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    • I'm at work now but promise to look in later. Can you confirm how you paid the first invoice?  It wasn't your fault if the signal was so poor and there was no alternative way to pay.  There must be a chance of reversing the charge with your bank.  There are no guarantees but Kev  https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/09766749/officers  has never had the backbone to do court so far.  Not even in one case,  
    • OK  so you may not have outed yourself if you said "we". No matter either way you paid. Snotty letter I am surprised that they were so quick off the mark threatening Court. They usually take months to go that far. No doubt that as you paid the first one they decided to strike quickly and scare you into paying. Dear Chuckleheads  aka Alliance,  I am replying to your LOCs You may have caught me the first time but that is  the end. What a nasty organisation you are. You do realise that you now have now no reason to continue to pursue me after reading my appeal since you know that my car was not cloned. Any further pursuit will end up with a complaint to the ICO that you are breaching my GDPR.  Please confirm that you have removed my details from your records. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I haven't gone for a snotty letter this time as they know that you paid for your car in another car park. So using a shot across their bows .  If it doesn't deter them and they send in the debt collectors or the Court you will then be able to get more money back from them for  breachi.ng your data protection than they will get should they win in Court-and they have no chance of that as you have paid. So go in with guns blazing and they might see sense.  Although never underestimate how stupid they are. Or greedy.
    • Thank you. Such a good point. They did issue all 3 before I paid though. I only paid one because I didn’t have proof of parking that time, only for two others.    Unfortunately no proof of my appeal as it was just submitted through a form on their website and no copy was sent to me. I only have the reply. I believe I just put something like “we made the honest mistake of using the incorrect parking area on the app” and that’s it. Thanks again for your help. 
    • They are absolute chuckleheads. You paid but because you entered a different car park site also belonging to them they are pursuing you despite them knowing what you had done. It would be very obvious to everyone, including Alliance that your car could not have been in two places at the same time. Thank you for posting the PCN so quickly making it a pity that you appealed since there are so many things wrong with it that you as keeper are not liable to pay the charge. They rarely accept appeals since that would mean they lose money but they have virtually no chance of beating you in Court. Very unlikely that they will take you to Court given the circumstances. Just in case you didn't out yourself as the driver could you please post up your appeal.
    • Jasowter I hope that common sense prevails with Iceland and the whole matter can be successfully ended. I would perhaps not have used a spell checker just to prove the dyslexia 🙂 though it may have made it more difficult to read. I noticed that you haven't uploaded the original PCN .Might not be necessary if the nes from Iceland is good. Otherwise perhaps you could get your son to do it by following the upload instructions so that we can appeal again with the extra ammunition provided by the PCN. Most of them rarely manage to get the wording right which means that you as the keeper are not liable to pay the charge-only the driver is and they do not know the name and address of the driver. So that would put you both in the clear if the PCN is non compliant.
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I have staff privileges for parking at a hospital where I am training. I don't remember signing anything just giving my information for a permit.

 

I got a ticket for parking on the grass next to a staff parking sign in a full car park out of the way of the other cars. I have seen this done before so assumed it was acceptable and in other areas of the car park have parked on grass many times without issue.

 

I am considering waiting and seeing and appealing if the do contact me. I went away soon after getting the ticket on the day so have missed their 7 day appeal period. I would have paid the 15 pounds had I been in the country during that period but I missed it totally my fault there.

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There is no appeals process. It's a private company - as if they're going to turn down profit by allowing 'appeals'.

 

• do not pay

• do not contact them

ignore their threatening junk

• they will give up and go away

 

It's a [problem]

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Sorry if this information is elsewhere I have searched but not found. Is the the situation not different from for example a supermarket car park as I assume they have a parking management contract with the hospital and I although not employed by hospital as such have been given a permit for reduced price parking. I did pay and display that day as usual.

 

I assume they will contact me eventually. I don't believe I gave my address but my concern is if I did sign something I did pay and display so I have fullfilled my part of the deal however no parking available that day so I made a reasonable assessment and part parked on the grass which i have done before without issue.

 

Sooo do I ready letters from the templates?

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Am reading the threads in this forum and seeing most people rely on the fact that the company can't prove registered owner was driver. In my case however I have a permit for the car park and only I am supposed to use that permit there.

 

Does anyone think this makes a difference?

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Its badly badly written on further inspection. I am tempted to send them a letter saying this:

 

I recently received a letter purporting to be from your solicitors alleging an amount outstanding for an incident reference number CNNxxxxxxx. I have been advised to request from yourselves further information on the legal basis on which you are applying this amount and evidence, including photographic of the alleged incidence.

I would like to kindly ask that you desist from any further threatening or harassing letters from yourselves or your representatives. Any further correspondence of this kind will result in my taking legal action.

Just in case I do get that mythical court date I have actually responded.

 

What does anyone think?

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It'll have the opposite effect of what you're trying to achieve. Rather than desisting, their eyes will light up and you'll be harassed for longer.

 

Trethowans only send out a couple of letters anyway. You're near the end of the [problem] - just ignore them.

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Its badly badly written on further inspection. I am tempted to send them a letter saying this:

 

I recently received a letter purporting to be from your solicitors alleging an amount outstanding for an incident reference number CNNxxxxxxx. I have been advised to request from yourselves further information on the legal basis on which you are applying this amount and evidence, including photographic of the alleged incidence.

They will try and charge you for photographs that have no evidential value whatsoever.

I would like to kindly ask that you desist from any further threatening or harassing letters from yourselves or your representatives.

This will just encourage them to send more than ever.

Any further correspondence of this kind will result in my taking legal action.

This will just have them laughing.

Just in case I do get that mythical court date I have actually responded.

 

The point of that being?????

 

What does anyone think?

 

Waste of your time and a stamp.

 

regards

Please remember our troops, fighting and dying in our name. God protect them.

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Too true I think. I am just going to take a deep breath and chill again. I think I feel better having written. Its annoying how this plays on my mind though so that's why I want to do something.

 

Bear with me will probably write again after my next letter.

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StuMid,

 

You will hurt them more than ever by ignoring them, that really winds them up and puts them on the back foot completely.

I know it is hard to resist firing off a letter at them, but then they know they have got hold of someone and they are concerned about the matter enough to contact them.

Ignoring them is best policy and believe me you are really getting back at them.

regards

Please remember our troops, fighting and dying in our name. God protect them.

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