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    • Banks have different limits above which they require Probate. So it may be Probate is not needed, although as he died with no Will that could complicate things. Is all the £28k with Virgin Money? Your wife should contact all banks who hold his money with the death certificate and ask them what they need to release the funds to her. Most banks have a central "bereavement department". Check their websites. Use that department rather than general call centre or bank branch. Your wife may also have to provide evidence that she is his daughter. When his wife died it sounds like they had a joint bank account so that's why her money just went across to him. But as it isn't a joint account now transfer to your wife won't be quite that simple.  
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    • She's an only child and he as a brother and sister. He has no will and we have done a check on this to find out if he had left one and nothing has come up. He has savings of around 28k His sister and brother are well off so 28k is nothing to them and aren't interested in his money. This just leaves my wife/his daughter. Would this still need to go to probate there is no estate e.g house or business to sell and the amount left in his bank is just small? When his wife died they just closed her bank account and moved her money across to his account and we just assumed that once my wife has handed in the death certificate and shown evidence of who she is the same would apply to her? We don't know yet the council have only just written to us today with a guide of what to do next.  
    • Did your FiL leave a Will and if so who is the Executor? Strictly speaking banks could refuse to take instructions until Probate is granted but In practice I would expect the bank to take instructions to cancel the DD if the Executor presents the death certificate and a certified copy of the Will
    • Hi   Sorry I probably wasn't clear enough. He had lived in the flat until December 2022 with Dementia by this time it was unsafe for him to have capacity to live on his own and he had to move into a nursing home. We had left it too late to apply for power of attorney so approached a solicitor in March last year for Deputyship. We were still in the process of dealing with it by May 2024. He passed away a few weeks ago and the solicitor was contacted to halt the application and we will just pay the fees of what work he has done up until now. My wife was the named person on her dads bank account but we didn't have the ability to alter any direct debits hence the reasons for applying for Deputyship as we were having problems trying to stop some payments coming out of his account Eon being another difficult company. We kept his flat on from December 2022 - August 2023. it was at this point I contacted Sancutary housing to inform them he was no longer living in the flat, it had been cleared out and was ready for a new tenant and that he had Dementia and had moved into a nursing home December 2022 and explained the reasons why we kept it on. As the named person to speak on his behalf I asked them what proof they needed in order to give notice on the flat e.g proof of dementia and proof that he was living in a nursing home and anything else they wanted. The lady in the upstairs flat and some of the other residence in the street had asked about him and we had told them he had moved into a nursing home. The lady in the upstairs flat wanted his flat for medical reasons so asked us once we had given notice could be let her know and she'll ask them if she can have it. We explained the difficulties and it was left at that but I did tell her I would let her know once notice was given. I contacted the company by email a number of times and also telephone conversations and nobody followed it up and it wasn't till the end of February this year that the housing manager for the area wrote to our home address to ask about him that he had been to the flat a couple of times and nobody answered and he had asked some of the residence in the street and they hadn't seen him for sometime. There was an email address on the letter so I contacted him and copied in the last 2 emails I sent Sanctuary regarding me wanting to give notice on the flat for at least 9 months explaining that it went ignored as well as telephone calls. I also stated I wanted to have his rent payments returned from the date I wanted to give notice which was from August 2023 as the bank wouldn't let us stop the DD without POT or deputyship explaining we were in the process of Deputyship. He gave some excuse about not having POT to cancel on his behalf and spoke to someone in HR and said he would contact the nursing home to confirm he was there with Dementia and if it all checks out we can give notice on the flat which came to an end on the 22 March 2024. There was not mention of back payments for the rent already paid or the fact I had asked to give notice in August 2023. Despite someone living in the flat from 1st April they continue to take DD payments for the flat and have taken another 2 payments of £501. another concerning thing despite Eon not allowing us to cancel the DD to his account the lady upstairs informed Eon that she was moving into the flat February 2024 and Eon refunding the account to his bank and said in an email sorry you are leaving us and canceled his account. Something they wouldn't let us do but a stranger. She also changed her bank account to his address despite the fact notice hadn't been given on the flat yet. So we need to find out how much information Sanctuary actually had for her to tell her power company she was moving into the flat in February despite the housing manager only just getting in contact to find out where he was. So a complaint is going into Eon and Sanctuary and we are going to take advice and ask the bank to charge back the rent. My wife hasn't taken the death certificate to the bank yet to inform them of his passing.  
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:???:hi could anybody PLEASE help and advise me, ive had cancer twice since 2005 and now have adult onset diabetes PLUS the big DEPRESSION and since i became ill ive acumillated some debts, the debts i have with all but one of the DCA'S is ok, but ive recieved a statutary demand and the C.A.B who were supposed to be helping me, failed me ,an let the s/d run its coarse, now i have a bankcruptcy petition dated for middle of next month, the DCA is aware of my illness but carried on with thier threat anyway, they have refused all offers from the C.A.B and the Royal British Legion and an offer from my self for which my sister offered to pay £30 a month, this is getting to the point that i feel (yet again)the closeness to committing suicide, im burnt out from trying anymore, i ive had no income for two and half years and have only just been awarded D.L.A part of which is at the lowest rate

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Sorry to read about your situation, someone will be along soon to offer advice, you will get plenty of help here.

