Jump to content


  • Tweets

  • Posts

    • I have just read the smaller print on their signs. It says that you can pay at the end of your parking session. given that you have ten minutes grace period the 35 seconds could easily have been taken up with walking back to your car, switching on the engine and then driving out. Even in my younger days when I used to regularly exceed speed limits, I doubt I could have done that in 35 seconds even when I  had a TR5.
    • Makers of insect-based animal feed hope to be able to compete with soybeans on price.View the full article
    • Thank you for posting up the results from the sar. The PCN is not compliant with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4. Under Section 9 [2][a] they are supposed to specify the parking time. the photographs show your car in motion both entering and leaving the car park thus not parking. If you have to do a Witness Statement later should they finally take you to Court you will have to continue to state that even though you stayed there for several hours in a small car park and the difference between the ANPR times and the actual parking period may only be a matter of a few minutes  nevertheless the CEL have failed to comply with the Act by failing to specify the parking period. However it looks as if your appeal revealed you were the driver the deficient PCN will not help you as the driver. I suspect that it may have been an appeal from the pub that meant that CEL offered you partly a way out  by allowing you to claim you had made an error in registering your vehicle reg. number . This enabled them to reduce the charge to £20 despite them acknowledging that you hadn't registered at all. We have not seen the signs in the car park yet so we do not what is said on them and all the signs say the same thing. It would be unusual for a pub to have  a Permit Holders Only sign which may discourage casual motorists from stopping there. But if that is the sign then as it prohibits any one who doesn't have a permit, then it cannot form a contract with motorists though it may depend on how the signs are worded.
    • Defence and Counterclaim Claim number XXX Claimant Civil Enforcement Limited Defendant XXXXXXXXXXXXX   How much of the claim do you dispute? I dispute the full amount claimed as shown on the claim form.   Do you dispute this claim because you have already paid it? No, for other reasons.   Defence 1. The Defendant is the recorded keeper of XXXXXXX  2. It is denied that the Defendant entered into a contract with the Claimant. 3. As held by the Upper Tax Tribunal in Vehicle Control Services Limited v HMRC [2012] UKUT 129 (TCC), any contract requires offer and acceptance. The Claimant was simply contracted by the landowner to provide car-park management services and is not capable of entering into a contract with the Defendant on its own account, as the car park is owned by and the terms of entry set by the landowner. Accordingly, it is denied that the Claimant has authority to bring this claim. 4. In any case it is denied that the Defendant broke the terms of a contract with the Claimant. 5. The Claimant is attempting double recovery by adding an additional sum not included in the original offer. 6. In a further abuse of the legal process the Claimant is claiming £50 legal representative's costs, even though they have no legal representative. 7. The Particulars of Claim is denied in its entirety. It is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief at all. Signed I am the Defendant - I believe that the facts stated in this form are true XXXXXXXXXXX 01/05/2024   Defendant's date of birth XXXXXXXXXX   Address to which notices about this claim can be sent to you  
    • pop up on the bulk court website detailed on the claimform. [if it is not working return after the w/end or the next day if week time] . When you select ‘Register’, you will be taken to a screen titled ‘Sign in using Government Gateway’.  Choose ‘Create sign in details’ to register for the first time.  You will be asked to provide your name, email address, set a password and a memorable recovery word. You will be emailed your Government Gateway 12-digit User ID.  You should make a note of your memorable word, or password as these are not included in the email.<<**IMPORTANT**  then log in to the bulk court Website .  select respond to a claim and select the start AOS box. .  then using the details required from the claimform . defend all leave jurisdiction unticked  you DO NOT file a defence at this time [BUT you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 ] click thru to the end confirm and exit the website .get a CPR 31:14 request running to the solicitors https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?486334-CPR-31.14-Request-to-use-on-receipt-of-a-PPC-(-Private-Land-Parking-Court-Claim type your name ONLY no need to sign anything .you DO NOT await the return of paperwork. you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 from the date on the claimform.
  • Recommended Topics

  • Our picks

    • If you are buying a used car – you need to read this survival guide.
        • Like
      • 1 reply
    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
      • 81 replies
    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
        • Like
      • 161 replies
    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
        • Like
  • Recommended Topics

MBNA - Link County Court Claim - ** CASE DISMISSED**


style="text-align: center;">  

Thread Locked

because no one has posted on it for the last 4494 days.

