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Only my prospectus from uni for the law degrees ;-)

Already been down to court and filed my Unless Order :-D

 

Excellent on both fronts. Have a peek at the open university web site too, they are good!

 

Did the court say how long the unless order would take ?

 

Its good that it is now on record that they have taken nearly 2 weeks , and they still havent sent the paperwork !

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Excellent on both fronts. Have a peek at the open university web site too, they are good!

 

Did the court say how long the unless order would take ?

 

Its good that it is now on record that they have taken nearly 2 weeks , and they still havent sent the paperwork !

 

Yay for uni prospectus and yay for unless order -OU takes a long time to complete though due to having to do a unit a year and its 6 units ive looked into it plus the cost of the first year is £750, im starting my degree with them in October and was looking to transfer from what im doing to Law but I dont want to take that long so im going to stay as I am :)

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what are you currently studying Beyondhope ?

 

At the moment im waiting for my insurance certificate to childmind, its never going to come quick enough LOL And as of 2nd October I'll be doing OU degree in Childhood and youth :)

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well done ! Hope the insurance comes through soon, and good luck in October x

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well done ! Hope the insurance comes through soon, and good luck in October x

 

Thank you :D

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I'm so happy today! free-happy-smileys-302.gif

After being originally quite disappointed that I couldn't file my N244 on the day I intended, I have today realised that the delay has unequivocally worked in my favour. Fate playing it's part yet again free-happy-smileys-269.gif

As of yesterday we are at 4 weeks until the Summary Judgement hearing.

The unless order for compliance with disclosure will be served on them around 24th/25th August and then they'll have until 31st Aug/1st Sept to comply.

However, during that period the deadline for receiving their Witness Statement will be upon us-20th Aug. Providing that they then supply the disclosed docs in accordance with the unless order and going by their previous form, I will take it that they then fail to submit their WS by the 20th.

My next step will be to file ANOTHER N244 for compliance with serving Witness statements on Aug 23rd; this unless order will probably be served on them around 31st Aug/1st Sept giving them a further 7 days to comply, which conveniently takes us up to 2/3 days before the hearing!!

 

However....they also have until 7 days BEFORE the Summary Judgement hearing to file any evidence they will be relying on at the hearing, which is 3rd September.

 

And.....if they don't send me a copy of the document they disclosed that I know doesn't exist I will also be writing in to court to request permission for referral to the Attorney General for Contempt of Court based on them making a false disclosure statement.

 

They are going to be excruciatingly busy over the next few weeks methinks! Funny how everything is due all at the same time eh??! free-rolleye-smileys-1030.gif

 

So..in conclusion I am hoping that come 10th September I will be in front of Judge armed with:

 

  1. Their defence as an admission
  2. My application for summary judgement with my witness statement
  3. The service of 3 unless orders on them as a result of contemptuous disregard for the time limits set by the court
  4. An allegation of contempt of court

Fingers crossed the Judge on the day sees fit to pass Judgement! please-please-boy-sad-smiley-emoticon-000383-medium.gif

 

Obviously my analysis is based on quite a few presumptions and I am fully aware that things may not happen this way exactly, in fact anything could happen at this time!! This is just my informed opinion according to their previous track record :p

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So..in conclusion I am hoping that come 10th September I will be in front of Judge armed with:

 

  1. Their defence as an admission
  2. My application for summary judgement with my witness statement
  3. The service of 3 unless orders on them as a result of contemptuous disregard for the time limits set by the court
  4. An allegation of contempt of court

 

AND...

 

5.A coachload of caggers

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This ensuing chain of events relies on them actually responding to the current unless order and submitting their disclosed documents for inspection otherwise their statement of case will be struck out and I can apply for judgement by default.

 

The only thing that I'm a little concerned about is what evidence I would get to rely on at the hearing, I don't think I can submit any more now unless they submit something as evidence. But having said that, all the unless orders and details of their conduct will be on the file that will be in front of the judge, would they??

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Guess who hasn't sent me their witness statement by the deadline today?? This is getting tiresome now, oh well at least they should be getting an unless order early next week :-)

 

Oh for goodness sake! are they trying to deliberately up the costs they have to pay?? Mr P if you are reading this do yourself a favour and save yourselves some money eh! She's NOT going away!! and neither am I for the record :oP

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Well you know what the ex-welcome employee said "they're too busy S***ing themselves and running around not knowing what to do". What can you realistically expect from folk in that situation?? :lol:

 

Although I have to say I am feeling considerably under-challenged!!!

