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A Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi (200 P S) 4x4 Wildtrack  Double Cab Pickup 3200cc (Sep.2015) Registration No, ******* Chassis number ***************** (“The Vehicle”).  A copy of the agreement is attached   2.  The price of the goods was £15,995.00.  The Initial Rental was £8500.00.  The total charge for credit was £3575.;17 And the balance of £11,070.17 was payable by 59 equal consecutive monthly instalments of £187 63. payable on the 25th of each month.   3.  The following were expressed conditions of the set agreement,   Clause 8: Our Right to End this Agreement  8.1   Subject to sending you the notice as required by law, any of the following events will entitle us to end this Agreement: 8.1.2  You fail to pay the advance payment (if any) or any of the payments as specified on the front page of this agreement or any other sum payable under this Agreement. 8.1.3 If any of the information you have given us before entering into this Agreement or during the term of this Agreement was false 8.1.4 We consider, acting reasonably, that the goods may be in jeopardy or that our rights in the goods may otherwise be prejudiced. 8.1.5 If you die 8.1.6 If a bankruptcy petition is presented against you; if you petition for your own bankruptcy, or make a live arrangement with your creditors or call a meeting of them. 8. 1.7 If in Scotland, you become insolvent or sequestration or a receiver, judicial factor or trustee to be appointed over any of your estate, or effects or suffer an arrestment, charge attachment or other diligence to be issued or levied on any of your estate or effects or suffer any exercise, or threatened exercise of landlords hype hypothec 8.1.8 If you are a partnership, you are dissolved 8.1.9 If the goods are destroyed, lost, stolen and/or treated by the insurer as a total loss in response to an insurance claim. 8.1.10 If we reasonably believe any payment made to us in respect of this Agreement is a proceed of crime. 8.1.11 If steps are taken by us to terminate any other agreement which you have entered into with us.   Clause 9.  Effect of Us Terminating Agreement   9.1 If this Agreement terminates under clause 8 the following will apply 9.1.1 Subject to the rights given to you by law, you will no longer be entitled to possession of the goods and must return them to us to an address as we may reasonably specify, (removing or commencing the removal of any cherished plates) together with a V5 registration certificate, both sets of keys and a service record book. If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate   4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:-   a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement number 756050. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     Thw total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by Firrst class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges ]= 5.  A the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or  alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage.   Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs.   Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024   What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg
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So guys,

Ive had it with the threats and the random figures they have been spitting out about how much I owe them. Once again I have had a final demand to pay XXX.XX for a loan which was for £100.00

 

In fact, I had one email from Toothfairy themselves at 8am saying I owed one amount but by the time NDR contacted me 3 hours later I owed them £91.00 more!

 

So theyve said that I either pay the full outstanding balance (which is close to £800) on a monthly basis at £100 per month,

 

or I can pay a settlement figure of £350.00 in the next 6 days... I cant pull that amount out of my *ss

 

I am not interested in doing either of these things for a £100 loan. So the court is my only way to go but I need your help!

 

Firstly, I want to request the balance that I owe as a full statement with the exact costs and how they are calculated. Is there a template on here that allows me to do that?

 

Also I want to counterclaim for harassment based on their communications with me over the last few months to include several different email addresses and most recently, my facebook account. Do you think I have the grounds to do this?

 

Finally I want to write to them asking for a copy of the original agreement I signed with TFF. Is there a template anywhere on this forum I can modify to do this?

 

Have I left anything out? I really feel like I am out of my depth in the vast information available on here and really need guidance.

 

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

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Hang on a minute - they actually contacted you through your Facebook account? Has anyone else encountered this?

 

What if they'd messaged the wrong person with details of your debt?!!!

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thats what I thought!

yeah someone else got the same thing on the same day as me!!!

Its so so bad isnt it!

