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    • Few tweaks as the run order was completely messed up and the main point of your defence (reconstituted agreement) pushed to the bottom of the statement.   I, XXXXXX, being the Defendant in this case will state as follows; I make this Witness Statement in support of my defence in this claim and further to my set aside application dated 1 November 2022. 1.The claimants witness statement confirms that it mostly relies on hearsay evidence as confirmed by the drafts in person in the opening paragraph. It is my understanding they must serve notice to any hearsay evidence pursuant to CPR 33.2(1)(B) (notice of intention to rely on hearsay evidence) and Section 2 (1) (A) of the Civil Evidence Act. 2.  I understand that the claimant is an Assignee, a buyer of defunct or bad debts, which are bought on mass portfolios at a much reduced cost to the amount claimed and which the original creditors have already wrote off as a capital loss and claimed against taxable income as confirmed in the claimants witness statement exhibit by way of the Deed of Assignment. 3. As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights.  This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information).  The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 4.  I became aware of original Judgement following a routine credit check on or around 14th September 2020. 5. The alleged letter of claim dated 7 January 2020 was served to a previous address which I moved out of in 2018, no effort was made to ascertain my correct address.  I have attached a copy of my tenancy agreement which is marked ‘Appendix 1’ and shows I was residing at a difference address as of 11 December 2018 and was therefore not at the service address at the time the proceedings were served.  I have also attached an email from my solicitors to the Claimants solicitors dated 14 July 2022 which was sent to them requesting that they disclose the trace of evidence they utilised prior to issuing the proceedings against me.  This is marked ‘Appendix 2’. The claimants solicitors did not provide me with these documents. 6. Under The Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims 2017 a Debt Buyer must undertake all reasonable enquiries to ensure the correct address of a debtor, this can be as simple as a credit file search. The Claimant failed to carry out such basic checks. Subsequently all letters prior to and including ,The Pre action Protocol letter of claim dated 7 January 2020 and the claim form dated 14th February 2020 were all served to a previous address which I moved out of in 2018. 7. Upon the discovery of the Judgement debt, I made immediate contact with the Court and the Claimant Solicitors, putting them on notice that I was making investigations in relation to the Judgement debt as it was not familiar to me.  I asked them to provide me with a copy of the original loan agreement but this was not provided to me.   The correspondence to the Claimant Solicitor's is attached and marked ‘Appendix 3’ 8. On (insert date) I successfully made application to set a side the judgment. The claim proceeded to allocation, 9. The claimant failed to comply with the additional directions ordered by District Judge Davis on the 2 February 2024 'The Claim shall be automatically struck out at 4pm on 3 April 2024 unless the Claimant delivers to the Court and to the Defendant the following documents.' None of these documents were received by the court nor the defendant by that date. (insert date you did receive the documents) I then sent a Data Subject Access Request to Barclays but no agreement was provided. Details the timeline of communication between myself and Barclays are attached and marked ‘Appendix 4’and the copies of correspondence between myself and Barclays are attached and marked ‘Appendix 5’. Remove irrelevant 10.The claimant relies upon and has exhibited a reconstituted version of the alleged agreement. It is again denied that I have ever entered into an agreement with Barclaycard on or around 2000.  It is admitted that I did hold other credit agreements with other creditors and as such should this be a debt that was assigned to Barclaycard from another brand therefore the reconstituted agreement disclosed is invalid being pre April 2007 and not legally enforceable pursuant to HHJ Judge Waksman in Carey v HSBC 2009 EWHC3417.  Details of this are attached and marked ‘Appendix 6’. The original credit agreement must be provided along with any reconstituted version on a modified credit agreement and must contain the names and address of debtor and creditor, agreement number and cancelation clause. 11. Therefore the claimant is put to strict proof to disclose a true executed legible agreement on which its claim relies upon and not mislead the court. 12. It is denied I have ever received a default Notice pursuant to sec 87(1) CCA1974.The claimant is put to strict proof to evidence from the original creditors internal document software the trigger of said notice.  13.   As per CPR 1.4(2)(a) the court encourages parties to cooperate with each other in the conduct of proceedings in order to try and save time and costs for the parties and to also save the time and resources of the court however, despite vast attempts at mediation the claimants have been most unreasonable and have remained unwilling to mediate. 14. Until such time the claimant can comply and disclose a true executed copy of the original assigned agreement they refer to within the particulars of this claim they are not entitled while the default continues, to enforce the agreement pursuant to section 78.6 (a) of the Credit Consumer Act 1974. I believe that the facts stated in this Witness Statement are true.  I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. Signed                 ………………………………………………….. Name                  XXXX Date                     30 April 2024   Run 3 copies Court /Claimants Sol/File
    • As one of you mentioned above I've been in a mess for nearly 20 years now and I'm ready to sort my credit report out now - the main reason I got into second round of debt is my kids being unwell and the state considering them not unwell enough for extra help so despite my son being in hospital for 3 months in one year we got extra zero help and I eventually lost my job and got into debt to just so I can be تا my sons hospital bed at his time of need - my life basically fell apart and all these debts got me again 
    • Gosh mate I've woke up this morning with half the worry I had last night when going to sleep!.  I can't believe how much this forum has helped me over the years and I don't  have the words to explain the gratitude I feel towards you guys -  Now that I've slept on it I feel ready to reject this company and my plan is to make them an offer to accept payments to date as full and final settlement - I will I think write them a letter once my review is completed or maybe just send it now whilst they are reviewing explaining my kids are unwell for which reason I'm struggling to survive and if I can politely request for them to accept payment to date as a full and final - I'll mention I don't have any cash or anyone to borrow from to offer a full or even part amount of the remaining balance of the iva and therfore am unable to make a offer of payment.   If they agree to at least even put my offer to the creditors then I feel it's better I hang in there and that way I won't have to deal with any possibilities of more defaults and ccjs    Right now the only adverse effects on my credit report are the iva that is now 3 years old and 2 Ccj one coming of this July and one thus October.    But I am worried new action will begin and new defaults and Ccj may start to appear because I've paying into an agreement im under the impression the 6 year rules starts again so yes I have lost of mixed feelings about this but I'm not going to lie you guys have put some life back into my breath this week as for the last 3 years I've felt caged like an animal and this morning I feel freer I can't explain how much but certainly my soul feel lighter today thanks to yin because I'm now viewing this review totally different to I do yesterday thanks to you guys 
    • Court name UNKNOWN Case number ********** Amount N/A Confirmed by Insolvency Service Date issued May 2021 Type Voluntary Arrangement Notes If you have questions about voluntary arrangements you should speak to the Insolvency Service.     I started this in 2021. So it's been about 3 years I've been paying. 
    • Thanks @lookinforinfo@Nicky Boyi sent across the agreement earlier in this thread. No mention of financial reward to the MA. But, I wouldn't be surprised if it was done on the sly. As I said earlier, the owner of OPS is a convicted criminal, with a very shady reputation around these parts.
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Hi guys just need some advice really, basically brought a property some years ago, and as property prices went down and credit crunch kicked in, I had to move back in with my parents oweing to no income, couldn't sell the property as the sale would not have covered the outstanding mortgage and would have left a shortfall, therefore, having no other option I eventually rented the property out, however, as the property was vacant for quite a while there are quite alot of arrears outstanding from last year but payments have been made this year as you can guess, the mortgage is not a buy to let. Basically my mortgage lender is taking me to court, not for reposession but to get a court order to say they will reposess unless I maintain my proposed payments. They are willing to capitalise the arrears after a set amount of monthly payments. I have made all payments this year apart from around 2 months again due to property being vacant. I need some advice on whether I need to come clean and just advise the lender that the property is now rented out as it seems to me that they will find this out anyway, Im worried that Im about to land in some deep Cr4p!!!! I know what I did was wrong however, I feel like I had no other choice, I am in debt already, and this property will eventually be my get out of debt card.