If you need to add something to this thread then

 

Please click the "Report " link

 

at the bottom of one of the posts.

 

If you want to post a new story then

Please

Start your own new thread

That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help 

 

Thanks

Recommended Posts

14 days should be sufficient with regards to the £130 its when the costs have been assessed (its always greater) providing you have been successful

normal application fee being £75.

We could do with some help from you.

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHER

 

Have we helped you ...?         Please Donate button to the Consumer Action Group - The National Consumer Service

If you want advice on your Topic please PM me a link to your thread

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Replies 292
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

In box [3] of the N244 write:

 

Further to both parties agreement to extend time to submit a defence CPR 15.5, this having now expired, I now request an order that unless within 14 days of the making of an order upon this application the Claimant complies with a request made by the Defendant on 9 December 2101 pursuant to CPR 31.14 by the provision to the Defendant of documents mentioned in the Particulars of Claim, namely [1] the agreement [2] the default notice [3] the deed of assignment [4] the notice of assignment and [5] the termination notice, the claim shall stand struck out and the Defendant shall be at liberty to enter judgment against the Claimant without further order of the court with the costs of this case to be paid by the Claimant to the Defendant to be assessed on the standard basis and pursuant to the provisions of The Litigants in Person (Costs and Expenses) Act 1975.

 

The application is made because of the Claimant's failure to comply with the Defendant's CPR 31.14 request and to enable the proper preparation of a Defence.'

 

In Box 10 tick the box marked 'the evidence set out in the box below' and beneath it write:

 

On 9 December 2010, following service of the Claim Form in this case, I wrote to the Claimant requesting inspection of documents mentioned in the Particulars of Claim pursuant to CPR 31.14. A copy of my letter of request is attached to this application noticelink3.gif marked 'A'.

The agreement relied upon by the Claimant is now very old. The documents sought by my request are essential for the proper preparation of my defence and the determination of the claim and CPR 31.14 afford me a right to inspect those documents.

 

Draft Order:

 

1 Unless by 4:00pm on 25 March 2011 the Claimant complies with a request made by the Defendant on 9 December 2010 pursuant to CPR 31.14 by the provision to the Defendant of documents mentioned in the Particulars of Claim, namely [1] the agreement [2] the default notice [3] the deed of assignment [4] the notice of assignment and [5] the termination notice

the claim shall stand struck out and the Defendant shall be at liberty to enter judgment against the Claimant without further order of the court, and

[ii] the Claimant shall pay the Defendant his/her costs of this case to be assessed on the standard basis and pursuant to the provisions of The Litigants in Person (Costs and Expenses) Act 1975.

 

2 In the event that the Claimant shall comply with this order,

the Defendant shall file and serve a Defence by 4:00pm on 22 April 2011 and

[ii] the Claimant shall pay the Defendant his/her costs of this application [in any event] [assessed in the sum of £130.00]

 

 

Last copy beofre printing out and sending in the post tomorrow, does this look ok

 

Thanks

It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye :D

Link to post
Share on other sites

[in any event] [assessed in the sum of £130.00]

 

Do I actually put this bit with the square brackets or is it meant as something else like notes????

 

Thanks

It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye :D

Link to post
Share on other sites

Just leave it as Application. No bracs no fig.

We could do with some help from you.

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHER

 

Have we helped you ...?         Please Donate button to the Consumer Action Group - The National Consumer Service

If you want advice on your Topic please PM me a link to your thread

Link to post
Share on other sites

Just leave it as Application. No bracs no fig.

