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    • Hello, Just to check I understand things right, he moved to a nursing home, you then kept paying the rent for a period of time whilst you sorted his belongings. You have asked to give notice and asked for backdated payments of rent from when you first asked which went ignored? They are still taking rent payments.   Have I understood correct?   If I've got anything wrong please correct me.
    • I contacted Sanctury housing in August 2023 after informing them my father in law who had Dementia had moved into a Nursing home December 2022. We kept the flat for 8 months until such a time we could accomodate some of his furniture that my wife wanted to keep. I contacted them in August 2023 to let them know the situation by email as I was the named person that could speak on his behalf. I informed them that we had left it to late for POT and were seeing a solicitor for Deputyship of his financies. I asked them what information would they need in order to give notice on the flat and we could provide details of his condition and nursing home. This went ignored I left it a month and then called them October 2023. I was promised a call back from a manager over the next few days. This never happened and it was end of November when I contacted them again and they had no record of me calling them. I explained the email and again I was told the local manager to the area would call me. This never happened and I ended up emailing them in January 2024 with a copy of the email from August. Again this went ignored and I had explained to them that we couldn't just go to the bank and stop the DD as we had tried. This email again went ignored. I then had a letter written to our home address in February asking us to get in contact with them (local manager) as they were concerend nobody was living in the flat. He had an email address so I copied in the last 2 emails to say I had been trying to give notice since August 2023. I also stated that I would like the rent that was paid from August 2023 refunded back to his account as I had officially tried to give notice then and it went ignored. He replied to us about wanting to look at the flat then notice could be given once he had contacted the nursing home to confirm he was actually living there now. Notice was giving for the 22 March 2024 and this would be when rent would stop and no further payment would be taken by this point. The fact I asked to be back dated went ignored. I have since noticed on 2 banks statement for April and May that they are still taking Rent payments of £501 from his bank. Further to this which seems very strange. He was with Eon Next for his utility bill again we were having problems getting this stopped as they needed a named person on his account which there wasn't one despite me managing his online account for him. I didn't check the email address that often that I used to set it up and went to check as noticed the credit he had built up with not living there was all getting refunded in February. The email said £600 would be refunded to his account with a (sorry you are leaving us message) but how can he leave as nobody but himself had access to speak with them. I also noticed the lady in the flat above him had a letter from her bank sent to his address with his address details but his name which was dated 4th March well before we had given notice and it said (thank you for giving us your new address details) we have set all this up for your account.   So Sanctuary housing must have been aware he wasn't living there from the ignored emails for the lady above to start changing address details to move into his flat before the housing manager had even got in contact to ask if anyone was living there. What I basically want to know his do we have any legal standing to claim the rent back from when I first contacted them in August 2023? There is roughly £3000 to come back  
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If you show some ID or a utility bill confirming that the bailiff's debtor does not live there anymore then he will leave you alone. I had this dozens of times when I lived in temporary accommodation in Wiltshire. The house was previously occupied by druggies before being bought by the current landlord.

You can show documents to the bailiff through the letterbox or show them at window to the bailiff outside. There's no obligation to open the door.

If you are threatened or he says he'll return with a locksmith then quietly call police on 999 and report a burglary in progress. Don’t open the door to the police until they have walked the bailiff well away from your premises.

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I am a little confused! Why would you want the bailiff to turn up instead of informing the court that the previous occupant has moved? You might not even be in when he/she calls.... so then you will just get the previous occupants info through the door and not see the bailiff's face. I personally would not want a bailiff snooping around!

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development in this tale:- northumberland county court are involved and baliff is coming, but the trouble is this guy doesn't live here, I do! Seems they have wasted £75.00 on a guy who doesn't exist, I cant wait to see this baliffs face when he turns up, lol

 

So you are waiting for this bailiff to turn up just to see his face. The bailiff works for the court, thus TAX PAYERS are paying his wages. I would just pick the phone and inform them that the person does not live at the address and send them proof of who does.

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So you are waiting for this bailiff to turn up just to see his face. The bailiff works for the court, thus TAX PAYERS are paying his wages. I would just pick the phone and inform them that the person does not live at the address and send them proof of who does.

 

That will have no effect, bailiffs always turns up at the target address, even if the debtor has told the bailiff - JBW in this case last year - in writing (stamped & all) that he is now living in Marrakech. JBW still turned up at debtors former home in the UK & cussed the current occupier banging on windows early one morning.

