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    • hi all, i will list my curmcumstance first then list the details of the penalty charge - we are 2 diabled people being affected by the cost of living crisis and are skint etc. i am disabled with mobility issues(arthritis in knees and ankles and gout) and cant operate car pedals anymore so i let a friend up the road use my car in exchange for her driving me about. its a good arrangement as i get a 'chauffer' and she gets the use of car. the car is parked in her drive which is better as i was refused a disabled space (even on appeal) and too much congestion to park the car outside my house. my friend is vulnerable as she has suffered depression and suicidal thoughts since the loss of her mother a few years back, she is dyslexic, she is a carer for one of her sons that is disabled due to mental illness and mobility. she lives in a council house and cannot work. we went to iceland ..attracted by the 10items for £10 offer - we've never been there before. a large artic lorry was parked accross the car park blocking the view of one of the parking signs and blocking the disabled bays where the pay&display machine is. by the time she helped me out of the car and then went to see if it was pay&display then came back to me at the car she said she thinks it was pay even for disabled, so we looked for change in the car which we didnt have (she normally goes asda which dont need to pay for parking)so then we said we'd either go get change or go to asda...so then by the time it took her to help me back in and get out the car park took 15 minutes...5 minutes overstay past the 10minutes grace. the letter from excel parking came through and i sent it back giving her name as driver (before i saw on here that you shouldnt name the driver) then i appealed explaining what happened (lorry blocking etc) and even said we were being descriminated (advised by citizen advice)as we are disabled and 15minutes is not long enough for a crippled disabled man and a woman with dyslexia to read and understandd the sign and get out, then back in the car and look for change then get out the car park in 15minutes. i even explained she was a vulnerable person on anti-depressants and even sent a photo of medication and said if you need a doctors note then let me know....the appeal was rejected. i've emailed iceland over 50 times and they just wont tell excel to cancel this charge - they are ignorant and ive even asked them why they have a webpage saying 'iceland combatting the cost of living crisis' pretending to help their customers and they wont comment...they'd rather put more stress and anxiety on an already suicidal vulnerable person just to get money out of them..so their 'help' during this crisis is a lie as it wont even extend to disabled customers. she has now received 2 letters from DCBL saying she owes £170 for 5minutes of overstay. the last one is a final demand. as she cant read or write very well ive sent a recorded letter to DCBL (as advised by citizen advice) asking not to attend the property due to a vulnerable woman inside the property as it will only exasperate the situation, they have ignored it and basically said we dont care, you still owe. could anyone please advise - we are not very good with letters or these situations and are slow on the uptake.   1 The date of infringement? 28th dec 2023   2 Have you yet appealed to the parking company yet? [Y/N?] yes   If you have then please post up whatever you sent and how you sent it and the date you sent it, suitably redacted. [as a PDF- follow the upload guide]cant do that - will have to get my son to do it when he visits   Has there been a response? yes   Please AS A PDF FILE  ONLY ..post it up as well, suitably redacted. - follow the upload guide]cant do that - will have to get my son to do it when he visits   If you haven't appealed yet - .........DONT ! seek advice on your topic first.   Have you received a Notice To Keeper? (NTK) [must be received by you between 29-56 days] yes   What date is on it? 15th january 2024   Did the NTK provide photographic evidence? yes   [scan up BOTHSIDES to ONE PDF of the PCN and your NTK - follow the upload guide] please LEAVE IN LOCATION AND ALL DATES/TIMES/£'scant do that - will have to get my son to do it when he visits   3 Did the NTK mention Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA) [Y/N?] not on the front - maybe on the back but cannot find the letter now   4 If you appealed after receiving the NTK, did the parking company give you any information regarding the further appeals process? [it is well known that parking companies will reject any appeal whatever the circumstances] yes   5 Who is the parking company? excel   6. Where exactly [Carpark name and town] did you park? gravesend in iceland    
    • Hi Dave, I had no updates on this PCN since my last post in July 2019.  I received no further communications from the parking company.  I changed my address in May 2022. Thanks, I will send a letter to Excel parking to inform about the change in the address. 
    • I have a BMW Advanced Car Eye 3 Pro - I think it's 50/50  In any case, none of the documents / photos sent in the SAR showed a ticket on the car. 
    • I've seen on your other thread that you say you moved in 2022. It is essential you tell the parking company about your new address. Every couple of months or so we get someone here who moves, doesn't tell the other party they're in dispute with, court papers turn up at the old address, the Cagger doesn't know anything about this and doesn't defend, they lose by default - and end up with a backdoor CCJ. So get a quick letter off to Excel - Dear Simple Simon, Re: PCN no.XXXXX will you please note that I no longer live at XXXXX and that my new address is XXXXX. Yours, XXXXX Invest in a 2nd class stamp and get a free Certificate of Posting from the post office.
    • Yeah thanks guys - I'm just going to ignore them now.  Can't be ar$ed digging around in the loft!  Can I still send them a notice not to send people to our door?   I know we did 10 years ago but not sure if that's still a "thing"!
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As you predicted LRC Ltd sent there 1st letter today.