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Well you know what the ex-welcome employee said "they're too busy S***ing themselves and running around not knowing what to do". What can you realistically expect from folk in that situation?? :lol:

 

Although I have to say I am feeling considerably under-challenged!!!

 

And as the very same also said....theres no excuse!

 

Bless you hun how dare they under challenge you! LOL Any news on the uni front?

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Ladies and Gentlemen please fasten your seatbelts, all exits are now closed! free-scared-smileys-706.gif

Just had a letter from court about my recent application for an unless order. Apparently the Judge deems it unsuitable for hearing on paper and it has been incorporated into my hearing for Summary Judgement! That's it now, there are NO options left to them to get out of this without liability. The judge wants them in court and it's off to court we go! The Default Judgement exit is no longer an option.

 

20 days remaining.....free-random-smileys-161.gif

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Ladies and Gentlemen please fasten your seatbelts, all exits are now closed! free-scared-smileys-706.gif

Just had a letter from court about my recent application for an unless order. Apparently the Judge deems it unsuitable for hearing on paper and it has been incorporated into my hearing for Summary Judgement! That's it now, there are NO options left to them to get out of this without liability. The judge wants them in court and it's off to court we go! The Default Judgement exit is no longer an option.

 

20 days remaining.....free-random-smileys-161.gif

 

 

OMG!!!!! YAYYYY!! Your wish shall be the courts command!!! So they decided that an unless order is a waste of time then? Well I suppose there has to be a line and they shouldnt need an unless order at any stage let alone every stage! Whats next before hearing? Im so pleased for you!!

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OMG!!!!! YAYYYY!! Your wish shall be the courts command!!! So they decided that an unless order is a waste of time then? Well I suppose there has to be a line and they shouldnt need an unless order at any stage let alone every stage! Whats next before hearing? Im so pleased for you!!

Well not so much a waste of time cos included with the letter is a Notice of Hearing of Application stating "The hearing of the claimant's application for an unless order will take place at "......same time and date as Summary Judgement hearing.

 

I'm just trying to digest what all this means and what the implications are. The only thing I can glean for definite is that there will be no default judgement option. The rest of it is anybody's guess!!!

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Well not so much a waste of time cos included with the letter is a Notice of Hearing of Application stating "The hearing of the claimant's application for an unless order will take place at "......same time and date as Summary Judgement hearing.

 

I'm just trying to digest what all this means and what the implications are. The only thing I can glean for definite is that there will be no default judgement option. The rest of it is anybody's guess!!!

 

Ah I see what you mean! Well it can only be a good thing that they be held accountable one way or another!!

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Ah I see what you mean! Well it can only be a good thing that they be held accountable one way or another!!

Well exactly, that's what I'm so chuffed about! free-random-smileys-275.gif

All in though I'm thinking that this whole case since the beginning has been shall we say, 'unusual' and therefore the only fair way of disposing of it as well as making sure the court remains free of any possible ramifications, would be to have a hearing.

 

It is tickling me though to think of Mr P's face when he gets his copy on Monday :lol:

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Well exactly, that's what I'm so chuffed about! free-random-smileys-275.gif

All in though I'm thinking that this whole case since the beginning has been shall we say, 'unusual' and therefore the only fair way of disposing of it as well as making sure the court remains free of any possible ramifications, would be to have a hearing.

 

It is tickling me though to think of Mr P's face when he gets his copy on Monday :lol:

 

Nice dance girl LOL

It has been rather 'not the norm' hasnt it, but thats fate for you :D

Oh my! his face is going to be a picture :lol: Im wondering at what point you get an offer to go away! Or will they even realise that it's over until it's too late!

Isnt 'our friend' on holiday soon also?

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Nice dance girl LOL

It has been rather 'not the norm' hasnt it, but thats fate for you :D

Oh my! his face is going to be a picture :lol: Im wondering at what point you get an offer to go away! Or will they even realise that it's over until it's too late!

Isnt 'our friend' on holiday soon also?

Yep! 26th August to 1st September inclusive. So he'll come into work Monday morning and have Mon, Tue and Wed to do something before he's off. Best bit is he'll be back Thursday 2nd September and only have THAT day to prepare and send to the court any evidence he wishes to rely on at the SJ hearing. To date they have sent diddly squat in response to the SJ application. In fact the only things I have received from them in response to this entire claim are:

 

  • Crappy defence/admission
  • Completed AQ (late, after court served an unless order)
  • Standard Disclosure by list containing reference to a non-existent doc

and that's it!!

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