 

I am the owner of the property and I didn't even waste my breath on them.

 

If the bailiff wants to waste his own time turning up - then let him.

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So you are waiting for this bailiff to turn up just to see his face. The bailiff works for the court, thus TAX PAYERS are paying his wages. I would just pick the phone and inform them that the person does not live at the address and send them proof of who does.

 

Bailiffs are usually self-employed; if they are collecting government debts then they are not paid any upfront fee (as with Child Support Agency and TFL). Successfully recovered debts subsidise the nulla-bona debts - which is why the fees are so high.

 

TFL has a very low success rate in recovering unpaid c-charge because non-paying drivers are the ones who dont register their car or drive a shared pool car.

 

Private Bailiffs and court bailiffs collecting private debts or CCJ's take an up-front fee from the claimant and this is non-refundable if the debt is uncollectible so there’s no tax payer contribution.

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Bailiffs are usually self-employed; if they are collecting government debts then they are not paid any upfront fee (as with Child Support Agency and TFL). Successfully recovered debts subsidise the nulla-bona debts - which is why the fees are so high.

 

TFL has a very low success rate in recovering unpaid c-charge because non-paying drivers are the ones who dont register their car or drive a shared pool car.

 

Private Bailiffs and court bailiffs collecting private debts or CCJ's take an up-front fee from the claimant and this is non-refundable if the debt is uncollectible so there’s no tax payer contribution.

 

I am very aware about bailiffs and all about their fees and everything else. It was just the way the previous message was stated that a bailiff was coming from Northumbria Court. As you are aware some bailiffs are court baliiffs and are only paid around £12-15k if you work direct for the court.

 

I have to say that bailiffs are not paid any fees if they are collecting for their local councils as well.

 

Your response about TfL confuses me. Do you know that TfL are actually out on the road collecting fines for themselves. So the reason for Tfl having a low rate is that they drive a pool car? If they drive a pool car for a company i would just go to the address and tell the company that their individual has to pay the charge. You would be surprised how many times the Daily Mirror has paid up.

 

I would also say that a lot of drivers do not register their car at the addres they reside at. That is why there may be a low collection rate.

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That will have no effect, bailiffs always turns up at the target address, even if the debtor has told the bailiff - JBW in this case last year - in writing (stamped & all) that he is now living in Marrakech. JBW still turned up at debtors former home in the UK & cussed the current occupier banging on windows early one morning.

 

I am the owner of the property and I didn't even waste my breath on them.

 

If the bailiff wants to waste his own time turning up - then let him.

 

The bailiff company has an obligation under contract with Councils to visit every address on warrant the council provide to them. If the bailiff has visited the address before and have got proof that the person has moved away then they should not visit the address again but unfortunately bailiffs are moved around different areas, thus meaning that another warrant could be issued, given to a different bailiff, he does not check what may have previously happened and he will turn up and not know that a previous accout was sent back to the council nulla bonna.

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Your response about TfL confuses me. Do you know that TfL are actually out on the road collecting fines for themselves. So the reason for Tfl having a low rate is that they drive a pool car? If they drive a pool car for a company i would just go to the address and tell the company that their individual has to pay the charge. You would be surprised how many times the Daily Mirror has paid up.

 

I didn't mean that kind of pool car. I was referring to the type used by the criminal fraternity in dealing & fetching contraband. It’s usually an older car - a jalopy or a crash-repair which can be ditched quickly if stopped.

 

They are always registered to an unobtainable address or sometimes name-swapped like they do with minicabs. (where 2 cab drivers exchange vehicle registration addresses to safegaurd against accidental road fines and unannounced bailiff attacks)

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The bailiff company has an obligation under contract with Councils to visit every address on warrant the council provide to them. If the bailiff has visited the address before and have got proof that the person has moved away then they should not visit the address again but unfortunately bailiffs are moved around different areas, thus meaning that another warrant could be issued, given to a different bailiff, he does not check what may have previously happened and he will turn up and not know that a previous accout was sent back to the council nulla bonna.

 

Then rowbo1071again has no choice but watch the bailiff turn up and waste tax payers money.

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Said baliff turned up today and went away with tail between his legs as I'm not Mr. Kevin Harris and never will be! He was very apologetic after my GSD nearly broke the door down to get to him, lol very loudly! I did phone his office like suggested but they insisted on sending someone out as they didn't believe me! Ahhhh well another day over.

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