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    • new thread created for this claimform please post here now for anything to do with it now . pop up on the bulk court website detailed on the claimform. [if it is not working return after the w/end or the next day if week time] . When you select ‘Register’, you will be taken to a screen titled ‘Sign in using Government Gateway’. Choose ‘Create sign in details’ to register for the first time. You will be asked to provide your name, email address, set a password and a memorable recovery word. You will be emailed your Government Gateway 12-digit User ID. You should make a note of your memorable word, or password as these are not included in the email.  then log in to the bulk court Website .  select respond to a claim and select the start AOS box. .  then using the details required from the claimform . defend all leave jurisdiction unticked  you DO NOT file a defence at this time [BUT you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 ] click thru to the end confirm and exit the website .. get a CCA Request running to the claimant . https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/332502-cca-request-consumer-credit-act-1974-updated-january-2015/ .. Leave the £1 PO unsigned and uncrossed . get a CPR  31:14  request running to the solicitors [if one is not listed send to the claimant] ... https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/332546-legal-cpr-3114-request-request-for-information-when-a-claim-has-been-issued/ . .use our other CPR letter if the claim is for an OD or Telecom Debt or Util debt]  https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/332546-legal-cpr-3114-request-request-for-information-when-a-claim-has-been-issued/ on BOTH type your name ONLY Do Not sign anything .do not ever use or give an email . you DO NOT await the return of ANY paperwork  you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 from the date on the claimform [1 in the count] ..............  
    • Which Court have you received the claim from ? Northampton  Name of the Claimant ? lowell Solicitors : Overdales solicitors  How many defendant's  joint or self ? Self Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to.  13 may 2024 What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim? 1. the claim is for the sum of £6163.61due by the defendant under an agreement regulated by the consumer credit act 1974 for hsbc uk bank plc. Account (16 digits) 2. The defendant failed to maintain contractual payments required by the agreement and a default notice was served under s 87(1)  of the consumer credit act 1974 which as not been compiled with. 3. The debt was legally assigned to the Claimant on 23/08/23, notice on which as been given to the defendant.  4. The claim includes statutory interest under S.69 of the county courts act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of issue of these proceedings in the sum of £117.53 the Claimant claims the sum of £6281.14. Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ?   Not to my knowledge. Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online but it was for a smaller amount they kept on increasing this with me asking Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. It was assigned to a debt collection agency  Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? yes  Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Yes I also made offers to pay original creditor a smaller amount but was not replied to Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? No Why did you cease payments? I was made redundant and got a less paid job I also spent some time on furlough during covid and spent some 3 months on ssp off work. What was the date of your last payment? May 2021 Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes at the time I communicated with all my creditor's that I was running out of funds to pay the original agreements once my redundancy money ran out that was when my accounts defaulted. I then wrote to all my creditor's with pro rata offers of payments but debt collectors took over the accounts.
    • Just an update for all. I received about a letter every other week, increasing in threat levels. Then I hadn't had one for a about two weeks, then Saturday received a carbon copy of the very first letter they sent me in February. Made me laugh, rinse and repeat. 
    • So, your response was not received by the SCP as you did not send it with a valid stamp. Therefore, from my two option in post #14, the first option is the only one available to you, but you do not have the option of asking to be sentenced at the fixed penalty level as the reason the SCP did not receive your response was down to you. Here's a reminder of what to do: Respond to the SJPN by pleading “Not Guilty” to both charges. In the “Reasons for pleading Not Guilty” box state that you are willing to plead guilty to the speeding charge providing, and only providing, the “Fail to Provide Driver's Details" (FtP) charge is dropped. This is a tried and tested method to deal with your problem and is almost always successful. Before the pandemic it was necessary to attend court to do this "deal" because it needs the agreement of the police prosecutor.. During the pandemic courts made every effort to have as few  people as possible attend and they began doing this deal under the "Single Justice" procedure without the defendant's attendance. Some courts have carried this procedure on whilst others have reverted to a personal attendance being necessary. If you are required to attend, your case will be taken out of the SJ procedure and you will be given a date for a hearing in the normal Magistrates' Court. If that is the way they do it in the area involved you will have to attend, see the prosecutor and offer your "deal" in person. 
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have you got an address?

 

also do i need to send the 10 pounds fee?