 

lol, Good job I checked, thanks again.

 

Will be sending this bad boy out in the post tonight :)

It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye :D

Link to post
Share on other sites

Only the case summons remains on MCOL, until its transfered to your local CC, then any application /case notes will be transferred also

pertaining to your case.

 

Andy

We could do with some help from you.

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHER

 

Have we helped you ...?         Please Donate button to the Consumer Action Group - The National Consumer Service

If you want advice on your Topic please PM me a link to your thread

Link to post
Share on other sites

So how do I keep a track of what is going on, or is it a case of waiting to see if they provide the documents requested in time?

 

Thanks

It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye :D

Link to post
Share on other sites

Well the claim remains in CCBC (MCOL) until a defence is submitted,therefore deal with them re applications etc

until AQ and its fed out to your CC.

 

 

Andy

We could do with some help from you.

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHER

 

Have we helped you ...?         Please Donate button to the Consumer Action Group - The National Consumer Service

If you want advice on your Topic please PM me a link to your thread

Link to post
Share on other sites

Spoke to the court this morning, and they have said that the DJ is looking at my application today.

 

They also said that I only needed to send them a £40 fee not £75 as it had not been transferred to a local CC and also because a hearing was not required. So they are sending me a cheque for £35 :)

It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye :D

Link to post
Share on other sites

Sorry Manc I should have stated without an hearing.

 

Andy

We could do with some help from you.

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHER

 

Have we helped you ...?         Please Donate button to the Consumer Action Group - The National Consumer Service

If you want advice on your Topic please PM me a link to your thread

Link to post
Share on other sites

Sorry Manc I should have stated without an hearing.

 

Andy

 

No, is not your mistake matey, I just checked my application, and I did tick without a hearing, it was I didnt realise that the fee was lower.

 

All is good though :)

It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye :D

Link to post
Share on other sites

Spoke to the court to see what happened on Friday and they said that the DJ has set a date of 16th March to look at the application, but it may be after that date and upto a week afterwards before a decision is made.

 

So I guess I sit and wait to see what happens, and I assume that once the application is sent to Link, they will be given extra time compared to what I put on the draft order, as the court has been slower than I thought.

It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye :D

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

Letter from Northampton today:

 

Link_CourtA29March2011001.jpg

 

Link_CourtB29March2011001.jpg

 

So, once it has been transferred and a date set, what do I need to do and do I need to attend?

 

Thanks

It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye :D

Link to post
Share on other sites

I would imagine you will receive an order from the court where it has been transferred to. If you have the opportunity to attend, it might be worth doing so.

Have we helped you ...?         Please Donate button to the Consumer Action Group

Uploading documents to CAG ** Instructions **

Looking for a draft letter? Use the CAG Library

Dealing with Customer Service Departments? - read the CAG Guide first

1: Making a PPI claim ? - Q & A's and spreadsheets for single premium policy - HERE

2: Take back control of your finances - Debt Diaries

3: Feel Bullied by Creditors or Debt Collectors? Read Here

4: Staying Calm About Debt  Read Here

5: Forum rules - These have been updated - Please Read

BCOBS

1: How can BCOBS protect you from your Banks unfair treatment

2: Does your Bank play fair - You can force your Bank to play Fair with you

3: Banking Conduct of Business Regulations - The Hidden Rules

4: BCOBS and Unfair Treatment - Common Examples of Banks Behaving Badly

5: Fair Treatment for Credit Card Holders and Borrowers - COBS

Advice & opinions given by citizenb are personal, are not endorsed by Consumer Action Group or Bank Action Group, and are offered informally, without prejudice & without liability. Your decisions and actions are your own, and should you be in any doubt, you are advised to seek the opinion of a qualified professional.

PLEASE DO NOT ASK ME TO GIVE ADVICE BY PM - IF YOU PROVIDE A LINK TO YOUR THREAD THEN I WILL BE HAPPY TO OFFER ADVICE THERE:D

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi CB

 

The debt belongs to my wife, but would I be allowed to attend on her behalf, and would I be expected to say anything?