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H there, sorry for delay.

 

You are certainly in the horns of a dilemma - on the one hand you have made an effort to service your mortgage payments by letting the property. However you would almost certainly need permission from the lender to put a tenant in the property.

 

The choices are - you tell the lender and hope you can get their agreement to let the property, or - you enter your defence (I'm assuming you have an N11M defence form from the court?) stating you are able to make the payments going forward + an amount each month towards the arrears, without mentioning that it is rented. The choice has to be yours.

 

In any event you need to send your defence in to court before the hearing and we can help you with that - what date is the hearing?

 

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Thank you so much for gettin back to me, I really really appreciate it....I have not at this stage recieved any documents from the lender or a hearing date as of yet apart from a 15 day notice to clear the arrears, or legal action will begin. I have however, spoken to them and they have advised me that if i cannot clear the arrears within the 15 days, then their solicitors will be in touch with me and that I will need to put a proposal of payment forward to them so that they can present this to court. After this I need to make six consecutive payments, after which they will consider capitalising the arrears.

 

Thank you so much for getting back once again Ell-enn, I feel relieved already. If I was to file a defense will the solicitors/courts not ask for evidence of income/expenditure etc? I'm sure I will be able to maintain the next 6 monthly payments with a little ontop to cover the arrears, so if I put a proposal of this in the defense, will that stop further action?

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Today recieved my letter from the solicitors of the bank, I want to make a proposal of payments however, they have attached an income and expenditure sheet and Im not sure quite how to complete it given my situation as mentioned in the post above. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Personally I would not tell them its rented. Why cause more problems for yourself...

 

It all depends on your mortgage? Has it gone low because of the interest rate?

 

There are different angles you can use with different lenders. Please give some figures and then we ca work out how to go forward.

