ACS:Law copyright file sharing claims, Gallant Macmillan - and probably some others along the way...

[narkedoff]

usefull article on the bbc this morning BBC NEWS | Technology | ISP in file-sharing wi-fi hack

 

Wonder if ACS have seen it!

[Nikkinooch]

I sent my 2nd LOD (with my own added bits) around the 20th August 2009 and till now I have not heard anymore. I would like to believe that this is the end of it but I have a feeling it won't be.

 

Just out of curiosity has anyone heard anymore about the illusive Dark Trooper that received 'the brown envelope'?

[Nikkinooch]

I sent my 2nd LOD (with my own added bits) around the 20th August 2009 and till now I have not heard anymore. I would like to believe that this is the end of it but I have a feeling it won't be.

 

Just out of curiosity has anyone heard anymore about the illusive Dark Trooper that received 'the brown envelope'?

 

As they gave me a time limit by which I had to reply does the rules not state that they should reply to me within a certain amount of time???

[andydd]

usefull article on the bbc this morning BBC NEWS | Technology | ISP in file-sharing wi-fi hack

 

Wonder if ACS have seen it!

 

Nothing really new in it, Im currently in bed with my laptop and I can see some neighbours unsecured networks.

 

I note theres a new quote from the BPI saying that people should 'discuss it with fellow householders' if they get the warning letter, it may in the future reach the stage where in multiple person households people would be reluctant to be the actual named personn who sets up the isp account because as the law stands its them and them only who can get into trouble.

 

So noone has heard anything of the supposed court action starting in September ?

 

Andy

[cerberusalert]

So noone has heard anything of the supposed court action starting in September ?

Did they actually mention which year tho'?

[pridewat]

I sent my 2nd LOD (with my own added bits) around the 20th August 2009 and till now I have not heard anymore. I would like to believe that this is the end of it but I have a feeling it won't be.

 

same story here i also have not heard any more after 2nd lod . although they have gone quite after selecting the second batch but i also doubt its the end just yet

 

but i have stopped worrying too much about that . there are lot of better things in life than that

[cashins]

although they have gone quite after selecting the second batch but i also doubt its the end just yet

 

 

I doubt it to, they have too much money rolling in from people who have been scared into paying them.

 

As per Davenport Lyons, I would expect the next thing they will be trumpeting a court case they have 'won'. Closer inspection will probably reveal the case was undefended. (I the DL case there is actually doubt the woman even existed).

 

If they want to try a defended case, this extract from a BBC report shows what they are up against:

 

In order to illustrate the point Matt Roxburgh, a security expert from TalkTalk, visited an ordinary street in Stanmore, Middlesex.

Within a couple of hours he had identified 23 wireless connections on residential street The Highway, which were unsecured.

He downloaded music files from two connections, including Barry Manilow's hit Mandy and the soundtrack to the 1992 film Peter's Friends.

In both cases, the residents had given prior permission to "be hacked" and the content downloaded was legal.

 

Just read that again ('Mandy' & 'Peter's Friends'), duhhhh.....am I the last person on the planet to have got the joke?

 

David

[mr.ton]

I was thinking that ACS had gone very quiet lately?

Me thinks that they've stung bythe public/media backlash & have gone into hiding for a while

[dippycat]

Hi all, I sent a second template letter with bits of my own saying "I do not take thier letter at face value as thiers was a template letter was it not?". As that is why they rejected my letter to them. That was 2 weeks ago not heard a thing yet. This waiting for the next letter to arrive has got me in knots. So I hope they have given up but I dout it.

[mr.ton]

Any letter they send you will also be a template...so 2 can play that game

[Chaduk0369]

Received 3rd letter after LOD. Now saying they are taking me to court. Anyone else in same position as me?

[mr.ton]

Just a threat.

Will cost them money everytime they do take someone to court.

They'd be lucky to recieve £1 per month back if anything at all.

[Huff&Puff]

I agree, it's just more empty threats.

[mr.ton]

I would go so far as to say that ACS Law are now becomming very tiresome to the UK public.

[meep]

Received 3rd letter after LOD. Now saying they are taking me to court. Anyone else in same position as me?

 

Do they actually say that they are taking you to court, or does it say "We have instructions from our client to pursue this matter against you further"? Because that does not say anything about doing anything they aren't already doing. Pursuing the matter further can include writing a million more letters asking for money.

[mr.ton]

Considering that it will cost them money for each person they take to court & that each UK citizen has basic legal rights/protections etc...

Then i do conclude that on the whole, they are full of cr*p & are just relying on people paying up out of fear & ignorance.

[eagleeyedsniper]

D_arktrooper got taken to court. It might be worth getting in touch with him. He's gone quiet lately on the forums.

[cashins]

D_arktrooper got taken to court. It might be worth getting in touch with him. He's gone quiet lately on the forums.

 

If D_arktrooper, (or anyone else for that matter) has been taken to court and lost, it would be trumpeted all over the ACS website by now.

 

David

[mr.ton]

If he did, then it will be interesting to read his feedback on what happened.

Im certainly not suggesting that they dont or wont take anyone to court whatsoever - i said "on the whole"

I would imagine they'd be selective in who they do take to court & many others have stated that.

Even so.. Darktrooper or anyone else would have had/will have basic legal rights & protections from the start etc...

[GTIFreak]

and how do you know this eagle, when is his date?

[mr.ton]

Regardless of weather its a company or an individual taking someone to court to get money off them...both parties dont just turn up on the day & the claimant gets given the full amount there and then (it may happen in rare cases who knows?) - but mostly it doesnt.

The court system takes into account the defendants ability to pay etc...

So assuming thats what happens everytime ACS gets someone to court, then i would assume that on a ratio basis, they are being left worse off as a result of what they are spending taking someone to court than what money they are bringing back in?

[mr.ton]

and how do you know this eagle, when is his date?

 

I was thinking that myself

[andydd]

Do they actually say that they are taking you to court, or does it say "We have instructions from our client to pursue this matter against you further"? Because that does not say anything about doing anything they aren't already doing. Pursuing the matter further can include writing a million more letters asking for money.

 

Similar letters from DCA's are normally full of 'mays' and 'ifs', very rarely a definate 'we will'. I suspect ACS are the same.

 

Andy

[eagleeyedsniper]

He was talking about legal proceedings in his posts.

[mr.ton]

There could be numerous reasons why Darktrooper has not posted.

As mentioned, if ACS had any recent successes, they would have shouted about it from the highest rooftop.