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    • I have recently found myself in financial difficulties and with the help of forum members in another thread regarding this, I think I can get myself sorted. My query here is how to deal with a Cifas marker that has been logged against me by one of my creditors for "evasion of payment". Admittedly yes I did get a £5000 loan with them and have not paid any payment but at the start of the year, which is when the loan landed, I realised I was going to be struggling to repay that and other debts and I contacted MCB to ask if there was any way I could extend the loan from 24 months to 36 months. I explained my situation and that I was going with a DMP and asked them if they could help me with this. They did not reply. I then emailed them again a month later explaining that my DMP was going ahead and could they confirm that the direct debit was indeed cancelled. Again, they did not reply. The DMP fell apart and so did everything else thereafter. My bank withdrew my overdraft and said I could not stay with them (I thought initially that it was because of the DMP) so I opened another account (Starling) and set up all my direct debits etc with the new bank. A month into being with the new bank, they contacted me and said they were closing my account in three months. So I started applying for other basic accounts and every single one of them either refused or revoked.  Through the help in the other thread, I requested a SAR from Cifas and discovered that I have this marker against my name for "evasion of payment". I have logged a complaint with MCB on the advice of other forum members, but my query really is do you think the marker is fair given that I did ask them for help and I did explain that I was going to be struggling financially to repay the loan over the original two years, and is there any way that I can get it removed? I fully admit that I have yet to make a payment to them and I suppose in my naivety and panic I thought if I emailed them early on they could extend the loan and help me out, but they didn't even reply  I did manage to open an account with Monzo before the marker was in place, but I am very concerned that if Monzo do what Starling did, I will have no bank account to pay my bills or get my wages paid into.  Realistically based on the information I have given here, what do you think my chances are of getting this marker removed? Any help/advice on this would be greatly appreciated x
    • Thank you dx, that is what I intend to do now. I have gone through all the SAR documents, a lot of which I am seeing for the first time! As per my previous post #116 letters and statements alleged to have been sent to me, as recorded on their system notes I have not received. Letters I have sent requesting information and account statements have not been recorded as being received by them, all were sent either by Recorded or Special Delivery. I have all the proof you menrtioned from my files for payments and from their SAR info for fees added. Thanks t
    • In my experience (not with car payments) but with many other things, my partner has been ill and signed off in the past and we have been unable to meet various commitments.  Naturally if you ring the call centre they are going to fob you off and tell you you must pay, that's why that never ever works. I would obtain a note from her GP listing all her health issues plus medications plus side effects, then write to the finance company with a copy of it, explaining the situation, as you have here, asking for a payment holiday. Perhaps mention that the car is very much needed for hospital appointments etc. It's likely the finance company would rather you pay till term end than, chase you for money they will never see, and sell the car at auction for a loss,  You can search some of my threads going back years, advising people to do this for Council Tax, Tax Credits, HMRC, Even a solicitors company and it always works, because contrary to popular belief people are reasonable.
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    • Thank you! Your head is like a power bank of knowledge.  Her health issues are short term, due to a relationship breakdown she took it pretty hard and has been signed off work on medication for 3 months. She only started her job in February 24 so does not qualify for any occupational sick benefits, which is where the ssp only comes in. (You will see me posting a few things over the coming days, whilst I try and sort some things for her)  I sat with her last night relaying all this back and she does want to work out a plan, she was ready to propose £100 for the next 3 months and then an additional £70 per month onto of her contractual to "catch up" but Money247 rejecting the payment holiday and demanding £200 thew her, which is why I came on here.   
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assignment

 

so you need to put them to strict proof as to the method and time of delivery of the assignment.

 

they say that the assignment was dated the same day as the DN

 

was this THEIR HELLO to you?

 

where is the GOODBYE from the OC?

 

you are entitled when receiving the HELLo to ask to see the original - did you? if so then that could not have been accomplished before the DN was served.

