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Fault seems to clear after engine was switched off. 07/02/2024 In the Morning, I take it to local garage who say as the light gone off – the warranty company is unlikely to cover the cost of the repair or diagnostics and recommend I contact them when the light comes back on. In the evening the light comes back on and luckily I manage to get it back to the garage just before it shuts for the day. 08/02/2024 The Garage sends me a diagnostics video showing a lot error codes been picked up by their diagnostics machine including codes for Oxygen sensor and Nox Sensors, Accelerator pedal and several more. Video also shows EGR Hose not connected to the intake manifold properly, they believed this was confusing the onboard system as it is unlikely this many sensors would trigger at same the time but they couldn’t be certain until they repaired the hose. 13/02/2024 Finally get the car back as it took a while to get approval and payment for the repairs from the Warranty company. Garage told me to keep an eye the car as errors had cleared with the hose but couldn’t 100% certain that’s what caused the problem. 06/03/2024 Engine management light comes on again. Fed up I go into Trade Centre as I was just around the corner when it happened and asked them how to reject the car or have the problem fixed. They insist that as it’s over 28 days I need to get the car fixed under the warranty package I purchased and they could no longer fix the car as it was over 28 days. When I tried telling them it appeared to be the same or related problem they said they couldn’t help as I hadn’t contacted them earlier. I asked them if they were willing to connect the car to the diagnostics machine and tell me what the problem was, as a goodwill gesture, which he agreed to do and took the car to the back He came back around 30 minutes later and said they took a look at the sensor they replaced previously and there was nothing wrong with it and engine management light went off when they removed the sensor to check it. When I asked what the error code he couldn’t give me an exact fault but the said it one of the problems I told him earlier (Accelerator pedal). I have this visit audio recorded on my phone – I informed the reps I was recording several times. As the light wasn’t on, local garage couldn’t book me for a repair under warranty. 07/03/2024 Light came on so managed to book back into local garage for the 12/03/2024 Whilst waiting to take car into garage, I borrowed a OBD sensor and scanned for errors on the car. This showed the following errors: P11BE – Manufacturer specific code (Google showed this to be NOX sensor) P0133 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S1: Response too Slow 12/03/2024 Took car to local garage and the confirmed the above errors. This leads me to believe that either Trade Centre UK reps lied and just reset the light or just didn’t check properly (Obviously I am unable to prove this) 22/03/2024 Finally got the car back as according to garage, the warranty company took a long to time to pay for the repairs 28/04/2024 Engine management Light has come back on. Using the borrowed OBD scanner I am getting the following codes: P0133 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S1: Response too Slow P2138 - Accelerator Position Sensors (G79) / (G185): Implausible Correlation I have not yet booked into a garage as I wanted to see what my rights are in terms of rejecting the car as to me the faults seem related. I can’t keep using taxi or train to get to work every time the car goes into the garage as it is getting very expensive. Am I right in thinking that they have used up their chance to repair when they conducted the repair end of January or when they refused to repair it in February ? If I am still able to reject the vehicle could you point to any sample letters or emails I can use. Thankyou for your advice on my next steps.
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Help, I am having so many problems with BOS Preference account, I could just ( and have been) cry.

 

The account is about 11 years old, clueless how I got it, but suspect it was through a long since paid car finance.

 

Paid perfectly since then, until recently when I have asked for reduced payments and suspended interest int the short term, have been writing since Jan, sending financial statements etc ( all sent recorded ) and have had no written reply to any, they seem to just ignore the content and keep churning out demand for payment.

 

Anyway, I have contacted them about 6 times this week by phone, requested a manager callback on tues, now sat night and no call, regarding suspension of interest, but also re the S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) I sent on 19th feb, which surprise surprise I have had no reply to.

 

They are still charging £190.00 mth interest, PLUS £25.00 late payment fee, which I have been disputing, but they will not have it........they cant tell me what sort of account it is..................I am getting conflicting information and being passed from pillar to post. I am making regular payments (although not meeting the minimum £440 a month)

 

Please help me! WHAT DO I DO NEXT!!!!!!

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Hiya YM I know how you feel I am sure someone on here will help.

You should put things in writing as it's easy to forget what is said over the phone also conversations can be ignored and start a file so you can keep all you paper work in order if you haven't already done so.

Sorry I couldn't be more help.

Take care.

NS

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Firstly, don't panic!

 

This is effectively a credit card account which also had a cheque book. You were probably given it when you took out another loan with BOS. I was and it was a regret.

 

Read through this link in the meantime and we will help you once you have digested whats involved.

