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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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Hi,

 

Is anyone aware of the above two companies being linked? I applied at mrlender and was redirected to paycheckcredit who apparently are a sister company of toothfairy finance.

 

I was accepted for the loan and told the money would be transferred in a few minutes. This was 45 mins ago and still nothing. I had 3 texts and an email asking me to complete my card details and enter the code sent to mobile so that they can send my money but since I did this, I've heard nothing.

 

I am worried that I have been conned, please somebody help! I checked my bank just though, and only the 1p validity has been taken.

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its fine.... but my thoughts are dont deal with the clowns.... :( , they can be vicious in their DCA Cycle.

What is slightly worrying is the MCO Capital Ltd bit at the bottom of the page... If Memory serves me correctly, google MCO capital ltd and you see over £3 million was defrauded from a similar company... :(

 

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Hey fkofilee thanks I got emails and a text this morning at 9.09am saying the money had been transferred. It says on their website transfer takes 2-3 mins but it is not there. Do I ring them up or has anyone else had to wait more than the "few mins" I am with Santander bank.

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i think quite personally youll blowing hot air... ask santander first via their Phone banking whether you have any transfers waiting to go in... if not then contact MCO / TFF...but prepare for rude advisers.

 

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my only advice is to take action by contacting them, ignoring them is the worst thing you can do at this moment.... are you sure you gave them the correct SC / ACCNo ?

Also did you think about what type of account you have with them? I know depending on SC's, they can delay payments.

 

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hmmmm mr lender.... i swear he is just an affiliate 100% of the time although he claims to be a lender... meh not much you can doe abov

all i suggest is the above, Santander then TFF

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Hi guys,

I am still receiving emails saying that they are sending bailiffs to my house. Which is lies as this debt was only due about ten days ago and certainly is not a CCJ. I have sent several emails to them stating that I will pay in full and offering good monthly payments. They just ignore me and then carry on sending their threats and adding charges. What do I do please? Here is a copy of one sent today to me from paycheckcredit. Pay attention to the part after a,b,c,d,e,f. I will hide the personal info....

 

Ref ID: XXXXXXXX

 

08/01/2012

 

 

Mr XXXXXXX

 

Ref Loan: XXXXXXX - 01.12.11 - Sum outstanding GBP 477

 

We have made a number of attempts to contact you by email and SMS to discuss the outstanding balance on the short-term loan you took out on 01.12.11 and you have made no effort to resolve these enquiries satisfactorily.

 

We have also warned you in advance of additional charges you have incurred.

 

As we make clear to all our customers our product is intended to be a short term financial solution. If the loan is extended this product can become expensive.

 

As we have not heard from you and not received payment we have been left with no alternative and are writing to advise you that this debt will be passed on to our Debt Collections Agency in the next 24 hours.

 

As per the terms of the contract between Pa yCheckCredit and yourself (see http://www.paycheckcredit.co.uk/terms.html) instructing the Debt Collections Team will add a further GBP 150 to the balance you owe. Debt recovery agents will call at the addresses we have on file for you until they are able to successfully collect the sums you owe. If our debt recovery agents, after a reasonable attempt at the addresses on file, cannot successfully recover the monies owed by you, we will issue a claim against you in the County Court for the outstanding balance plus the further charges and recovery costs that have been incurred.

 

You should be aware that a County Court Judgement against your name will remain for 6 years on the National Credit Records (NCR) accessed by employers, insurers and banks and may result in:-

 

a) difficulties in obtaining future credit

b) any current employers being informed so an application against your earnings can be issued

c) difficulty in securing future employm ent due to an adverse credit history and credit score

d) difficulties in obtaining a mortgage

e) being questioned at a County Court as to your financial circumstances

f) a Warrant of Execution and bailiffs being instructed

 

We will apply for a County Court Judgement followed by a Warrant of Execution and a Bailiff order to seize goods from your addresses to be issued simultaneously to the County Court Judgement. This Warrant authorises Certificated Bailiffs to seize goods at the addresses held on file for you (including what may be your family home). These goods will be taken and put up for sale at public auction until the total amount you owe is satisfied.

