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Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. 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In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
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28th Feb 2011

Dear Sirs and/or Madam.

Please find our bill of costs of youraborted appeal hearing at Winchester Court before HH Judge Hughes on 10thFeb 2011.

1. The defendants costs anddisbursements of your negligently brought and aborted case

I claim my costs in your recent erredaction against me as per SECTION 22.1 and I claim for time spent anddisbursements under the following.

The costs will be no more than two thirds of the sum which asolicitor could reasonably have charged for doing the work (CPR Section 48(6).

22.5 Calculation of Disbursements

Our Costs are made up accordingly

A: COSTS

Preparation for 1st hearing13/04/2010 2 ½ hours @ £136.00 per hour(1st defendant) £340.00

2hours @ £136.00 per hour (2nd defendant) £272.00

2hours @ £136.00 per hour (3rd defendant) £272.00

Total6.5 hours

(Seeking advice from solicitors) 1.5hours@ £136.00 per hour (2nd D) £204.00

1hour @ £136.00 per hour (3rd D) £136.00

Total2.5 hours

Attendance at 1st hearing13/04/2010 4 hours @ £136.00 per hour(1st D)

4hours @ £136.00 per hour (2nd D)

4hours @ £136.00 per hour (3rd D)

Total12 hours

£1,632.00

Completing & filing application forappeal hearing (To have case struck out under CPR rules) 21/04

1 ½ hours @ £136.00 per hour (alldefendants) £204.00

Preparation and research for grounds toappeal and preparation of skeleton argument for appeal hearing 21/04/2010 (Varji)

Total6 hours @ £136.00 per hour (2nd D) £816.00

Attendance at appeal hearing 24/05/2010

4hours @ £136.00 (1st D) £544.00

4hours @ £136.00 (2nd D) £544.00

4hours @ £136.00 (3rd D) £544.00

Total12 hours

£1632.00

Completing and filing application toappeal erred decision of J Varji 15/06/10

Total6 hours @ £136.00 per hour(1st D) £816.00

Preparation for hearing for permissionto appeal decision of Varji 15/06/2010

2 hours @ £136.00 per hour(2ndD)

2 hours @ £136.00 per hour (3rdD)

Total4 hours

£ 544.00

Application and service on (claimantssolicitors & Courts) for permission to appeal the equally erred decision ofJ Hughes 14/07/2010.

Total1 ½ hours @ £136.00 (1st D) £204.00

Preparation for hearing (J Willis)02/07/2010)

6hours @ £136.00 per hour (1st D)

4hours @ £136.00 per hour (2nd D)

2 hours @ £136.00 perhour (3rd D)

Total12 hours £1632.00

Attendance at hearing 02/07/2010

4hours @ £136.00 (1st D)

4hours @ £136.00 (2nd D)

4hours @ £136.00 (3rd D)

Total12 hours £1632.00

Preparation of witness statement’s/documents and evidence as ordered: J Willis 02/07/2010 for hearing bundle

19hours @ £136.00 (1st D)

15hours @ £136.00 (2nd D)

6hours @ £136.00 (3rd D)

Total40 hours £5440.00

Meetings with (MP) Mr Robert Buckland(discussion over legality of claimant’s purported injunction, advice

04/06/20102 hour @ £136.00 per hour (1st D)

04/06/20102 hour @ £136.00 per hour (2nd D)

Further discussion with MP (legalityover rights to use steps)

16/07/20101 hour

16/07/20101hour

Meeting at Swindon Council offices withR Blur and Legal Department representative.

28/06/20102 hours @ £136.00 per hour (1st D)

28/06/20102 hours @ £136.00 per hour (2nd D)

Meeting at MP R. Buckland offices 10/12/2010 2 hour @ £136.00 per hour (1stD)

Meeting with MP Buckland in relation tofurther evidence

04/02/2010 2 hours @ £136.00 per hour (1st D)

2 hours @ £136.00 per hour (2nd D)

Total16 hours = £2176.00

Total time for meeting with counsel 6hours @ £136.00 per hour (1stdefendant)

Total time for meeting with counsel 6hours @ £136.00 per hour (2ndDefendant)

Total12 hours £1632.00

Total of 144hrs @ £136 ph= £19,584.00

B: DISBURSEMENTS

Application fee notice to appeal21/04/2010. £120.00

Application fee for oral hearing forleave to appeal Judge Varji erred decision

15/06/2010 £75.00

Application fee for leave to appeal HHJudge Hughes QC, erred decision

14/07/2010 £40.00

Total= £235.00

Travel to Keating Chambers London tomeet with counsel.

