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    • new thread created for this claimform please post here now for anything to do with it now . pop up on the bulk court website detailed on the claimform. [if it is not working return after the w/end or the next day if week time] . When you select ‘Register’, you will be taken to a screen titled ‘Sign in using Government Gateway’. Choose ‘Create sign in details’ to register for the first time. You will be asked to provide your name, email address, set a password and a memorable recovery word. You will be emailed your Government Gateway 12-digit User ID. You should make a note of your memorable word, or password as these are not included in the email.  then log in to the bulk court Website .  select respond to a claim and select the start AOS box. .  then using the details required from the claimform . defend all leave jurisdiction unticked  you DO NOT file a defence at this time [BUT you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 ] click thru to the end confirm and exit the website .. get a CCA Request running to the claimant . https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/332502-cca-request-consumer-credit-act-1974-updated-january-2015/ .. Leave the £1 PO unsigned and uncrossed . get a CPR  31:14  request running to the solicitors [if one is not listed send to the claimant] ... https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/332546-legal-cpr-3114-request-request-for-information-when-a-claim-has-been-issued/ . .use our other CPR letter if the claim is for an OD or Telecom Debt or Util debt]  https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/332546-legal-cpr-3114-request-request-for-information-when-a-claim-has-been-issued/ on BOTH type your name ONLY Do Not sign anything .do not ever use or give an email . you DO NOT await the return of ANY paperwork  you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 from the date on the claimform [1 in the count] ..............  
    • Which Court have you received the claim from ? Northampton  Name of the Claimant ? lowell Solicitors : Overdales solicitors  How many defendant's  joint or self ? Self Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to.  13 may 2024 What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim? 1. the claim is for the sum of £6163.61due by the defendant under an agreement regulated by the consumer credit act 1974 for hsbc uk bank plc. Account (16 digits) 2. The defendant failed to maintain contractual payments required by the agreement and a default notice was served under s 87(1)  of the consumer credit act 1974 which as not been compiled with. 3. The debt was legally assigned to the Claimant on 23/08/23, notice on which as been given to the defendant.  4. The claim includes statutory interest under S.69 of the county courts act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of issue of these proceedings in the sum of £117.53 the Claimant claims the sum of £6281.14. Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ?   Not to my knowledge. Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online but it was for a smaller amount they kept on increasing this with me asking Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. It was assigned to a debt collection agency  Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? yes  Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Yes I also made offers to pay original creditor a smaller amount but was not replied to Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? No Why did you cease payments? I was made redundant and got a less paid job I also spent some time on furlough during covid and spent some 3 months on ssp off work. What was the date of your last payment? May 2021 Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes at the time I communicated with all my creditor's that I was running out of funds to pay the original agreements once my redundancy money ran out that was when my accounts defaulted. I then wrote to all my creditor's with pro rata offers of payments but debt collectors took over the accounts.
    • Just an update for all. I received about a letter every other week, increasing in threat levels. Then I hadn't had one for a about two weeks, then Saturday received a carbon copy of the very first letter they sent me in February. Made me laugh, rinse and repeat. 
    • So, your response was not received by the SCP as you did not send it with a valid stamp. Therefore, from my two option in post #14, the first option is the only one available to you, but you do not have the option of asking to be sentenced at the fixed penalty level as the reason the SCP did not receive your response was down to you. Here's a reminder of what to do: Respond to the SJPN by pleading “Not Guilty” to both charges. In the “Reasons for pleading Not Guilty” box state that you are willing to plead guilty to the speeding charge providing, and only providing, the “Fail to Provide Driver's Details" (FtP) charge is dropped. This is a tried and tested method to deal with your problem and is almost always successful. Before the pandemic it was necessary to attend court to do this "deal" because it needs the agreement of the police prosecutor.. During the pandemic courts made every effort to have as few  people as possible attend and they began doing this deal under the "Single Justice" procedure without the defendant's attendance. Some courts have carried this procedure on whilst others have reverted to a personal attendance being necessary. If you are required to attend, your case will be taken out of the SJ procedure and you will be given a date for a hearing in the normal Magistrates' Court. If that is the way they do it in the area involved you will have to attend, see the prosecutor and offer your "deal" in person. 
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Eddie - is this still the letter that you posted on 26th March and everyone said go on and send it .......

 

leave out sensibly if you want but just get it in the post

 

DO IT

 

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If you dont get the letter posted and soon.. what you leave in or not is going to be irrelevant because you are going to be OUT OF TIME for submitting.... :rolleyes:

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hmmmmmmm maybe that one, oops, ok well its done now, just wanted to get it right, its gone SD so should be there tomorrow.

 

What is the expected thing to happen when they get it?!

 

Cheers guys

 

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What is the expected thing to happen when they get it?!

 

Cheers guys

 

E

 

They may say an outright no, or that you couldnt possibly have spent that amount of time researching as you took all your stuff off a website.. or they will offer you a percentage of what you have asked for. The choices are endless

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Whatever they do, it will have been done before and someone on here will have dealt with it.

 

So, yes wait 'n' see and post up what you receive.

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Hi Guys!