 

Maybe start a new thread in the debt collection industry section. Don't panic we will help you get through this, certainly don't do anything drastic.

 

Sorry I can't offer more, I'm still pretty new to this myself.

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Hello

 

Welcome to CAG.

 

Have you claimed back any charges from any of your accounts?

 

This bankruptsy petition, how much are they after?

 

Now that you have found the site, we should be able to help you turn things around, you need to give us as much information as possible, without giving us your personal details.

 

You should send off letters to every company you have a debt with, even some closed accounts, and see what the charges are. To do this you need to send an S.A.R (Subject Access Request), and a postal order for £10, for your statements and any other information they hold on you. If you have 2 accounts with the same bank, card company, then it is still £10. This is all that they can charge. Also ask them for a copy of your original agreement, to see if it is legal.

 

To send an S.A.R. look here:

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/bank-templates-library/516-1-data-protection-act.html

 

Now i know you feel like giving up, i have been there many years ago. Stick with it, stay here on this site for more help. Give us some more to work with once you have your statements, and details about the bankruptsy petition. We could turn this around.

 

I will move your thread to the debt area for more help.

 

Be positive from now on .. .:)

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Please name the DCA and who the original creditor is and how much is for so the experinced ones will know which muppets we are dealing with8-)

All comments are well meant but i am not legally qualified only CAG educated:D

 

 

In the slight chance i have been helpful please click the scales:)

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Please try to be strong, there are people on here who are in very similar situations as yourself....we can help.

 

Can you give us a little more information on the debts ? can you tell us what your circumstances are ? (do you own your own house ? any assets ?)

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god, thank you to you all, i cant believe that anyone would respond, i developed cancer in 2004but left goin to the docs until jan 2005 and was promptly told i was ok (no tests or antibiotics) then pain got worse an went back in mid 2005 and told the same, so carried on working (self employed) till nov 2005 then pain was there constantly an next doc was shocked that id had no tests etc so i was rushed in urgently an promptly told i had cancer, from this point i had to stop work, also developed adult onset diabetes an this is the start of my debt probs. i found out in nov 2006 that i wasnt elegible for any financial help (my wife had to increase her work hours by now to try an just keep us afloat). our debt increased because we were using credit cards an overdrafts to make ends meet. most of our creditors were sympathetic an accepted the min token payements but the 3 debts that we had at h.s.b.c we now think have been sold on. we recieved a warning back in about march that we hadnt responded to a dca's letter from oct 2007, but i dont have any recollection of any letter so was suprised to recieve the letter, i contacted our local c.a.b and they have dragged there legs so much that they still to date havent pulled together our financial statement, the c.a.b did amazingly make a token offer of a £1 a monthy but that was promptly refused, we next recieved a statutory demand about a month ago, i told the c.a.b but they seemed not to concerned so it left me thinking 'oh maybe its not so bad' they never indicated how important it was or that i needed to respond to it. the Royal Brit Legion made an offer too but that was refused too, my sister then made an offer of £30 a month but that too was refused, when that offer was made it was explained that i was only shortly out of chemo after the cancer returned an my other illnesses incl sever depression. last monday 7/7/08 i recieved a bankruptcy petition for next month 19/8/08. i went ballistic, angry an very upset i phoned them today an after readin some of the info on here threw it in there face saying that i believe they are bein discriminating against me an the fact that they have refused all offers an i was now goin to report them to the o.f.t, he backed down an said that he wants to review my case so i have faxed over my financial statment an a letter askin for this to be investigated as a complaint, the company that i think may own my debt is 'phoenix recoveries s.a.r.l uk ltd' an its largo t/a legal an recievables thats issued all the paperwork. the other thing is that we have been making token payement for over a year an now im not sure if the payements are being transfered to who ever is dealin with the debt. all other 4 debts are ok but this double one. it for £3324.00 yes we own our house an thats all we have

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Might I ask you, is the DLA for your diabetes? If not, you are eligble to claim it. You would also get help towards your medication if elligible and, from what someone told me, possible help towards costs of dietary needs whilst diabetic. It's just an idea, but will bring you some more money in.

 

You are in the right place, here on CAG. If you feel okay with me asking, which type of diabetes is it? Only ask because of what you could be elligble for. Eg type 1 or 2 or is just what's known as 'pre diabetes' as I noted you said 'adult onset'. Also, is the DLA award for your depression? If so, you are also elligible for other benefits.

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Oh, just one further thing ... you will see a lot of on CAG ... save yourself a lot of aggro, don't speak to them on the phone. Unfortunately, if any DCA or creditor gets wind of your ill health ... they will use it against you. Yes, I know how horrid that sounds but it happens.

 

You will receive some excellent support via CAG. I can't really say anything else but you will get strong support here emotional, debt wise or otherwise.

