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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
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My court hearing is today!! I haven't got a solicitor, or had any legal advice!

I need all the luck in the world:rolleyes:....I will post back later with the outcome!

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Happy Days!! The judge was not impressed with how VW have handled things, and suspended the rog order upon me making a 1st payment starting yesterday before 4pm. the claimants agent who attended the hearing didnt know where the car was or if it had been sold, the judge said "if the car has been sold then they have to sort something out with us"! the judge also said that the bailiffs acted very badly and its a serious offence and if we wanted to we could make a separate claim for the way we were treated by them!!

 

I phoned the DCA yesterday, to try and make that payment but they wouldn't accept it!! they told me i have to wait for a call from their manager (who wasn't due into the office until 4.30pm) to discuss the matter with him and that he would be able to take a payment from me! I phoned the DCA 6times yesterday only to be told their manager was in a meeting and he would call me before 8pm to which he did NOT!!

 

I was obviously getting suspicious about this, i have just found out from a friend who phoned the auctions were my car was taken too that they have already sold the car back in January!!! At the court hearing on the 5th Jan the judge put a 28 day order on the car that it must not be SOLD!

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Thanks, I will ;)

 

I would also like to thank Repoman for all his help! we wouldn't have done this without him!!

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Its been 4days since the hearing and i still haven't got anywhere! The DCA keep ignoring me saying the manager i need to speak to is either in a meeting/on the phone or has stepped out of the office, they keep telling me he will ring me as soon as he is back!! I did briefly speak to him Monday evening and he admitted they had sold the car, he didnt know the exact date the car was sold and that he will be speaking to VW on Tuesday to get that info and will get straight back to me!

 

I phoned the auction's on Tuesday and found out the car was sold on the 16th Jan, so the DCA are in breech of the judges order from the 5th Jan which stated the car was not to be sold within the next 28 days!

 

I have tried to contact the DCA again tonight and surprise surprise the manager is not in the office yet again....13 phone calls later and i have only spoken with the manager once.

 

I am about to seek further legal advice and will keep you posted!

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I suggest you send a letter to them pointing out that they have gone against the Court order and the manager will not speak to you and that you will issue a summons against them

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Well not quite!! I have FINALLY received a call from the DCA with a proposal, either have the remaining balance of £2000 (which is just the interest i owed) outstanding wiped clean, i walk away with no debt & no car (which would mean i have paid £8600 for nothing) Or they replace my car with a £5800 car (the same amount for what they sold my car for) and carry on with the payments as normal Hmmm I think i will look very hard and find a solicitor!!

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Well not quite!! I have FINALLY received a call from the DCA with a proposal, either have the remaining balance of £2000 (which is just the interest i owed) outstanding wiped clean, i walk away with no debt & no car (which would mean i have paid £8600 for nothing) Or they replace my car with a £5800 car (the same amount for what they sold my car for) and carry on with the payments as normal Hmmm I think i will look very hard and find a solicitor!!

 

Very clear cut, they need to pay you £8600 at the very least, and call it quits.

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Well not quite!! I have FINALLY received a call from the DCA with a proposal, either have the remaining balance of £2000 (which is just the interest i owed) outstanding wiped clean, i walk away with no debt & no car (which would mean i have paid £8600 for nothing) Or they replace my car with a £5800 car (the same amount for what they sold my car for) and carry on with the payments as normal Hmmm I think i will look very hard and find a solicitor!!

 

 

My personal view here would be to go for the second option, but demand damages for the 2 and a bit months that they have had the car off you. For bus / taxi fees, extra time spent travelling, phone costs where they refused to return the vehicle, court costs for the hearings, etc. I'm sure that would come to near enough £2000...

 

Obviously wait for someone with more know than me to give other suggestions though :p

 

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Hi Su

 

Sorry been so quiet - it's gone a bit busy work wise.

 

My initial reaction is that the lender will bend over backwards now to accomodate you. They have blatently gone against a court order, which is I believe contempt of court.

 

Have VW Finance put anything in writing to you? I think this matter needs to be sorted in a court - mainly because you have a good case I think and also because VW have acted completely improperly which will somewhat go against them.