What am I going to do :(

God

 

t03spd. I've just got into work and it's a bit hectic at the mo - try and read through as many PDL threads as you can. There are a couple that are pretty comprehensive in telling you how to deal with this from here. I'll get back on for an hour at lunchtime, and if nobody else has happened along, I'll give you a hand.

 

Chin up!

 

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OK, try these 2 threads for starters - there's a lot of info on them.

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/payday-loans/227609-pay-loan-trap.html

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/payday-loans/214236-yet-another-payday-loan.html

 

As far as taking to them to court for harrassment, I have no direct exeprience of this, so can't really advise much - anyone else know anything?

 

Give me a shout if there's anything else you need.

 

MsW

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I also got a £100 loan from TF, I paid £50 back but have struggled to pay anymore! I'm a full time midwifery student so I'm either at uni or on placement and when they have tried contacting me, I've had some rather aggresive message left.

 

However, I recieved a letter from them at the weekend and on the front of the envolope, viewable to all, it says in big red letters 'FINAL WARNING DO NOT IGNORE. TOOTHFAIRY FINANCE'

Where do I stand? Is it legal for them to put this in full view of everyone? They are also demading a further £180 to be paid!!!

 

Any advice gratefull recieved x

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Hello all,

 

I took out a loan with toothfairy finance around a month ago and have struggled to pay them back (original loan was £200 they are now asking for £798). I had written to them to explain my circumstances after various threatening emails about court actions and phoning my work workplace. I am willing to pay them my original loan amount plus the overdue interest but not all these other "add-ons".

To my horror today I went to the shop and noticed my bank account balance was lower than it should have been. After phoning my bank looking for reasons why I get told that according to their records I used the internet to make 4 transactions to TFF at 3.15am on Saturday morning. Now considering that is not the case and I know very well I had not authorised them I also checked my email and got these messages...

 

The following payment has been successfully received from your account in relation to your loan with ToothFairy Pay Day Loan - Ref 2472970.

 

This will appear on your statement as a debit from: tf-f or London Treasury Services

 

This payment is in accordance with the Standard Terms & Conditions to which you agreed and has been automatically processed by the Toothfairy systems. If you chose to challenge this payment we will have no choice but to fast-track your file for a court judgement; including as part of the court bundle a full list of emails, SMS and phone records as evidence. We will also have to add relevant dispute, processing and legal fees to the sums claimed materially increasing the costs of this debt. It is important you recognise that this debt must be settled and the importance of this payment.

 

Your transaction reference is:

 

 

Tax: nil

 

Shipping: nil

 

Total: GBP 10

 

 

Your balance is now GBP 684

 

Thanks

 

 

Collections Team

Toothfairy Finance

t: 08000 882 222

 

.... I got 4 of these emails, that was the first and the next 3 after that the total amount I owed kept going up. I am worried at the fact that they have access to my bank account at any time.

Has anyone got any advice?

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Hi,

 

I took a loan from these people too but it wasnt through ToothFairy Finance, it was through another company called Speed Credit. It was for £200 and on the due date, I recieved a text stating that if I wanted to roll the loan over to do nothing and be charged £12 a week charges. So I did nothing!

 

I recieved numerous calls, texts and emails threatening to pass the case over to debt collectors. Unfortunately I couldnt pay on the original date due to sickness, however I will be able to pay it at the end of this month.

 

I made a part payment of £100 towards the loan on the 14th.

I have looked at my bank account today and they have taken £249 from my card without my persmission. This has left me with less than nothing as my account is now overdrawn a non existing overdraft! The payment taken is also £10 short of the total owed??