 

Letter back from them :-

 

The only costs recoverable are solicitors incurred whilst acting on the parties behalf and recorded by the court.

 

Th party may claim witness expenses after attending a hearing and by order of the court.

 

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Soooooooooooooo, what do y'all make of that?

 

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Well quite clearly they are wrong...

 

PART 48 - COSTS – SPECIAL CASES - Ministry of Justice

 

Litigants in person

48.6

 

(1)This rule applies where the court orders (whether by summary assessment or detailed assessment) that the costs of a litigant in person are to be paid by any other person.

 

(2)The costs allowed under this rule must not exceed, except in the case of a disbursement, two-thirds of the amount which would have been allowed if the litigant in person had been represented by a legal representative.

 

(3)The litigant in person shall be allowed –

 

(a)costs for the same categories of –

 

(i)work; and

 

(ii)disbursements,

 

which would have been allowed if the work had been done or the disbursements had been made by a legal representative on the litigant in person's behalf;

 

(b)the payments reasonably made by him for legal services relating to the conduct of the proceedings; and

 

©the costs of obtaining expert assistance in assessing the costs claim.

 

(4)The amount of costs to be allowed to the litigant in person for any item of work claimed shall be –

 

(a)where the litigant can prove financial loss, the amount that he can prove he has lost for time reasonably spent on doing the work; or

 

(b)where the litigant cannot prove financial loss, an amount for the time reasonably spent on doing the work at the rate set out in the Costs Practice Direction.

 

(5)A litigant who is allowed costs for attending at court to conduct his case is not entitled to a witness allowance in respect of such attendance in addition to those costs.

 

(6)For the purposes of this rule, a litigant in person includes –

 

(a)a company or other corporation which is acting without a legal representative; and

 

(b)a barrister, solicitor, solicitor’s employee, manager of a body recognised under section 9 of the Administration of Justice Act 1985 or a person who, for the purposes of the Legal Services Act 2007, is an authorised person in relation to an activity which constitutes the conduct of litigation (within the meaning of that Act) who is acting for himself.

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The only costs recoverable are solicitors incurred whilst acting on the parties behalf and recorded by the court.

 

Th party may claim witness expenses after attending a hearing and by order of the court.

 

Send them something like this:

 

Dear Sir/Madam,

 

The principle surrounding Litigant in Person costs are well established in law and your firm have been made aware of the costs I can claim for representing myself and carrying out the work that would be expected of a legal representative.

 

This right can be found in CPR 48.6 and I would suggest your firm familiarise yourselves with it before disputing the costs I am reclaiming. For ease of reading I have copied out 48.6 (3) which clarifies this right:

 

CPR 48.6(3)

The litigant in person shall be allowed

(a) costs for the same categories of:

(i) work; and

(ii) disbursments,

which would have been allowed if the work had been done or the disbursement

had been made by a legal representative on the litigant in person’s behalf.

 

Additionally this provision was considered by the Court of Appeal in the case of Agassi v Robinson (HM Inspector of Taxes) (2005)

 

Therefore I look forward to your response to my costs request within 7 days.

 

Yours faithfully,

 

NG

 

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and if you've got an old dial-up modem lurking you could fax it to them.

 

or use cutepdf to print it to a pdf and email it to them

 

deff don't bother with SD

 

Excellent letter VJ :-)

 

and yes Eddie ..... just send it ....... ;)

 

maybe you should add another 30 odd minutes as well :) they would !!

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maybe you should add another 30 odd minutes as well :) they would !!

 

Yes your so right, lol, I think I need to increase that by £9.25 for the hour ive pi55ed about with this and taking it to he post office etc...

 

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Hi Guys!

 

Letter back from them :-

 

The only costs recoverable are solicitors incurred whilst acting on the parties behalf and recorded by the court.

 

Th party may claim witness expenses after attending a hearing and by order of the court.

 

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Soooooooooooooo, what do y'all make of that?

 

Cheers

 

E

 

Wrong & it's professional misconduct to mislead you

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Update tiiiiiiime :D

 

So I sent the above template John kindly put together for us, today we got back :-

 

There is no order from the court stating you have been awarded costs.

 

However, without prejudice, if you let us have a breakdown of yours costs, we will take instruction.

 

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Sooooooooo, what do you make of that?!

 

Cheers!

 

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please don't tell me you want advice as to what to do next :lol:

 

I think I've pointed you at X20's costs thread already - there's a very good breakdown on there - ready to adapt to your personal case

 

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Here ya go...

 

Dear Sir/Madam,

 

With all due respect there does not need to be an order from the court because you discontinued before the court were able to make a judgement on your case and thus award me my costs upon what I believe would have been a successful defence.

 

Your firm are fully aware that no order for costs is made in the circumstances of discontinuance and it ill behoves a professional to claim otherwise.

 

I have attached a summary of my costs to this letter along with an N252 form which gives you 21 days from service to settle my costs. If you dispute my costs then you are liable to pay £300 for an assessment hearing. If you fail to respond at all I shall issue a default costs certificate for the full costs and court fee.

 

I trust your client is willing to settle this matter without further wasting the courts time and I look forward to hearing from you.

 

Yours faithfully,

 

NG

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