From Swindon to Hammersmith London 77mlseach way = 154mls @ .60p per mile £ 92.40

Parking at Hammersmith 4 hours £2.80 perhour (1st D) £ 11.20

Photo copies of documents, witnessstatements/ evidence for 1st defendant

Colour: 9x 4@£1.00 per sheet £ 36.00

Colour: 45 @ £1.00 per sheet (Copies forcounsel) £ 45.00

Black and white: 202 x 4 @ 25p persheet £ 202.00

Black & white: 71 @ 25p per sheet(Copies for counsel) £ 17.75

Photocopying of documents, statement,evidence for 2nd defendant

Colour: 23 x 4 = 92@ £1.00 persheet £92.00

Black & white 8 x 4 = 32 @.25p per sheet £ 8.00

Photocopies of documents, statements /evidencefor 3rd defendant

Colour16@ £1.00 per sheet £ 16.00

Black& white 40 @ .25 per sheet £ 10.00

Cost of Mr. Mort’s train fare to attendhearing Winchester 22/08/2010: £ 46.80

Cost to access PNC records (evidencerelating to your clients false allegations)

1st + 2ndDefendant’s £ 20.00

Preparation of bill of costs 2 ½ hours @£136.00 per hour (1st D) £340.00

Preparation of bill of costs 2 ½ hours @£136.00 per hour (2nd D) £340.00

Preparation of bill of costs 2 ½ hours @£136.00 per hour (3rd D) £340.00

Total disbursements £1,852.15

A + B Grand Total £21,436.15

As per your solicitor’s request we haveeach had to waste even more of our time adding and calculating our losses causedby you/your solicitors incorrectly started action, and failure to answer anyquestions and requests from our barrister. ie; failure to commence proceedings.

As your solicitors have in the pastshown negligence in understanding the Civil Procedural Rules. I have for all yourbenefit reproduced the relevant rule here.

And Rule five (5) covers the train fare asour counsel had represented two defendants at Winchester CC.

Litigants in person

48.6

(1) This rule applies where the courtorders (whether by summary assessment or detailed assessment) that the costs ofa litigant in person are to be paid by another person.

(2) The costs allowed under this rule must not exceed, except in thecase of a disbursement, two-thirds of the amount which would have been allowedif the litigant in person had been represented by a legal representative.

That’s means you or your negligent solicitors have to pay 2.3rds ofyour negligent solicitors Fees of £205 per hour.

(3) The litigant in person shall be allowed – (please notethat SHALL is the operative word)

(a) Costs for the same categories of –

(i) Work;and

(ii) Disbursements,

Which would have been allowed if thework had been done or the disbursements had been made by a legal representativeon the litigant in person's behalf;

(b) The payments reasonably made by himfor legal services relating to the conduct of the proceedings; and

© The costs of obtaining expertassistance in assessing the costs claim.

(4) The amount of costs to be allowed tothe litigant in person for any item of work claimed shall be.

(a) Where the litigant can provefinancial loss, the amount that he can prove he has lost for time reasonablyspent on doing the work; or

(b) Where the litigant cannot provefinancial loss, an amount for the time reasonably spent on doing the work atthe rate set out in the Costs Practice Direction.

(5) A litigant who is allowed costs forattending at court to conduct his case is not entitled to a witness allowancein respect of such attendance in addition to those costs.

(6) For the purposes of this rule, alitigant in person includes –

(a) A company or other corporation whichis acting without a legal representative; and

(b) a barrister, solicitor, solicitor’semployee, manager of a body recognized under section 9 of the Administration ofJustice Act 1985 or a person who, for the purposes of the Legal Services Act2007, is an authorized person in relation to an activity which constitutes theconduct of litigation (within the meaning of that Act) who is acting forhimself.

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Eeek! ok

 

If you claim the amount of £136 per hour then no opposing solicitor is going to agree without a fight and possibly an appeal IF the judge sides with you.

 

The Litigant rate is £9.26 an hour and that is the amount you should be charging them per hour if you want this settled outside of court, unfortunately you've given them this list already so you cant even increase the hours to push up the totals now as they know how many hours were claimed for :(

 

CPR states:

An amount which is normally calculated at a prescribed hourly rate, currently £9.25 per hour, for time spent by a litigant in person on case preparation including any work which might properly be charged for by a solicitor. This is subject to a ceiling of two-thirds of the amount which would have been allowed to a solicitor for doing such work

So in my understanding they are allowing you to spend more time at the hourly rate of £9.25 than it would take a professional @ £200+ per hour to undertake the work, the balance is charging more hours at a lower rate to get to that 2/3 amount.

 

 

Just my opinion tho and if you feel happy arguing it in front of a judge then thats the way I feel you will have to take this.

 

S.

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We have now passed it all to a costs draughtsperson. If they want to find that I didnt claim for extra hours I,m happy.

 

After all I,m just a LIP.

 

But argue it we will.

 

They bit that helps me the most is the case listed above. It is achievable and I will post when it,s done and the monies are in the Mrs purse.

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We have now passed it all to a costs draughtsperson. If they want to find that I didnt claim for extra hours I,m happy.

 

After all I,m just a LIP.

 

But argue it we will.