 

I have called Speed Credit and spoke to a rude person called "Claire". She wouldnt give me her surname or extension number for reference. She started off by telling me that I needed to pay the oustanding £10. I queried how they can take the money from my card without permission. The call went round and round in circles stating that it wasnt her who took the money, the system did it (I know that!) and that I will need to pay the £10. I refused to do this as she hasnt answered my query so she put my on hold, came back and said as a goodwill gesture, they have closed the loan!! She stated that it is clearly set out in the terms and conditions that I agreed to that they can and will take the payment from my card if I dont pya( If this is the case, why did they not take the full amount?!). I asked her to show me where it stated it as I had them infront of me and they dont say it anywhere. After about 10 minutes of Claire telling me it is my fault and I obviously had no intention of paying the loan back, she then said that I would need to put my request (of her telling me where in the terms) in writing. I asked why she couldnt tell me and she said she doesnt have access (they are clearly on their website). I then asked for an email address to lodge my complaint in writing and she took my through the website to get the email address!! If she can access the website she can see the terms and conditions.

 

It all seems extremely fishy now and yes, I perhaps should not have taken the loan, however I am now completely out of pocket and dont know what I can do. I am also worried that as they still have my card details, whether my bank account is safe.

 

To top it all off, after getting off the phone to "claire" very upset, I recieve a text from them stating as a loyal customer I can get another loan just by texting them!!

 

I really dont know what I can do, please help.

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Omg please don't put ur personal details like reference numbers on this forum tff will see it and I would report them to trading standards asap for the threatning letters and illegal fraudulent transactions on ur bank account and cxancel ur direct debits and debit cards asap so they cannot access ur bank account and tell ur bank u lost ur card and only pay them by pre paid debit card or faster payment with ur bank ,good luck

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Hi Quackquack,

 

Thanks for your advice. I didnt realise that I had put personal reference numbers on my post, please can you explain what I should not have posted.

 

I am currently compiling the email to them now to lodge my complaint. I will also be reporting them to the OFT.

 

Fingers crossed!

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Sorry RPatz, I think Quack Quack was meaning an earlier poster, one above you even

 

Hun it might be best to start your own new thread on your problem cause I think it's getting missed with it being about a different company and you could be losing out if we have other people on the boards who have dealt with this particular lender.

 

My heart goes out to you, you may have to 'chalk this up to experience' if it's the end of the matter as they (I'd be inclinded to get that in writing from that Claire or put a letter to them stating your conversation I can just see them trying to deny a tel conversation) I've never known these awful companies doing refunds but have you tried contacting your bank at all?

 

I ask also because if it is a basic bank account it shouldn't let you go 'overdrawn' (certainly an argument worth having with the bank) and you might find payment bounces back so be careful

 

If there is anything your stuck with just stick a post up

 

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“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence.”

 

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I keep getting emails from Marshall Hoare regarding a toothfairy loan that i took out. They say i now owe 698. The loan was originally 100, and i could not afford to pay it back due to being advised that my ex had declared himslef bankrupt and i had ended up with all of our debt instead of just half of it. I have sent numerous emails back to them offering to repay the original loan at £20 oper month, but have had no response from them at all, i have also tried to send emails to the collections dept at toothfairy finance, but they are also ignoring my request. I sent a letter of complaint to the financial ombudsman, but they just sent me a letter back with a form to fill in and said to send a letter to Marshall Hoare to try and arrange repayment of the loan. Why should i send something in the post when i have sent emails almost immediately after they have sent me an email, threatening me with Bailiffs, when they won't even respond to my request on email. How can i stop them....

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Ignore Marshall Hoares. Unless they own the debt theyre just blowing hot air. There is no way at all you owe 698 on a loan of 100. If you contested that in court, they would probably remove it fast, or a judge would wipe it.

 

As for the FOS, they wont do anything until you have exhausted the creditors complaints system. Then they can get involved.

 

You also say they threaten you with bailiffs. DOnt worry, this will never happen. Report them to the OFT with as much info as possible. They are currently collating info in order to investigate this group of companies. I wont say why, as it could be libellous and get CAG into trouble.

Any advice i give is my own and is based solely on personal experience. If in any doubt about a situation , please contact a certified legal representative or debt counsellor..

 

 

If my advice helps you, click the star icon at the bottom of my post and feel free to say thanks

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