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Do you own your home? How large are your debts in total? Are you still entirely on benefit?

i will be off site for the next month or so. if you have any problems, feel free to report the post so a moderator can help you.

 

I am not a qualified or practicing lawyer.

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One other avenue you may explore ... that would be a local advocacy centre. To see what other benefits you are - and just looking at your post I would say you would be entitled to more than what you are getting now eg DLA at lower rate but you'd need to get help from someone more expert -

entitled to. Also, if you feel up to or okay with this ... your local Jobcentre Plus will also have an advisor specialising in disabilities, long term illnesses ... I think from what you are posting you should be entitled to more for example. Always better to visit in person as sometimes the info giving on the phone can be often misleading particularly where DLA is concerned.

 

Just trying to think off the cuff of things in this direction for you, as I cannot help much in the financial stakes as I am also learning.

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Whilst thinking more ... are you getting any kind of support through your GP for your depression? More intereted in your wellbeing here. As with everyone. Actually, ignore what I said about the DCA knowing about your illness as it seems they do already from re-reading your opening post. Although, I'd be interested to learn how they got this info or got to know about it? Did they ask you or have they found this out some other way? Only reason I am asking is because as you will also read on CAG ... some of the methods used to obtain info ... are less than salubrious. If none of that is the case here please ignore.

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Anyway, will go away now, but you did give a lot of info, much to think about. So will stop with the questions. :D:D Others are better suited to assisting you with the debt trouble.

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Hm... I'm going offline soon, so i just want to make you aware of the truth of the matter. There are things you can do in response to a bankruptcy petition. there are ways you can really stuff it to the b***ers, frankly, and we will help you through this.

 

I also want you to know the reality of bankruptcy. the reality is that the OR will not take any of the goods essential to maintaining a reasonable living standard. The OR may not take state benefits like DLA, Income Support and etc. Where someone is on DLA and they have no equity in a property, the bankruptcy is normally expidited to last 6 months or sometimes even less, and it is likely you will have less than a 30 minute chat with an OR on only one occasion. Apart from that, your life is likely to go on as normal. Cars over £5k might be reposessed, but they aren't interested in old computers, clothes, and normal furniture.

 

the only significant thing is if you own your own home. If you DON'T own your home, i would advise you to let them make you bankrupt, as you will lose NOTHING as a result of the bankruptcy, and it will cost the b*****rs £1,500+ to issue the BR. And it will sort out allmost all your debts, because you won't owe them any more.

 

If you own your own home, then we will look at defences to the BR (there generally are some) or we will file a time order application, which gives the court the opportunity of changing the repayments. It won't cost you money to do this, as you are excempt from fees.

 

Really, i want to make it clear that cancer and diabetes are things to worry about, but most people I know who have gone BR have found that it is a relief.

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Don't forget to look into the charges on these accounts, you may have enough, with a little interest, to knock a large portion off this debt. Your'e in good hands with the others on this thread.

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Hi fedup. Just wanted to say you may be interested to look at the Consumer Health Forums for support with your health issues too. ;)Consumer Health Forums

The Consumer Action Group is a free help site.

Should you be offered help that requires payment please report it to site team.

Advice & opinions given by Caro are personal, are not endorsed by Consumer Action Group or Bank Action Group, and are offered informally, without prejudice & without liability. Your decisions and actions are your own, and should you be in any doubt, you are advised to seek the opinion of a qualified professional.

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Hi Fedup

 

Any updates on your thread here? Letr us know if we can be of further assistance.... :)

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hi all, just to update... ive sent a 3page letter of complaint to Largo t/a legal & recievables, but have managed to get a solicitor involved who is helping me with a medical negligence claim, only prob ive got is they have sent papers with copies of bankrupcy petition dated for hearing on 19/8/08 which as left me in dire because ive barely any time to build a case aginst them, have tried to report them to the OFT under section 40 of the administration of justice act stating that because they have refused to deal with the CAB and the R.BRIT.LEGION and also refusing to accept any payement plan of me they have broken the law, the section says it is a criminal offence for any debt collectors to refuse to deal with any appointed agents of the debtor, also i tried to inform the OFT that under the credit consumer act 1974 that they have broke the law because they have discriminated against me by refusing to accept any of my offers, yet i could insist their records are brought up in a court to prove they have set up payement plans with other debtors. the OFT have refused to look at the case saying there is NO case, so i also argued this with trading standards and said i have a copy of the basics of this law but they were the same and refused saying there was no case, which is absolute BUL**H*T. i think they dont like it that the lay person can find so of this info out and also i think they are scared of upsetting the apple cart, but im am getting more angry now that im going to the papers and watchdog and im going to fight them ALL. to be honest ive been very very ill and through no fault of my own the debts have accumilated because of contracting cancer and not being able to work. if i can prove any of other the quoted laws i will KICK THE AS* of these **** debt collection agencies and bring into dispute the credibilities of the OFT and trading standards, i am sick of these organisation slamming doors in my face time an time again, because they cant be bother to investigate a complaint that may make shockwaves.:mad::mad::mad: p.s i believe its time EVERYBODY came together and stood up to the trash out there

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