 

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Yorkshire Bank Plc £3553.77 Prelim letter sent 14/9/06 LBA sent 22/9/06, MCOL Sent 10/10/06 MCOL Notice of Issue Rcvd 12/10/06, MCOL Acknowledged 17/10/06, £929.00 Offer Rcvd, 03/11/06 - Rejected, 09/11/06 YB Defended, 10/11/06 Transferred to Local Court, AQ Returned;) 30/11/06 Copy of Banks AQ Received, 1 month extra asked for by Clydesdale, 09/01/07 £2140.00 Offer Rcvd, 09/01/07 - Rejected, 11/11/07 Allocation To Small Claims Track, Court Date Set - 05/03/07, 15/01/07 £2590.00 Offer Rcvd, 15/11/07 - Rejected, 07/02/07 £3773.77 Offer Rcvd (FULL), 12/02/07 - Accepted, 21/02/07 - Chq Received for FULL AMOUNT. :)

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Hi,

 

The Address is Ge Money Home Lending, Malvern House, Croxley Business Park, Watford, WD18 8YF.

 

Yes, you will need to send the £10 po or cheque with your Data Protection Act Subject Act Request to them. That's all you need to do. However, they may require more information from you to confirm your identity which they will ask for in their reply to you. Just fill out the form they will send you and send it back.

 

Remember though that the 40 days time limit on their response to your request starts when they receive your initial request so send it RECORDED DELIVERY. and wait for a responce.

 

 

Hope this helps

 

 

Cheers

 

 

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I am at a relatively advanced stage with GE Money (previously I Group). They took around 37 days (out of a possible 40) to reply to the data protection request. They then sent back all court documents back to the court with a compliments slip "sorry can't find account". I proceeded (winning by default) and then sent a baliff to collect. They have now applied to the court to have the judgements "set aside" on the basis that they had not received neither the claim, the judement or the warrent from the court! If they did not receive it how then can they attatch their official compliments slips to the court documents and return them? Hopefully the court will see their claim of not having received any of their documents (sent to the correct address) is unfounded. They have appointed a solicitor to act on their behalf.

Any thoughts on where this will go from here? I am prepared to pursue this through court and enlist proffesional representation if needed. I no longer lend from GE and hope that I never do again.

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when sending documents it is best to use recorded delivery because of the 'pretending not to have received them' problem, as for the court, I suppose they just use the normal post but I have taken all my documents to the court and had a receipt or date stamped copy taken.

'rise like lions after slumber, in unvanquishable number, shake your chains to the earth like dew, which in sleep had fall'n on you, ye are many, they are few.' Percy Byshse Shelly 1819

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Hi,

 

This is in my opinion where the court system falls down.

 

Proof of posting is not proof of receiving. The court papers say: "date sent dd/mm/yy deemed served on the dd/mm/yy. A defendant can ignore the court claim actually received. Lie later on that they received nothing, refer to CPR 6.5 and apply for a set aside. THIS IS WRONG.(my Opinion) But, until the courts' procedure for issuing claimants' claims is brought into the 21st century what can we do?

 

 

Just a rant!!

 

Good luck to all who claim against I-Group GE money

 

 

Paul

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Hi,

 

This is in my opinion where the court system falls down.

 

Proof of posting is not proof of receiving. The court papers say: "date sent dd/mm/yy deemed served on the dd/mm/yy. A defendant can ignore the court claim actually received. Lie later on that they received nothing, refer to CPR 6.5 and apply for a set aside. THIS IS WRONG.(my Opinion) But, until the courts' procedure for issuing claimants' claims is brought into the 21st century what can we do?

 

 

Just a rant!!

 

Good luck to all who claim against I-Group GE money

 

 

 

 

Paul

thanks, proof of receiving docs is a problem, how about signed for postings, do they say they are missing also.

'rise like lions after slumber, in unvanquishable number, shake your chains to the earth like dew, which in sleep had fall'n on you, ye are many, they are few.' Percy Byshse Shelly 1819

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thanks, proof of receiving docs is a problem, how about signed for postings, do they say they are missing also.

 

I sent my SAR by Special Delivery; even though they signed for it they did not admit to receiving my letter and fee as "it had gone missing internally". The compliance department refused to send my statements as they did not have my request.........

 

They are unbelievable.................

Nationwide

May 23 Data Protection Act request sent

May 25 Data Protection Act request acknowledgement received

June 13 Statements Received

June 13 Prelim letter sent

June 26 LBA sent

July 12 Claim issued via Money Claim Online

July 21 £4798.29 paid into account

 

Endeavour Personal Finance

Sep 12 Prelim letter sent

Sep 18 LBA sent

 

GE Money

Sep 20 SAR

 

SPPL

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I asked for a full account statement not a subject access request, this might be the difference in figures etc given. It runs to several pages and shows the returned dd's and charges clearly, also the interest charges when applied. What if you apply directly to GE Money, they have an automated request on their phone no but they will put a charge on your account for a full statement.

