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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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You could also phone the court and ask if theyve rec anything...when this happened to me the delay was caused by the DCA sending the cheque and a sniveling letter asking the judge to reconsider...the clerk at the court accidently (on purpose) let this slip...its worth a try.

 

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You could also phone the court and ask if theyve rec anything...when this happened to me the delay was caused by the DCA sending the cheque and a sniveling letter asking the judge to reconsider...the clerk at the court accidently (on purpose) let this slip...its worth a try.

 

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Good stuff monx- if the DCAs are starting to snivel, CAG is working.

 

If it aint hurting (them) it aint working.

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Well i did contact the court but the person i need to speak to wasnt there till tomorrow but i did contact CQ and this is what happened.

The account has been closed and sent back to the original creditor but how can they do this when they bought it 2 years ago which is what we asked them and they said they can send them back.Then we explained that we have an order of costs against CQ and we wanted to know where the payment is.At this they responded by WE DONT PAY CLIENTS :lol:.They the demanded to see it in writing we said you have when the court sent it to you.When i mentioned about the Warrant of execution (the lady was typing all the time) all of a suden she could see a payment and letter had been sent on the 9th also a letter to the court why i dont know.Seams funny nothing there then all of a sudden she found something.Anyway basicaly they were fobbing me off tbh ill give them tomorrow as if its special delivery then 2 days is to long and i will then go for the recovery action not taking crap anymore had enough

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LOL im not a client im a creditor they owe me money which im going to get.I am giving them 48 hours as they said they sent it the 9th i have the court sending out the details of the enforcement material and then if nothing arives well you know the next bit.What gets me is that we the debtors are all thick we havent got a clue in there minds after talking to this lot thats they way i felt comming off the phone and they maybe no script to deal with a call like that lol giving answers to me which didnt seam logical tbh.

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Well the post man has just been and still nothing from this lot looks like they were telling me porkies last night.So will contact my local court and see if they have had the so called letter from them before doing anything else may even phone CQ again.Also it dosent take 2 days for a special delivery as thats the way they would send it and they even told me to chase it up with the royal mail if it doesnt turn up lol thats not my problem.

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When Equitable Life went belly up, my mother bless her went and sat in the reception on the floor and wouldn't move until they paid....which they did..!!! Looks like it might have to be the bailiffs Stuscfc. Shame you can't employ 1st Credit to get the money back.....

 

Are you adding interest ? ;)

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Once you have a court order in your favour the debtor - CQ in this instance, doesn't that sound really, really good - have 14 days to pay you. They haven't complied with an order of the court and as soon as they defaulted interest kicks in. To be honest the rate is crap, 3% above a base rate of 2% but its based on a daily basis so the longer they don't pay the more its going to get.

 

If they've not paid you by tomorrow I would send the bailiffs in to recover the cash. I would also write to the OFT - they are the ones who licence CQ so they shuld be told of their (in)actions and their attitude towards their creditors.

 

Accept nothing less than the full amount.

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Thanks for that m8.I have been reading up on it and what i have seen is the amount which is nearly 200 pound x 8% then divided by 365 this gives the daily interest rate.When do you stop adding the interest rate is it when you start the claim as in say i start the claim on monday that would be 5 days added interest to the amount owed and then add the fee on top.This is what i think it is.Why dont they just pay up and it be over then for me and them but i will not take anything less than the full amount why because the harrasment of the last 2 years and they are a company far better off than me financialy.Also i have complained to TS already about this will have to sort out the OFT complaint but with xmas and othere things and doing this now havent had the time tbh.I worked out the daily interest to be about 8.72% but not sure that is right any ideas.

I hope this helps some others who might have to go through this in the future but hopefuly the OFT and others get the act together on this.

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Well as i have ben working night shift this week i got up at the normal time and gues what was comming through my post box as i was walking down the stairs the cheque from CQ. So panic over and a big thanks to everyone for there help with this.

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May well be my works do in town today.Some of my work mates have been out since 1pm lol so i may go and join them and raise a glass to everyone on here.What i noticed aswell reading the letter that came with the cheque was the letter and envelope were dated the 9th and the cheque was date the 4th seams a bit strange but got it now so happy days.

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Thought that while I was on, I would update this one.

 

I still don't have a valid CCA from Capquest - however, I keep getting letters from them advising me that as I ignored their SD, they would be sending the boys round to serve it personally.

 

I did ring them, and got a letter of apology, but they've sent two more threat-o-grams since then.

 

I'm not particularly bothered, but do like to make Capquest work for the money they are not getting from me - any ideas chaps?

All help is merely my opinion only - please seek legal advice if you need to as I am only qualified in SEN law.

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Hi

 

 

Capquest have gone a little quiet now so think it is about time you reported them to the OFT if you haven’t done so already.

 

 

Please bear in mind that the template letter on the first page of this thread:

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...=1#post3422496

 

may not be suitable for all and you will have to adapt it to your own circumstances I.E

You applied to get it set aside and CQ didn't turn up

You applied and CQ agreed to discontinue

You ignored and CQ did nothing

 

 

Today the OFT set out some new guidance and sending SD's as a debt collection tool is now frowned upon.

If you want to read it, here's the link

http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/consumer_leaflets/credit/OFT664Rev.pdf You can complain by email and the OFT will email you back a form to sign and post back to them for them to be able to add your complaint to their list.

 

 

http://www.oft.gov.uk/contactus;jses...1D83BF0004F6EA

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Hi

 

 

Capquest have gone a little quiet now so think it is about time you reported them to the OFT if you haven’t done so already.

 

 

Please bear in mind that the template letter on the first page of this thread:

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...=1#post3422496

 

may not be suitable for all and you will have to adapt it to your own circumstances I.E

You applied to get it set aside and CQ didn't turn up

You applied and CQ agreed to discontinue

You ignored and CQ did nothing

 

 

Today the OFT set out some new guidance and sending SD's as a debt collection tool is now frowned upon.

If you want to read it, here's the link

http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/consumer_leaflets/credit/OFT664Rev.pdf You can complain by email and the OFT will email you back a form to sign and post back to them for them to be able to add your complaint to their list.

 

 

http://www.oft.gov.uk/contactus;jses...1D83BF0004F6EA

If you are asked to deal with any matter via private message, PLEASE report it.

Everything I say is opinion only. If you are unsure on any comment made, you should see a qualified solicitor

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