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    • in order for us to help you we require the following information:- Which Court have you received the claim from ? Canterbury If possible please scan redact and upload a full page copy of page 1 of the claim form. ( Name of the Claimant ? Moneybarn No 1   How many defendant's  joint or self ? One Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to. 29/05/24 Acknowledged by 14/06/24  Defence by 29/06/24  Particulars of Claim PARTICULARS OF CLAIM   1.  By a Conditional Sale Agreement in writing made on 25th August 2022. Between the Claimant and Defendant, the Claimant let to the Defendant on Conditional Sale. A Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi (200 P S) 4x4 Wildtrack  Double Cab Pickup 3200cc (Sep.2015) Registration No, ******* Chassis number ***************** (“The Vehicle”).  A copy of the agreement is attached   2.  The price of the goods was £15,995.00.  The Initial Rental was £8500.00.  The total charge for credit was £3575.;17 And the balance of £11,070.17 was payable by 59 equal consecutive monthly instalments of £187 63. payable on the 25th of each month.   3.  The following were expressed conditions of the set agreement,   Clause 8: Our Right to End this Agreement  8.1   Subject to sending you the notice as required by law, any of the following events will entitle us to end this Agreement: 8.1.2  You fail to pay the advance payment (if any) or any of the payments as specified on the front page of this agreement or any other sum payable under this Agreement. 8.1.3 If any of the information you have given us before entering into this Agreement or during the term of this Agreement was false 8.1.4 We consider, acting reasonably, that the goods may be in jeopardy or that our rights in the goods may otherwise be prejudiced. 8.1.5 If you die 8.1.6 If a bankruptcy petition is presented against you; if you petition for your own bankruptcy, or make a live arrangement with your creditors or call a meeting of them. 8. 1.7 If in Scotland, you become insolvent or sequestration or a receiver, judicial factor or trustee to be appointed over any of your estate, or effects or suffer an arrestment, charge attachment or other diligence to be issued or levied on any of your estate or effects or suffer any exercise, or threatened exercise of landlords hype hypothec 8.1.8 If you are a partnership, you are dissolved 8.1.9 If the goods are destroyed, lost, stolen and/or treated by the insurer as a total loss in response to an insurance claim. 8.1.10 If we reasonably believe any payment made to us in respect of this Agreement is a proceed of crime. 8.1.11 If steps are taken by us to terminate any other agreement which you have entered into with us.   Clause 9.  Effect of Us Terminating Agreement   9.1 If this Agreement terminates under clause 8 the following will apply 9.1.1 Subject to the rights given to you by law, you will no longer be entitled to possession of the goods and must return them to us to an address as we may reasonably specify, (removing or commencing the removal of any cherished plates) together with a V5 registration certificate, both sets of keys and a service record book. If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate   4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:-   a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement number 756050. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     Thw total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by Firrst class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges ]= 5.  A the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or  alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage.   Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs.   Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024   What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg
    • Now that is an interesting article which adds afew perspective that I hadn't thought significant - but on reflection of the perspectives offered ... Now Starmer is no Blair, however 'blairite he may be perceived, but the Tories aren't tories and aren't even remotely liberal   The fast 'unannounced and unexpected election call from sunack may well be explained by the opinion linked that he hoped reform would be unprepared and effectively call a chunk of Farages largely empty bluster - making him look even more of a prat, leave scope for attacks on shabby reform candidates and mimimise core vote losses to reform - while throwing the 'middle ground' (relative) tories TO THE DOGS - and with the added bonus of likely pacifying his missu' desire to jogg off to sunny cal tout suite somewhat   thumb in the air - I expect about 140ish tory seats, but can hope for under a hundred Reform - got to admit the outside possibility of 1, maybe 2 seats with about 8% of the vote - but unlikely. I think projections of over 10% of the vote for reform is nudged and paid for speculation - but possible with the expected massive drives from Russian, Chinese and far right social media bot and troll prods targeting the gullible.
    • Commentary June 2024 WWW.ELECTORALCALCULUS.CO.UK Interesting article about just how bad it could be for the Tories.  Also Tories could be hoping on Reform not having candidates in many seats, as they were not ready.  
    • Even a Piers Morgan is an improvement and a gutless Farage Piers Morgan calls for second Brexit referendum WWW.THELONDONECONOMIC.COM Piers Morgan and Nigel Farage have faced off over Brexit and a second referendum in a heated reunion on BBC Question Time.   “Why don’t we have another referendum about Brexit?” he questioned. “I seem to remember when 2016 came around we were told there was going to be control of our borders and it was going to be economically beneficial to this country. And eight years later we have lost complete control of our borders… and economically it seems to have been a wilful act of self-harm.”   ... Piers missed off : after all somebody said a 48/52 decision would be "unfinished business" by a long way - was that person just bul lying (again)  
    • when did they (who) inform you there was a 'police case' and when was this attained? i will guess the debt is now SB'd as it's UAE 15yrs. have you informed the bsnk ever by email/letter of your correct and current address? you can always ignore anyone else accept the bank,  Block and bounce back all emails. Block any text messages  Ignore any letters unless it's: - a Statutory Demand - a Letter Of Claim - a Court Claimform via Northants bulk.  
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Have a friend who has a debt problem with a few debt companies chasing her, she asked for my help and I was happy to do so but she wanted she wanted to deal with them one at a time fair enough.