 

They bit that helps me the most is the case listed above. It is achievable and I will post when it,s done and the monies are in the Mrs purse.

 

No probs, best of luck.

 

S.

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Having read all the posts I still refer to my earlier posts where i believe that the most a LiP can claim is £9.25 per hour upto a maximum of 2/3 of what a solictor would charge (prob between £150 - £200 ph), I dont agree with the case where someone claimed £136 per hour (as this was 2/3 of an HOURLY rate) but to be honest CPR isnt exactly clear on the isssue but I'm sure there must be case law.

 

Anyway it appears that the OP is a bit miffed because he can only charge a LiP ratye compared to the other side's solicitor rate of £200 (or whatever it is). It does seem unfair but thats the way the law is, either side is free to employ the services of a solicitor or not, another way of looking at is is that you as a LiP have got little to lose (personally cost wise) whereas the other side that employs a solicitor has to pay the solicitors costs and should he lose he would also have to pay you your original claim amount, so there are pros and cons both sides.

 

Personally in my case I was facing a bill of perhaps £10k should I have lost, as the defendant had employed solicitors and counsel, but just before the court ,date, I suspect that the defendant didnt want to risk spending £10k on a solicitor and losing so he offered to settle which suited me.

 

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Ok. Ive read the pdf posted on here and surely all that does is confirm the view point that I (and others) have posted, the Judge states:-

What led Dyson LJ to give leave to this court was his fear that Collins J had not taken into account

what should have been the right approach to a litigant in person. If one reads together 48.6(2) and

(4) one sees that, in principle, a litigant in person is entitled to compensation for his time, and the

rate is fixed by Statutory Instrument and at all relevant times was £9.25 per hour. But there is a cap

which is that however long a litigant spends in person doing things he cannot recover more than,

broadly speaking, two-thirds of what his legal representatives would have done if he had had a

lawyer.

 

Which seems correct, the original judge Collins J seems like an idiot with no knowledge of costs for LiP person, £120 thats laughable !!... good to see the claimant he ended up with over £10,000 which would appear correct working on the basis of 1200 hours (including reasearch) x £9.25.

 

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OK thanks for that I will now tell the costs draughsperson to add all my research. Thats another 500hrs.

 

Would I be able to claim for a wasted costs order as well or is it one or the other?

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Just to put the record straight. The Solicitors Regulation Authority definately deal with complaints about the opponent's solicitor if it's about professional misconduct. It appears to me that dealing with you in the manner that he has you should report him. Letters, letters, letters, not telephone conversations.

 

I reported a solicitor for the other side to the SRA, causes the errant solicitor a lot of paperwork and if complaints stack up serious things happen. Man from Swindon will not be happy with this and may have had previous complaints made. It's true that you won't receive compensation but it will cause him the grief he deserves.

 

Your anger is understandable but unfortunately until you start thinking like they do (i.e. the professionals) you will not understand their tactics. Think of it as a game of chess. It is only my opinion but it appears that this man from Swindon is trying to scare you off. Follow up with letters and rule number one NEVER, NEVER, NEVER telephone them no matter how frustrated you are.

 

Most importantly CALM DOWN!

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Thanks for the replies and support guys.

 

I have to go to work now but when I,v finnished I will put up a letter sent to them by the Probono which lists the way this case was handled.

 

I also think he deserves his own special mentioning on the Solicitors From Hell website :)

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And like advised, you complain in writing to the SRA, keep doing so, he deseeves it.

Although youve already shown your hand in hours, IMHO, you have a hell of a lot of research hours that need to be factored in to your costs. So, work out how much each part of the law cost you in time. ( it'll be more than the 500 youve just quoted I'm sure).

Then if this turd squeeks about it, explain to court that you have since researched the LIP statutes and realised that your research can be included.

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Hi there. For those of you who gave advice thanks and here is an update.

 

I got my costs at £20, although an accountant had given writen evidence to say that I had earned £25 net. I got all my expences, printing fee,s etc and interest. Others got a lesser rate but the new higher rate for all work done after the new rates came in.

 

The smarmy ****** then tried to hand over at the end of the hearing a letter claiming £1500 for the costs of attending a hearing were I had claimed the full 2/3rds rate.

 

I threw it back at him as did all the others only mine came with vengance. I told the judge that there was no way that I would allow this fool to be paid this from the money he owed us as the very reason for all the trials and tribulations was because of his negligence.

 

The judge then asked if we had seen this document previously, to which I said, youve just seen him hand it to me and yourself, so how could we have seen it before. He then ponderd and anounced that it wouldnt be accepted as it should have been given to all parties atleast 24hrs before.

 

This was the mode of opperadi for the whole of the case, documents would be given just before entering for a hearing, changing the claim, for which we had spent week preparing for, and then i twould all changed.

 

Anyway that parts delt with.

 

Now I would like to know if I can now sue the errant morron for damages for the negligence in the way he ran the case and the two heart attacks I had due to his negligence.

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