 

just rec'd my refusal to repay letter from GE, they state all their charges are lawful and fair, I have a thread elsewhere so not hijacking (sorry):)

'rise like lions after slumber, in unvanquishable number, shake your chains to the earth like dew, which in sleep had fall'n on you, ye are many, they are few.' Percy Byshse Shelly 1819

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Just another update and some advice (hopefully)

 

Are GE Money for real!!

 

I have recieved a letter from GE Money today - and get this - they have sent me the N1 form that I handed to the Court along with what they are supposed to send to the Court if they are defending or admitting the claim! Their letter reads:

 

Loan secured on XXX (this should be the old address as we are claiming the ERC from that property, but they have our current address)

 

Further to your recent communication

 

Please find your documents enclosed

 

If you are unsure as to any of the contents of this letter, please do not hesitate to contact us.

 

Yours Sincerely

 

GE Money

 

What do I do now? If they do not acknowledge the claim, do I win by default? Should I go to my Court and advise them that they have sent me these documents? or send the it back to GE Money (I really do not want to do this, as this is their incompetence)

 

I do not want to jeopardise my claim.

 

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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I think you win by default after 14 days if is them ignoring the claim, so maybe this falls into that category because it is equivalent to them doing so as they have not taken the appropriate action if eg they wanted to defend.

 

maybe a mod or a legal mind will be more helpful, best wishes.

'rise like lions after slumber, in unvanquishable number, shake your chains to the earth like dew, which in sleep had fall'n on you, ye are many, they are few.' Percy Byshse Shelly 1819

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any news D5Tweddle? I had an offer and have accepted but not as final. does anyone know how interest is charges on the charges by GE, I dont understand their system.

'rise like lions after slumber, in unvanquishable number, shake your chains to the earth like dew, which in sleep had fall'n on you, ye are many, they are few.' Percy Byshse Shelly 1819

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Hello,

 

Nothing at all from Eversheds or GE Money. I have started another thread by mistake ( Me v GE Money [formally I group]) why I have done this, god only knows, but most of the information is on this thread.

 

They have defended the claim, and counterclaimed for costs. I have now filled in the AQ and I am £100 lighter. In the AQ I also included my defence to the claim and the counterclaim, this was just before Christmas.

 

So far I have heard not a peek.

 

The total cost is now around the £1600 mark. Looking forward to the money!

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hope it goes okay, when you win you will get your court costs back. when GE replied to me initially they sent a long list of all their 'manual' intervention so I reckon this is the way they are intending to go as a defence for all those years and years of penalty charges.

'rise like lions after slumber, in unvanquishable number, shake your chains to the earth like dew, which in sleep had fall'n on you, ye are many, they are few.' Percy Byshse Shelly 1819

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In the same boat as the rest of you, ge money robbing me blind, chargeing me to recive advice on how to get in more debt from one of ther companys that can help me pay of my arrears. robbing f**kers.

Will add them to my list to start claiming my chareges back.

Can not wait till i can go back to a normal high street lender.

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any news D5Tweddle? I had an offer and have accepted but not as final. does anyone know how interest is charges on the charges by GE, I dont understand their system.

 

GE credited their offer to my mortgage account so the charges remain on the charges account? this means my mortgage is in credit but surely this also means that interest is clocking up on the charges?

'rise like lions after slumber, in unvanquishable number, shake your chains to the earth like dew, which in sleep had fall'n on you, ye are many, they are few.' Percy Byshse Shelly 1819

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That was nice of them to do that! defeats the object of getting the money in your hands (I appreciate that we still have to pay them though!)

 

Did they advise you that they were crediting the money to your account?

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they did not advise me, when I rang to query what was happening since my LBA they just told me they had done this, it kinda caught me off guard and I needed to think about what it meant, re interest etc. obviously they had no intentions of just posting a cheque, rather cancelling the charges so that I dont have to pay them in the long run but the way they have done this surely means they can hang on to all the interest that will be added??

'rise like lions after slumber, in unvanquishable number, shake your chains to the earth like dew, which in sleep had fall'n on you, ye are many, they are few.' Percy Byshse Shelly 1819

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