 

Have PM'd you.

 

Hope all is well otherwise.

 

RM

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I have been thinking of how long the whole process of going to court etc and dont fancy it at all, im really desperate for transport now!!

 

I might phone the DCA tomorrow and suggest if the car they are proposing to give me is to the exact same spec mileage/sports/year etc then i will go ahead with it!!

 

Can anybody give any advice??:confused:

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I tried to ring the DCA manager to accept their offer of them replacing my car (but under my terms of same spec car) and they are ignoring me yet again!! i have been waiting on his call for 2 days now :confused:

 

I really dont know were i am going with this:( if i am entitled to every penny back then i would be happy to settle with that!

 

I'm not sure on how demanding i can be with this, i dont want to get too cocky with the DCA :confused:

 

Any advice appreciated

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Give him till end of business tomorrow, and then I would get cocky, in the nicest possible way. At the very least you are entitled to what you are asking, and I'm sure they would not relish explaining to a Court that despite an order to the contrary they flogged the car! If no joy by 5.30 tomorrow drop a line on here - will give me some weekend reading to do!

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I have just called the DCA and again he's not available apparently he's on holiday until Mon and has been for the last 2 days :confused: hmmm.... ive been expecting his calls for the last 2days!!

 

I left a message with his colleague saying

"that i have an appointment with my solicitor on Monday, and stated the fact that my solicitor will probably suggest i take it back to court......and that before i speak with my solicitor i would like to suggest that if i was to receive £8600 back, i would be happy with settling out of court.

 

Is this okay :rolleyes:

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I have been calling the DCA all week now and the manager is never available or never returns my calls!!

 

I'm banging my head against a brick wall with this one i think, i am sooooo desperate for transport now! and have no idea what my next steps are :(

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I have been calling the DCA all week now and the manager is never available or never returns my calls!!

 

I'm banging my head against a brick wall with this one i think, i am sooooo desperate for transport now! and have no idea what my next steps are :(

 

Hi Su

 

I'd seriously try to get hold of his manager, and tell him that you will now escalate the problem back to the Court and let the Judge decide how best to play it unless it is dealt with today.

 

If you need a hand give me a shout.

 

Mark

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Su,

 

update your thread with your PM to me.

 

SECTION 90

 

Further restriction of remedies for default

90.—(1) At any time when—

(a) the debtor is in breach of a regulated hire-purchase or a regulated conditional

sale agreement relating to goods, and

(b) the debtor has paid to the creditor one-third or more of the total price of the

goods, and

© the property in the goods remains in the creditor,

the creditor is not entitled to recover possession of the goods from the debtor except

on an order of the court.

(2) Where under a hire-purchase or conditional sale agreement the creditor is required

to carry out any installation and the agreement specifies, as part of the total price, the

amount to be paid in respect of the installation (the " installation charge") the

reference in subsection (l!(b) to one third of the total price shall be construed as a

reference to the aggregate of the installation charge and one third of the remainder of

the total price.

53

(3) In a case where—

(a) subsection (l)(a) is satisfied, but not subsection (l)(b), and

(b) subsection (l)(b) was satisfied on a previous occasion in relation to an

earlier agreement, being a regulated hire-purchase or regulated conditional sale

agreement, between the same parties, and relating to any of the goods

comprised in the later agreement (whether or not other goods were also

included), subsection (1) shall apply to the later agreement with the omission

of paragraph (b).

(4) If the later agreement is a modifying agreement, subsection (3) shall apply

with the substitution, for the second reference to the later agreement, of a reference to

the modifying agreement.

(5) Subsection (1) shall not apply, or shall cease to apply, to an agreement if the debtor

has terminated, or terminates, the agreement.

(6) Where subsection (1) applies to an agreement at the death of the debtor, it

shall continue to apply (in relation to the possessor of the goods) until the grant of

probate or administration, or (in Scotland) confirmation (on which the personal

representative would fall to be treated as the debtor).

(7) Goods falling within this section are in this Act referred to as " protected goods".

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