 

Until you have satisfied yourself that the assignee can give you good discharge you should not need to respond to the DN

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As far as Service of the NoA goes - they have to send it registered post or they (usually using a enquiry agent) would have to deliver it to your house - if they haven't AND you have not acknowledged service then the notice is not valid BUT and it is a very big BUT:-

 

There are no requirements as to the precise contents of an NoA - so if they send a letter headed NoA that you don't receive but at some point in the future you get a letter that shows on the heading that there has been an assigment IMO if you respond to that letter then it may well amount to a valid NoA

 

There are other issues surrounding Notices which may invalidate them but in terms of service if they haven't used the procedure laid down in the LPA then UNLESS you have acknowledged the letter/notice - either in writing or by telephone or by paying them - then the NoA is invalid

 

The other thing to remember is that a valid NoA should be served before proceedings are issued - if the NoA is invalid then they would to discontinue BUTthey could serve a proper NoA and start again

 

I don't think that there is a breach of the Data Protection Act basically, unless there is an express term in the contract which prevents/limits assignments, the OC has a right in principle to assign - although there may be an issue depending who they assign to.

 

You are not entited to reasons why they have assigned. You can ask but they don't have to tell you.

 

You are also, as a matter of law, entitled to see the assignment.

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yes the copy is that bad

 

marlin/arrow blew it up in there defence

 

the original is just as bad

 

then they have not complied with s78 of the cca which requires that all documents sent in response to the request MUST be EASILY legible

 

they are therefore still in default and cannot start enforcement proceedings since you(your friend) cannot ascetain what it is he has signed.

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Thanks For This People

 

What I Need Confirmed Is

 

Can Documents Be Served On A Saturday

 

This Was There Response To The Defence Ref The Default Notice

 

the Civil Procedure Rules Were Ammended On The 1 October 2008 However, Prior To That It Was Accepted That Documents Could Be Deemed Served On A Saturday

 

So If True And Not A Smoke Screen, Whats The Score

 

I Dont Want To End Up With Egg On My Face

 

in view of the time limit i would hit the triangle with this one and get the site team to give some help

 

it is my opinion that CPR rules do not apply to default notices as this is not part of the court process but i could be wrong

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Hiya just putting my 2 penneth in.

 

Re Default.

 

There is at least one reason for it to be invalid ,and possibly two.

It has stated an arrears amount which includes unlawful charges which renders it void and there is also the good possibilty that the serving of the default did not give the full 14 days for remedy....unless they can prove otherwise.

 

The NOA as Diddy says, should have been served by signed for post of some description in order for it to be served correctly so if it has not been acknowledged by your friend they have to prove it has been sent and also that they have been assigned the 'debt' absolute otherwise they have no right to commence court proceedings.

 

Your friend has to be convinced they own the debt otherwise any old Tom Diddy dicky :p or Harry could take them to court and say he owes them money.

 

Therefore a request for disclosure of the Deed of assignment should be sought at the court proceedings.

ALSO... although a NOA does not have to have an amount or date stated on it, if it does it MUST be correct. Therefore once again, if there are unlawful charges included in that amount the NOA has been rendered invalid.

The agreement as diddy says is illegible and that is another nail in their coffin.

 

There is plenty there that indicates your friend could have a good defence if he can get hold of the right documents.

 

I have no clue how a summary judgement works .... is it that your friend did not submit a defence in time and therefore they get the judgement by default.?

 

If that is the case, rather than going in unprepared it may be best to let the judgement be granted and then start working on getting it set aside. Get the sars off to OC and alleged new owner and dredge up as much info and ammo as possible to turn it over and get it struck out.