 

It reads

 

Upon entering the car park you agreed to be bound bt the T&C taht were placed at the entrance of the car park, and in prominent places within.

Unless payment is received direct to our office by 11am on Mon 1st Feb we shall have no alternative but to commence court procedings against you, to include a claim for costs and interest, without further notice.

 

The first thing that tickled me is the company name Legal recoveries & collection Ltd. LEGAL there having a laugh

 

2nd agreed to the T&C. I never agreed to anything. Have I signed something???

 

3rd court proceedings without further notice. so the next letter will be from the court not LRC. So i should hear no more from them. I think not!!!!

 

Still sitting tight against the wishes of the wife.

 

But the letter is on thicker paper and this one has a letter head

 

Will keep all posted.

 

Thanks everyone for your posts

 

Matt

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and I don't know who signed your letter from LRC , but mine was hand signed by someone apparently called "Legal Recoveries and Collections"

 

Do think think their friends (or lacking that, strangers in the street) call them Leggy? Or possible Andy?

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and I don't know who signed your letter from LRC , but mine was hand signed by someone apparently called "Legal Recoveries and Collections"

 

Do think think their friends (or lacking that, strangers in the street) call them Leggy? Or possible Andy?

 

 

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Got another one from LRC today. same as the last one except for now it says unless i pay within 7 days they MAY choose to issue a ccj

The last letter i got says they will start court proceedings without further notice, So why are they still writing to me.:confused:

Signed at the bottom by 'legal recoveries & collection limited' No name again?????????

 

Will keep you posted....:)

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Got another one from LRC today. same as the last one except for now it says unless i pay within 7 days they MAY choose to issue a ccj

 

I'd love to know which courts these PPCs use to "issue a CCJ" simply because they "MAY choose to do so"! I have been to county court today as a claimant and was successful in getting a judgement in my favour, but it's taken me 7 months to get to this stage. Wish I'd taken the PPC route and just issued a CCJ against the defendant when I chose to do so last June. :p

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I'd love to know which courts these PPCs use to "issue a CCJ" simply because they "MAY choose to do so"! I have been to county court today as a claimant and was successful in getting a judgement in my favour, but it's taken me 7 months to get to this stage. Wish I'd taken the PPC route and just issued a CCJ against the defendant when I chose to do so last June. :p

Crem is your alter ego 'Perky'? you seem to share the same success.:D

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Hardly. My claim was valid! :D

You mean it wasn't a "precedent setting", put up job dreamed up on planet perky?:D

 

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Hi all.

My FINAL DEMAND has arrived(10/02/10)

Same old stuff

If i dont pay within 7 days they MAY choose to issue a CCJ.

But now it says they may make an application to my employer for an attachment of earnings or a officer of the court may be instructed to seize my assets..

Getting a bit boring now.

Thanks for all the comments and advice.

As always will keep you posted

Matt

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My wife keeps saying just pay it but im standing firm on this one and taking all your advise

 

I had the same trouble and also funny looks of doubt from my mother!!!

 

I think the wife believes me know to trust the advise on here and we now laugh at the letters but they seem to have stopped from NCP!

 

Boooooo! wanted more paper to shred and laugh at! Telling all my taxi customers.

 

ADMINS: Can I print out some lables/cards to give to people using the CAG emblem at the top of the page???????

 

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Hi All.

Thought i would give you an update.

Well since my last post i have had

NO letters

NO ccj's

NO phone calls

NO applications to seize my assets

NO application to my employer

NO..... I think you get the point now

I will let you know if i hear anymore

And if I dont I might just go and park there again LOL

:D:D:D:D:D:D

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Of course they can 'apply for a CCJ': the BPA code of practice says so. ;)

 

(Using the 'small claims court service' whatever that is.)

Post by me are intended as a discussion of the issues involved, as these are of general interest to me and others on the forum. Although it is hoped such discussion will be of use to readers, before exposing yourself to risk of loss you should not rely on any principles discussed without confirming the situation with a qualified person.

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