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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
    • Thanks for all the suggestions so far I will amend original WS and send again for review.  While looking at my post at very beginning when I submitted photos of signs around the car park I noticed that it says 5 hours maximum stay while the signage sent by solicitor shows 4 hours maximum stay but mine is related to electric bay abuse not sure if this can be of any use in WS.
    • Not sure what to make of that or what it means for me, I was just about to head to my kip and it's a bit too late for legalise. When is the "expenditure occured"?  When they start spending money to write to me?  Or is this a bad thing (as "harsh" would imply)? When all is said and done, I do not have two beans to rub together, we rent our home and EVERYTHING of value has been purchased by and is in my wife's name and we are not financially linked in any way.  So at least if I can't escape my fate I can at least know that they will get sweet FA from me anyway   edit:  ah.. Sophia Harrison: Time bar decision tough on claimants WWW.SCOTTISHLEGAL.COM Time bar is a very complex area of law in Scotland relating to the period in which a claim for breach of duty can be pursued. The Scottish government...   This explains it like I am 5.  So, a good thing then because creditors clearly know they have suffered a loss the minute I stop paying them, this is why it is "harsh" (for them, not me)? Am I understanding this correctly?  
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Actually, the disclosure condition concerns any recipient 'upstream' of the intended one. If YOU were the recipient as defined in the TO field, then what you do with it subsequently is your concern, they were not saying that the contents were confidential, that would require a Private & Confidential statement specifically addressed to you!

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Actually, the disclosure condition concerns any recipient 'upstream' of the intended one. If YOU were the recipient as defined in the TO field, then what you do with it subsequently is your concern, they were not saying that the contents were confidential, that would require a Private & Confidential statement specifically addressed to you!

 

Thanks for that, Buzby. I sort of thought that was the case...

 

But...

 

I would not want to place the CAG into any dispute, so I think it best I wait for either permission to reproduce, or a suitable statement from channel 5.

 

Will keep you posted.

 

 

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Lefty: Do you mind if I circulate a copy of your fact sheet to the staff here at work? (I work for one of the debt help charities)

 

Absolutely. You are more than welcome.

 

 

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Just another quick update...

I thought a little whisper in the ear of Damon Gibbons, chair of Debt on our Doorstep could be a good idea... Turned out to be a very good idea... ;)

Dear Lefty

Many thanks for sending this through. We would be delighted to take this issue up and will draft something up next week for the media. I’ll come back to you with the draft.

Best wishes

Damon

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well tv is full of trash atm.

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Thanks, MikeSplicer. Appreciated.

 

Just another quick update...

 

Damon Gibbons (Debt on our Doorstep) left a very polite question regarding the Brighthouse sponsorship on the Trisha Goodard website forum here. This was quickly followed up by a two of genuine "viewer" comments, both telling damning stories about their dealings with Brighthouse!

 

This morning, all forum posts have been deleted! Looks like someone is beginning to take notice! ;)

 

I still haven't yet received permission to reproduced channel five's response email (although I requested this three days ago). I have advised that I shall wait another 24 hours for their approval, after which time I shall reproduce it regardless - in view of Buzby's advice earlier.

 

I have had no response from Trisha.

 

I have had no response from Brighthouse.

 

 

 

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Does anybody have a email address or address where we can write to these bunch of idiots.

 

Brighthouses head office might be a good one and the producers of the trisha programme.

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Town House TV

Trisha Show Executive Producer Malcom Allsop/Trisha Goddard

 

[email protected]

 

[email protected]

 

 

Channel 5 Cheif Executive

 

[email protected]

 

 

Channel 5 customer services

 

[email protected]

 

 

Brighthouse

 

[email protected]

 

 

 

 

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Ty lefty.

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I am generally a very patient man, but I think 3 days for an official response is taking the p...

Dear XXXXXXX

Customer Services

Channel 5

IMPORTANT

I replied to this email on 16/11/07 - I am still awaiting a reply.

For your ease of reference, here is what I wrote:

Hello XXXXXX

Thank you for your response.

As you may have noticed, I am writing to channel 5 in my capacity as a contributor to the Consumer Action Group website and forums. Brighthouse is a company which features regularly, as you can imagine.

Therefore, I would like your permission to reproduce (by nature of a forum post) your response (in full) to my enquiry.

If this is not possible, I would appreciate a statement for publication from channel 5 in regard to this.

As the disclosure condition at the foot of this email concerns any recipient 'upstream' of the intended one, and as I am the intended recipient as defined in the TO field, then I would like to advise you that I shall be publishing this response on the Consumer Action Group website as a statement from channel 5 regarding Brighthouse sponsoring the Trisha show. As there is no "Private & Confidential" statement specifically addressed to me regarding this email, I am completely entitled to do this.

However, as a courtesy, I am still prepared to wait a further 24 hours if you would prefer to make an "official statement" or make any additions or amendments to your original response.

If I receive no reply to this email (with 24 hours) I will publish the contents of this email as a statement from channel 5.

Kind Regards

Lefty

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Lefty,

 

They say paitence is a virtue.

 

But as patience can be pushed to far i would advise you do what you feel is correct.

 

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Looks like the Trisha show is finally beginning to take notice...

 

 

The Trisha Goddard Show

 

 

 

 

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Town house productions, Trisha's producers, have today left a statement on the Trisha TV forum stating that the decision to accept sponsorship from Brighthouse was made by Five, and that there is no financial gain for Trisha or the production company from the deal.

 

However, this begs the question as to why - in Five's original press release announcing the sponsorship, Tricia was so gushing about Brighthouse. Given that she has no financial gain from the deal we have asked that she now retract her original statement... perhaps she should also do a programme on the subject?

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Nice one Maybe if enough ppl complaint then something will be done

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Same ere bigmac.

 

Maybe we should invite them all to actually read some of the threads on this site just so they can see what brighthouse are really like.

 

Maybe they should fully investigate before that choose who should sponser them.

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I emailed Town House TV and five earlier this evening and got an e-mail from Malcolm Alsop (Town House TV MD) pretty well straight back:

Thanks for your comments about the sponsorship of our show on Five. Town House TV is the maker of The Trisha Goddard show but has nothing to do with the sponsorship issue. This is entirely a matter for the broadcaster Five. We derive no financial gain from this sponsorship whatsoever, nor do we have any direct control over it.

We pass on all such complaints to Five but you are also free to contact them direct at home | five.tv

Our web site contains a range of helpful information about a wide range of issues and we are shortly to expand this to include organisations offering advice on debt problems.

which is basically what it says on their website. Lets keep the pressure on, particularly with five.

 

 

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yep pressure is needed.

 

Lefty and i had a convo earlier buy Pm.

 

What i am thinking is maybe CAg could orgainse a small protest buy going to the studio where the show is filmed and start asking awkard questions, this is maidstone in kent.

 

There is aslo offices in Norwich on a very busy business park which i think you may find is were the production company that films and produces Trisha is based. Which is owned buy trisha and her husband. If you check out her site, link posted earlier bu lefty, you will see that it is not going to be a area where it can be ignored.

 

Maybe further conseltation is needed before we do anything daft tho.

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this is the norwich site.

 

As you will see it is for a production company.

 

Town House TV Productions Ltd

7 The Norwich Business Park, Whiting Road,

Norwich, NR4 6DN, United Kingdom

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yep it will be good headline news.

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