 

Am just trying to get an insight as to what the possible outcomes are and what happens in this instance.

 

Thanks

It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye :D

Link to post
Share on other sites

There shouldnt be a problem with you attending, but the court may deny you the right of audience, as it is not your matter so technically unless you are the Defendant, a legal exec, Solicitor, Barrister or someone whom holds a right of audience in accordance with the Courts and Legal Services act 1990 then you could be denied the right to be heard.

 

In respect of your application i hope its supported by a witness statement of your wife setting out why the Court ought to strike out? the bar is very high in strike out cases, so i often include an alternative request for further directions to deal with the matter in the event a strike out is unsuccessful to avoid the costs implications of losing.

Link to post
Share on other sites

In respect of your application i hope its supported by a witness statement of your wife setting out why the Court ought to strike out? the bar is very high in strike out cases, so i often include an alternative request for further directions to deal with the matter in the event a strike out is unsuccessful to avoid the costs implications of losing.

 

Before I sent the application off, no-one mentioned anything about a witness statement, however I did sent a draft order.

 

What do you advise?

 

Thanks

It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye :D

Link to post
Share on other sites

A witness statement supporting the application often is the difference between win or lose imho.

 

Lawtel has a number of precedents that i use, they give you the detail which your application ought to address

 

[In chronological order, list the facts on which the witness relies in support of the application. In applications for strike out, the following facts need to be addressed:

a) If the application relates to striking out part of a statement of case, clearly identify the relevant parts (by quoting the relevant paragraph numbers).

b) State the ground for applying for strike out (see r.3.4 and section 2.1 and section 3 of the Procedural Guide “Application to Strike out a Statement of Case”).

c) If the application is being made pursuant to r.3.4(2(a) (the statement of case discloses no reasonable grounds for bringing or defending the claim) state why the applicant believes the statement of case has no prospect of succeeding (this may be based on the facts or on a point of law). Consider also applying for summary judgment pursuant to CPR Pt 24.

d) If the application is being made pursuant to r.3.4(2)(b) (the statement of case is an abuse of the court’s process or is otherwise likely to obstruct the just disposal of the proceedings) explain why the applicant believes the claim is ill-founded, vexatious or scurrilous. If the applicant believes there has been an abuse of process, explain why by reference to the facts.

e) If the application is being made pursuant to r.3.4(2)© (the respondent has failed to comply with a rule, practice direction or court order), identify the relevant provision and the facts showing how the respondent has not complied with it as he should have. State the consequences of the respondent’s failure to comply.

 

The above is from the precedent itself, and should give you an idea on what your application ought to have addressed. If these points have been addressed in the app then you should be ok,

Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks PT

 

I have just checked over the application at section 10: "What information will you be relying on, in support of your application?" I checked the box that said "the evidence set out in the box below" as opposed to "the attached witness statement".

 

My head is a bit pickled atm as am not well, but I will read more into it tomorrow as I will have a clearer head. At a glance, I do however believe that we have addressed some of the points you posted about.

It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye :D

Link to post
Share on other sites

Your application was with emphasis to disclose was it not Manc, not to strike out, strike out was the option if disclosure not complied with.

Therefore you are, in all intense and purposes forcing the DJ to make the " or less " order which in effect he will strike out.

 

Regards

 

Andy

We could do with some help from you.

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHER

 

Have we helped you ...?         Please Donate button to the Consumer Action Group - The National Consumer Service

If you want advice on your Topic please PM me a link to your thread

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi PT and Andy

 

Yes it is for disclosure but now I am confused as the General Directions Order states: "The application to strike out the claim must be heard on notice to the claimant"

 

I had issues with Northampton BCC at the start where they thought the N244 was for an extension of time !!

It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye :D

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Have we helped you ...?


×
×
  • Create New...