

[EzyChic]

Hi Ezychic

Let us know what the council say....oh and one other thing, I note you said your property was a new build, do you have any documentation from the developer which may give details regarding the coach house?

 

Hi,

what kind of documentation?

 

I think TBH they were told a load of lies by the sales guys and STILL don't see they were taken for a ride. I remember ages ago them mentioning not parking where we were (as in on our drive) as they wanted to put two cars on their drive like the sales girls said they could. And if we kept parking on our drive they would be blocking us in - I remember being baffled as to how anyone could imagine getting two cars there without blocking access to what was quite clearly our drive.

[EzyChic]

Hi Ezychic

Let us know what the council say....oh and one other thing, I note you said your property was a new build, do you have any documentation from the developer which may give details regarding the coach house?

 

 

What kind of documentation?

[Gbarbm]

Hi

Not sure really...just wondered if you were supplied with any details by them

[sailor sam]

Just checked with a mate who is a conveyencing solicitor - he says no rights at all to put the sign up. Contact the council re: removal so we can't be accused of theft.

 

Does he specialise in parking matters then? Sorry but in my opinion this is a property dispute. Parking regulations (private or otherwise) have nothing to do with this unless someone has been clamped or issued with a 'parking charge notice'.

[citizenB]

What kind of documentation?

 

 

Deeds and the like.

 

I think initially this was a parking issue.. regardless of whether it was not to do with fines or clamping.

 

IMHO, it is slightly irrelevant because the OP has attracted comment/advice.