 

All they want to see is regular payments as long as it covers the mortgage, and then a little extra towards the arrears and then after 6 months some of the lenders will allow you to add the arrears onto the loan and start from scratch, then you can wait until the market gets better before you sell but again depends on figures and lender involved.

 

Most of the time if you tell the judge you are proposing to pay a little towards arrears and the mortgage every month they will give a suspended order as long as you continue. Its all about running your negotiations with them and start off minimally and see what they accept. It is worthwhile sometimes to inform the opposing solicitor beforehand s they tell the judge for you that you have a payment plan ready aswell...

 

Good Luck!

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Hi, read your original mortgage contract to see if it specifically mentions anything about renting the property out before you do anything else. If it doesn't say you can't - then you would assume you can :)

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Thank you guys for the advice. It does say that I can't do this without the lenders permission. arrears are just under £9000. I have been advised that I can make a proposal which will need to cover the monthly repayment and then a little ontop and provided I don't break this arrangement they will capitalise the arrears. How would I g about filling the income and expenditure? Especially as they have stated that they could possible ask for evidence of the income and expenditure at a later date.

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Are you in employment? if so, will your income cover the mortgage and bills? (on paper)

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I am not implying to do anything illegal or of such but you could perhaps do a little expenditure that will fit the amount to pay the mortgage and small arrears. I cannot see them asking for proof, if this does happen then leave a few days and change strategy, ie say you lost your job and revise it. You can get away with not filling it in, they just want to see the regular payments coming in. If it is right at the last minute and they demand this then I would fill it in.

 

Be warned this way it could backfire, I have gone through this a few times but although they were all BTL they have only ever asked for proof of tenancies so its a different scenarios to yours... Sometimes a little white lie just to keep things simple but only do this if you have confidence you will be able to keep up with the payment plan...

 

Please really think about which angle you go down but dont get stressed as it will cloud your judgement, just take your time and be confident whcih route you will try...

 

Good luck!

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This is my advice and it's based on experience:

Do not let the property out, but, stay in it yourself and then take in lodgers. Make sure your official address is the property you own. Be grateful that you are dealing with a good lender and give him a realistic proposal including your income and expenditure sheet. The income from the lodgers should meet the income from alledged tenants, why, it should be enough to cover mortgage plus whatever you can on top. Ensure you maitain these payments for the period your lender reqires and then agree to re-capitilise. They are giving you a ''get out of jail card'' and not many mortgagoors are that lucky. lf you do not mess this one up, you should be alright and the whole dingaling sorted within a few years.

Best of luck.

GR

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Gustavius thank you so much for that info, so I will fill out the income and expenditure to say they are lodgers and then work out the gas/electric etc... they do pay me the majority of the amount that would go towards the mortgage, I would have to pay around 150, however, then the bills council tax etc would be paid by me right?

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Gustavius thank you so much for that info, so I will fill out the income and expenditure to say they are lodgers and then work out the gas/electric etc... they do pay me the majority of the amount that would go towards the mortgage, I would have to pay around 150, however, then the bills council tax etc would be paid by me right?

 

lt depends how you set it up. Normally you would charge, say £85 per room including bills or £120 to £130 for a double room including bills. You could also lower the rent and charge portions of the bills to the rooms on a weekl/monthly basis. Best, though, is a clean £120 per week for each of the one or two double bedrooms you have available, including bills.

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HELP!!!! An update on this situation, I have made a proposal of payment to solicitors and they are happy with t, however, I thought that was the end of my bit, untill I discovered the defence form for court which I have just tried to submit online as its due tomoro, however, it's not letting me do it!!!! Why me???!!!! Can sopmeone please tell me what I need to do or can do? I basically have o defence will they reposess my flat?

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Well if you are going to court and they are trying to repossess. If I understand correctly this is your first court case and you are going?

 

If yes, then arrive earlier and ask usher or clerk to let you know other solicitor arrives before you go in. When you meet solicitor tell them you want a suspended order subject to you keeping to the payment plan already agreed, see if you can get them to agree. They normally agree if it is a reasonable payment plan, then they will explain to the judge that they recommend suspended order as long as payment are made. If they dont agree then explain to judge you are looking to continue with payment plan and you want a suspended order, they normally give you a fair chance to show them you are making an effort.

 

Thats all you need to do, the judge normally takes the time to explain it quickly to you.

 

I hope this helps.

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Streesed 150,

Did you know you can submit forms to the Court via Fax - it is acceptable.

Call the Court and get their Fax number would do not harm to advise on the situation (short on time).

 

No expert but this is what I did (I was runnig low on time)...it was fine.:)

All the best DDD

Season greetings at Christmas & Happy New Year to all!

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Hi guys it's been a while since I updated this, but really wanted to say thank you very much to everyone who helped me out with this, I'm happy to say that I am back on my feet with he flat and have mantained my monthly payments inline with my arrangement via the court. Therefore, my lender has since capitalised the arrears and I still have my flat. Finally feel like I'm getting above board...!

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