Shakespeare62 - v - a NastyBank

[Yeats]

I'll look forward to it Shakey.

 

yeats

[Mydogsawestie]

Hi Shakespeare62 I am doing my N161 Appeal & have found your thread VERY VERY relevant...and it has helped me prepare for my appeal too. I cannot wait to read your write up and glad you have had a smile on your face today.

 

Should you be able to assist on my thread at any time....your advice would be very welcome......http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/legal-issues/185814-d-judge-made-wrong-20.html#post2760321

 

 

Many thanks.....

[shakespeare62]

Attached are the following docs :-

 

1.Brief Chronology of 'Pishcon tactics

2. WRITE UP on yesterdays hearing.

Chronology of pishcon tactics Dec - Feb.doc

In the District Registry of my local High Court.doc

[shakespeare62]

Hi Shakespeare62 I am doing my N161 Appeal & have found your thread VERY VERY relevant

 

Hey Mydogsawestie - glad it's helped ! I'll look in on your thread tomorrow.

(I'm offline shortly)

[shakespeare62]

BTW Folks - all comments welcomed.

[foolishgirl]

Excellently argued shakespeare - you certainly had your wits about you.

 

So who's taking bets on that agreement suddenly going missing??

[volvodriver]

The agreement wont go missing - it would be the end of the barristers career.

 

More likely Amex will try to settle out of court.

[shakespeare62]

BTW - The Forensic Document Examiner will be an expert of Scotland Yard Calibre.

[foolishgirl]

 

More likely Amex will try to settle out of court.

 

They've got a problem volvo - this is an application for appeal. How are they going to get over the lower court's judgment unless they admt that their whole case was based on deception?

[Mydogsawestie]

Hey Mydogsawestie - glad it's helped ! I'll look in on your thread tomorrow.

(I'm offline shortly)

 

great I look forward to it, what an insight you have endured & well documented too for us LIP caggers to have knowledge of.

 

You have shown amazing courage, well done....

[banker_rhymes_with]

Hello Folks!

 

It would've been useful if the Court had sealed that Agreement with a Court Stamp on both sides, plus the Judge's signature, to make sure it remains the same one that is inspected and re-appears next time.

 

Amex are getting desperate.

 

Good.

 

Cheers,

BRW

[volvodriver]

They've got a problem volvo - this is an application for appeal. How are they going to get over the lower court's judgment unless they admt that their whole case was based on deception?

 

They have multiple problems, Shakespeareon the other hand has everything hanging on that agreement.

 

Like him, I'm sure it has issues.

[humbleman]

Hello Folks!

 

It would've been useful if the Court had sealed that Agreement with a Court Stamp on both sides, plus the Judge's signature, to make sure it remains the same one that is inspected and re-appears next time.

 

Amex are getting desperate.

 

Good.

 

Cheers,

BRW

 

Preferably just underneath the bit where it says

 

This is a consumer Credit Agreement, by signing it you agree to the t & C's.........

[dad]

Shakespear,

 

I like your style!

 

How are they going to get over the lower court's judgment unless they admt that their whole case was based on deception?

This is not an insurmountable problem. Providng both parties agree and they can convince the appeal judge the lower courts judgment can be set aside as part of a consent order. But it needs to appear in the main order and not in the schedule.

 

HTH

 

Dad

[InformedSearcher]

Not bad for an upstanding Financial Services Company who many other in the financial sector look up to is it?

 

It would seem that their approach is to scare people into believing they will not lose and the other party bear the costs. However Barrister's and solicitors don't come cheap and neither does court time. I think Shakespere62 needs a big pat on the back - I'd probably have lost my temper in frustration at the tactics.

 

Michael

[humbleman]

At the SJ they had destroyed this, and now when you have verified that this is not genuine, then what. There would have to be some charges brought against them if they have tried to cook things up.

 

Shakespeare, I would strongly advise if possible you get a barrister, because they will try and give the judge some c & b and get away with it. Don't know if you can summon the guy who found the agreement and question him/her.

[humbleman]

I think Shakespere62 needs a big pat on the back -

 

Michael

 

Totally agreed, done very well

[summerbreeze]

I salute you Shakey .

[shakespeare62]

Hello Folks!

 

It would've been useful if the Court had sealed that Agreement with a Court Stamp on both sides, plus the Judge's signature, to make sure it remains the same one that is inspected and re-appears next time.

 

Amex are getting desperate.

 

Good.

 

Cheers,

BRW

 

Depends if they feel lucky or not . Guess you could say it's a judgment call - get it wrong and you'll hear about it on the evening news. Forensic Document examination techniques are very sophisticated these days.

Edited February 10, 2010 by shakespeare62

[shakespeare62]

Shakespeareon the other hand has everything hanging on that agreement.

 

Not quite ..there's the small matter of their defective default notice.

Edited February 10, 2010 by shakespeare62

[the_shadow]

Not quite ..there's the small problem of their defective default notice.

 

Are you aware that Amex have now changed their default notices, you'll find some examples on recent cases in the Amex section.

 

They've made it even more confusing mind by telling people its 14 days from the date of service to rectify.

 

S.

 

edit: Oh and how rude.... very very well done Shakespeare

[humbleman]

Depends if they feel lucky or not - Forensic Document examination techniques are very sophisticated.

 

Provided there is one to examine and it's not got lost in the post.

[volvodriver]

Not quite ..there's the small problem of their defective default notice.

 

But that pales into insignificance if that agreement is not kosher, and you are allowed to prove it.

 

I'm sure Amex/Mishcom are actively considering two ways forward:

 

Buy you off

 

Get the judge to disallow forensic examination.

 

We'll see, its going to be interesting.

[banker_rhymes_with]

I bet that Agreement ends up in a Shredder! It has to go missing now, not even Amex would be stupid enough to allow it to go off for detailed examination.

 

Ink formulation, paper stock, printing technology used...carbon dating if needed!

 

Cheers,

BRW

[shakespeare62]

Provided there is one to examine and it's not got lost in the post.

 

The Barrister has given an undertaking to maintain it, unchanged in its current condition.