We dealt with the first one as they failed to provide a CCA request and heard nothing since.

But before the next one (I am not privy to how many she has) she received a statutory notice from Capquest. The story as I understand it is that its from a credit card which she has been paying until has became seriously ill, they agreed to a lower payment and the debt was passed to Crapquest.

Managed for some time (years she says) no problems, she paid what she could on a budget but as the norm they keep asking for more but they have becoming more aggressive recently refusing her payment.

Then last week she received the statutory notice, on Friday I gave her a CCA letter which she sent by recorded delivery.

Interestingly she is on incapacity benefit and lives in furnished rented accommodation (me and my Mrs) and no assets or savings of any kind.

On that premise she says she is not bothered by the statutory notice as they can’t touch her incapacity benefit and nothing of value they can take off her.

Thoughts ladies and gentlemen please.

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A statutory demand gives a person 21 days warning to pay the debt. After that the statutory demand has run it course and it can followed by a bankruptcy petition.

 

In the minds of a creditor or a creditor’s solicitor a statutory demand is the legal equivalent of a 'warning shot from a gun'. This is because the average debtor is so scared by 'what may follow' that they usually pay up.

 

In fact statutory demands are so successful that in 99% of cases following the issue of a statutory demand a bankruptcy petition NEVER is issued.

 

Please note that a statutory demand in 90% of instances is 'bluffing technique' used to scare a person into paying up. If a bankruptcy petition does not follow then this will become apparent.

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Discussed this with her and her opinion (right or wrong) is with no assets she has nothing to offer except a token payment therefore if they want to petition for bankruptcy that’s up to them.

She thinks that they cannot make her bankrupt as you have to sign the petition and the fact it costs as she has not money to pay for bankruptcy.

As she has no/little future (true) there is little they could do to her.

My question is this flawed thinking and what argument should I put to her to fight/defend this action.

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Well, I never took CapQuest too seriously when they contacted me. They are notorious liars and cheats. They purchased an old Egg loan, which had previously been set aside by the county court.

 

Actually, a previously disputed account cannot be sold to a DCA, but Egg pulled a fast one on CapQuest and duped them into buying the account. Nice one, Egg, you C**pped on CrapQuest.

 

I played along with CapQuest, a lady by the name of Anne McShane was assigned to "help" me, as she put it.

 

For over 12 months she kept sending ridiculous emails, asking for payments. I played along with her, even doing a CCA on them. They fought tooth and nail not to send it, citing the DPA, etc. Eventually, they sent it.

 

However, the CCA was non-compliant and I sent a dispute letter to them, which halts all collections activity, interest and reporting to third parties.

 

My "helper", Anne McShane, still keptsending emails asking for payments. on one day she sent several emails. One simply said "please respond", and she sent it less than 20 minutes after sending the previous one. (Harassment springs to mind).

 

I took great pleasure in finally sending them a copy of the county court set-aside letter that I had received back in 2005, explaining to those morons that it was illegal for them to even have purchased the debt, let alone for Anne McShane to have emailed me so many times trying to make a collection.

 

Having realised that they had been rumbled, CapQuest closed the account and said that they had made a mistake.

 

I called my "helper" Anne to ask for a refund of payments made to them and was greated with a torrent of abuse. I explained to her that it was a collection call-I made several such calls-and explained to her that if she preferred, I could call her out of office hours on her mobile or home numbers, or alternatively arrange for a "doorstep" collector to call.

 

I can't understand why she became so angry?

 

It now transpires that her direct telephone line is no longer in use.

 

However, she did upset a lot of people and her details were publicized widely on the internet. It appears that she got multiple calls and emails from all sorts of people: debt collectors, insurance quotes, car hire quotes, double glazing quotes, etc.

 

Perhaps this is a classic case of someone who is happy giving out s**t but not taking it?

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My friend received a reply mid last week she said they have sent it and Ill have to pay.

As she was quite upset I asked if she wouldn’t mine if I could see it and found it to be an application form so Mon they will receive an account in dispute letter.

 

Not sure what happens to the statutory notice now ??

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My friend received this :-

http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu247/Merganser/edited.jpg

 

any thoughts on a suitable reply please.

 

My initial thought would be to refute their thought that they have provided a copy of the agreement which they sent a copy of the application form.

 

second is data processing and the defaults

 

most important is the acrewing of further interest even though on the face of is they at this time cannot collect on the dept.

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My friend received this :-

http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu247/Merganser/edited.jpg

 

any thoughts on a suitable reply please.

 

My initial thought would be to refute their thought that they have provided a copy of the agreement which they sent a copy of the application form.

 

second is data processing and the defaults

 

most important is the acrewing of further interest even though on the face of is they at this time cannot collect on the dept.

 

Haha. IDENTICAL letter to mine and they lie as always. It is unlawful to add interest, ask for payments or contact third parties when an account is disputed.

 

In my case, the CCA was a pile of unenforceable junk, although of course they claimed that any dispute was "unfounded". However, I proved a prior dispute with the OC, as I had previously had a CCJ set aside on the account. CapQuest closed the account.

 

Of course, they still registered a default on my CRA file which I am trying to get removed. CapQuest will lie through their teeth, so watch out.

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