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collection-industry/112921-bos-preference-account.html?highlight=preference

 

We will need to concentrate on getting full details of the account history, which will include trasactions, interest rates, late and letter payment charges etc. You see they will have added those charges and then piled hefty interest on top. So it will also involve disputing the account. We can help you. There is also a lot of assistance of this nature within the debt forum.

 

As said, everything needs to be in writing and you need to keep copies of all correspondence. You will get help with that from the templates and we can assist.

 

Will catch you later, regards, Kenny

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Good old Kenny and Tilly I was trying to find the templates :oops:

I'm still learning myself lol.

You need to include £1 in the cca request.

If and when you receive anything they have 12+2 days to respond,post it on here taking out any personal details and the fab peeps here can take a looksie at it for you and let you know if all is well.:)

Send this recorded post as well.

NS

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And don't phone them! If they phone you, insist that everything is in writing.

 

The chances are they no longer have any sort of agreement for this account, especially as the loan it came with was paid off long ago, and even if they do, it's probably not enforceable. The upshot of that is any charges etc may well be irrelevant, because without an enforceable agreement you don't need to pay them another penny.

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Hi,

 

I am bit confused, even though the card/account whatever it is, has been used?

 

They really are the worst people to deal with. :eek: Should I keep paying each mth, they don't reply to my letters. What I am looking for if and when the cca arrives?

 

Sorry, I must seem hopeless!!

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Basically YM If/when you receive a document,scan and post a copy on here for the peeps on here to take a looksie.

 

Basically if what they have is an enforceable agreement you will get advice on you next course of action if they send nothing you give them 12+2 days to respond or they send you a document which is not a valid agreement then you will be advised that the whilst the debt exists they cannot take any action to recover the monies.

Keep paying for now until you receive something back.

 

I hope this sheds some light if you have a look at some other threads on here about cca requests this will give you a good indication as to what to expect.

 

NS x

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You are not alone, they really are vile to deal with, and they don't reply to anyone's letters. If you have the time, have a read of this thread:- http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collection-industry/102011-blair-oliver-scott-bank.html

Send your request for a copy of the agreement as advised. Don't sign, just print your name on the letter, and send it recorded signed for. Keep the receipt.

If they haven't sent you a copy of your agreement 12 working days after the letter is received you are legally entitled to stop payment, but it's up to you whether you do or not.

It doesn't matter if you used the card, legally they can only ask for payment if all of their paperwork is in order. Have a look at this thread for the basics:- http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/legal-issues/108467-basic-introduction-consumer-credit.html

And stop worrying. You've found the perfect place to sort all this out. At the very worst, you'll get plenty of help to make sure they stick to the rules and you only pay what you can afford.

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Thank you all so much for your help.

 

I would not have even considered all this if I had not had the most horrible conversation with the most rude and arrogant person, who made me feel so ashamed of the struggle I am having paying this account at the moment, how dare they judge!!.....................so here I am determined to get some of the charges back! Bring it on BOS ! :lol:

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That's how most of us end up on this site, so as far as I am concerned, they've just brought it on themselves. If they'd kept to the rules and been reasonable, I would have just kept on paying forever, but as it is they've not had a penny off me for nearly a year, and boy does that feel good.

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That's how most of us end up on this site, so as far as I am concerned, they've just brought it on themselves. If they'd kept to the rules and been reasonable, I would have just kept on paying forever, but as it is they've not had a penny off me for nearly a year, and boy does that feel good.

 

Yep thats exactly the same for me to I guess your name says it all great name btw ehhh :D

Good to hear that fighting spirit YM keep up the good work.:)

:(:confused:Confused, sad,bewildered,befuddled,bemused,disorientated,lonley until I came here, moving forward to :smile::lol: ,trying not to let them drag me down.:cool:
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yummy, any more news on this? I've got my own battle going with one of these accounts so I'd be interested to hear.

 

Regards.

 

Fred

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Well, after many more emails, phone calls, and letters, none of which recieve a reply I am no further on. Basically, since April I have been requesting a copy of the original credit agreement, which has not been supplied, (paid 1.00 etc). I sent a letter in June, stating that I no longer acknowledge any debt etc, and to stop sending statements, adding interest etc. They are still coming, and I am still getting charged interest. I can't believe the account has not been passed over to Blair, Oliver & Scott, because I have not paid a penny since April. I think they just like adding the interest, which would stop if B,O&S got the account. I really don't know what to do next (if anything)! Muppets!!!!:-x:-x:-x:-x

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Do nothing. Keep everything they send as evidence. If they ever chase after you again, you will be perfectly entitled, assuming they come up with an enforceable agreement, to refuse to pay any interest/charges added whilst they were in default of your request.

 

When/if they do anything more than send you statements, then is the time to start complaining to anyone who will listen. In the meantime, why give them any encouragement to look harder for your agreement?

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