 

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just reading another with out prejudice letter from mortimer clark

 

DEFAULT NOTICE

 

THE DEFAULT NOTICE PROVIDED IN OUR LETTER DATED 3 MARCH 2009 IS A COMPUTER GENERATED COPY OF THE ORIGINAL WHICH WAS ORIGINALLY ISSUED ON HEADED PAPER OF ARROW GLOBAL LLC WITH THERE ADDRESS UNDER SEC 15C OF THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THE AGREEMENT, IT STATES THAT MBNA MAY TRANSFER THE RIGHTS OR OBLIGATIONS UNDER THIS AGREEMENT.

AS ARROW GLOBAL WERE THE ASSIGNEE OF THE DEBT THEY WERE WITHIN THERE RIGHTS TO ISSUE THE DEFAULT NOTICE ON YOU

 

SO PRODUCE THE DEFAULT NOTICE ON GLOBAL LETTER HEAD THEN

 

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Is there any way you can get the proceedings adjourned by requesting they produce the deed of assignment at court to prove ownership?

 

It might give that little bit of extra time to get The SARs sorted and gather more info.

 

As I say, I'm not really informed about this side of court proceedings as I'm attacking from the set aside angle...

 

Can you ask for time while relevent paperwork is produced?... You should at least be able to see the original signed agreement as that thing you've posted is impossible to read and could say anything!

 

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just reading another with out prejudice letter from mortimer clark

 

DEFAULT NOTICE

 

THE DEFAULT NOTICE PROVIDED IN OUR LETTER DATED 3 MARCH 2009 IS A COMPUTER GENERATED COPY OF THE ORIGINAL WHICH WAS ORIGINALLY ISSUED ON HEADED PAPER OF ARROW GLOBAL LLC WITH THERE ADDRESS UNDER SEC 15C OF THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THE AGREEMENT, IT STATES THAT MBNA MAY TRANSFER THE RIGHTS OR OBLIGATIONS UNDER THIS AGREEMENT.

AS ARROW GLOBAL WERE THE ASSIGNEE OF THE DEBT THEY WERE WITHIN THERE RIGHTS TO ISSUE THE DEFAULT NOTICE ON YOU

 

SO PRODUCE THE DEFAULT NOTICE ON GLOBAL LETTER HEAD THEN

 

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I would still advocate that they need to prove ownership...

 

What is to stop me sending you a letter on headed paper saying I've just bought your debt off MBNA..... you now owe me... how do you know it's not a [problem]!! Did MBNA send a letter saying they sold it?

 

Strict proof of ownership is what is needed here

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Thanks For Dropping In Pt

 

My Problem With This Is He Has A Court Appearence On Monday For A Summary Judgement

 

All Correspondants Are On Plain A4 Paper With No Letter Heads Or Address, Looks Like They Have Just Been Knocked Up To Comply With The Cpr

 

They Prove Nothing

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Again, Thats The Point

 

He Has Had No Letter From Mbna Saying The Debt Has Been Assigned , Even Requested Under Cpr, A No Show

 

If the documents you requested under CPR have not been disclosed then It's up to the judge to order that they are at the hearing...

 

What documents, which you requested under CPR have you not seen yet?

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All The Documents Have Now Been Sent By Mortimer Clark Except The Notice Of Assignment From Mbna To Him

 

All The Other Docs Are On Plain A4 Paper That Are Not On Headed Paper

 

Thats Assignment From Arrow To Him

Default Notice

Termination Notice

 

I Could Do A Better Job On My Pc

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All The Documents Have Now Been Sent By Mortimer Clark Except The Notice Of Assignment From Mbna To Him

 

All The Other Docs Are On Plain A4 Paper That Are Not On Headed Paper

 

Thats Assignment From Arrow To Him

Default Notice

Termination Notice

 

I Could Do A Better Job On My Pc

 

Maybe The fact that he hasn't seen the assignment from MBNA to Arrow will be your reason for getting the case adjourned.. Request the judge orders disclosure of the Deed of assignment because until you see it you cannot be sure that Arrow had the right to bring court proceedings.

 

Also request that the original agreement is disclosed so that you can see whether or not it is legible 'in the flesh'

 

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