 

The initial cost of issuing a County Court Judgement is GBP 45, this will be charged to your account on the date of issue.

The further court costs including solicitors time, application for a Warrant of Execution and the appointment of Bailiffs will also be added to what you owe.

 

As you can see this will ultimately cost you a great deal more if you do not deal with this matter now.

 

It will also cause you a great deal of difficulty for many years to come.

 

We strongly recommend that you settle this amount immediately to limit further costs, preserve your credit rating and your ability to gain full time employment.

 

Please immediately pay 477 by either:

 

1) Paying online by visiting http://www.paycheckcredit.co.uk and clicking Pay Now;

or

2) Make a bank transfer for GBP 477 to:

Barclays Bank

Account number 93462382

Sort code 20-50-94

Ref: Use your mobile number (XXXXXXXXXXX) as a reference so we can match it correctly

 

ALSO please EMAIL us confirming that this has been done to stop the debt being passed to the Debt Collection Team and further charges being incurred.

 

If you ignore this and our debt recovery agency is instructed it will be a short matter of time before the CCJ is issued and Bailiffs are instructed to seize goods.

 

We look forward to hearing from you confirming a speedy resolution of this matter.

 

If you have already repaid and this is not reflected in the above statement please contact us so we can investigate this further and correct your file.

 

Kind regards

 

 

 

Pay Check Credit - Legal Recovery Team

t: 0843 81 81 81

ïï€ Please consider the environment before you print this email.

_____________________________________________________________________

 

NOTICE

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threads merged

please keep to one thread on same issues

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I was daft enough to get involved with these people in November last year and was unable to repay the loan. I have repeatedly offered them monthly part payments and have numerous threats from them, by text, email and phone, which i am collating and am going to send to the OFT, who i believe gave them a bit of a kicking in 2010.

 

I shall copy and paste the latest one below:

 

This is a reminder that you committed to pay back your Take Out Cash debt.

 

This debt is now very overdue. We have allowed you to extend the loan as a goodwill gesture.

 

As part of settling this debt you are committed to paying GBP 480 by 10.01.2012.

 

In accordance wih the Standard Terms and Conditions you agreed to, we will be automatically taking payment tomorrow as agreed. Please ensure the amount of GBP 480 is available by midnight tonight.

 

If there are insufficient funds in the account the payment might fail and all charges will IMMEDIATELY become due, ALL back dated interest, penalty fees will be charged.

Recovery Agents will be sent to all addresses we have on file for you in order to obtain payment. Should this also prove unsuccessful we will be liaising with soli citors who will obtain a County Court Judgement against you. Once this is secured we will return with a Warrant of Execution from the County Court and certified Court Bailiffs to seize goods at 9 times the value of what you owe.

 

IT IS ESSENTIAL you HONOUR this agreement

 

If you have any questions regarding this, or willbe unable to pay contact customer services NOW.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

I'm no legal expert, but much of that letter appears to be complete nonsense, and that's not even including the fact that when i phoned them I was told it was the full sum or else. Now they have apparently agreed to a repayment proposal that was never made.

 

Due to a number of debts, I am looking into a DAS, which i believe will legally prevent these companies (NDR, Toothfairy, Take Out Cash and the "Bailliffs" they threaten people with and are all registered at the same address) from contacting me, although I have no doubt they will continue to send threats.

 

They also seems to specialise is sending numerous letters to debtors, stating different things. ON Friday past i received SIX letters, with three varying amounts. Last month I was repeatedly told that they had added fees for passing to NDR etc, giving a total debt of £1255 (on an initial loan of £400). Today i received three letters all stating i was due them £775. So my question is this: Which amount do I declare to the DAS advisor? Or do i just let them decide?

 

I would also advise anyone else having problems with them not to deal with them on the phone. I had a few phone calls from some guy called Greg who threatened me with Bailliffs the next day, and on being asked how he was managing to send Bailliffs out prior to a court decision, he became rather abusive, and started banging on about "door agents" turning up at my work, goods being seized etc etc. I wish i'd recorded the call.

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