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    • What type of finance is it?   HP, PCP, Loan? They want her to ring so they can bully her into making payments she can't afford...unless she can record her calls then IMHO, I'd keep everything in writing. Is £400 SSP her only income? There's no chance they will justify taking half of that.   Lodge a formal complaint with them ASAP, exhaust it, and then you can escalate it sooner rather than later, ruddy sharks!  
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    • Appreciate input Andy, updated: IN THE ******** County Court Claim No. [***] BETWEEN: LC Asset 2 S.A.R.L CLAIMANT AND [***] DEFENDANT ************ _________________________ ________ WITNESS STATEMENT OF [***] _________________________ ________ I, [***], being the Defendant in this case will state as follows;     I make this Witness Statement in support of my defence in this claim.   1. I understand that the claimant is an Assignee, a buyer of defunct or bad debts, which are bought on mass portfolios at a much-reduced cost to the amount claimed and which the original creditors have already written off as a capital loss and claimed against taxable income as confirmed in the claimant’s witness statement exhibit by way of the Deed of Assignment. As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights. This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information). The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 2. The Claim relates to an alleged Credit Card agreement between the Defendant and Bank of Scotland plc. Save insofar of any admittance it is accepted that the Defendant has had contractual agreements with Bank of Scotland plc in the past, the Defendant is unaware as to what alleged debt the Claimant refers. The Defendant has not entered any contract with the Claimant. 3. The Defendant requested a copy of the CCA on the 24/12/2022 along with the standard fee of £1.00 postal order, to which the defendant received a reply from the Claimant dated 06/02/2023. To this date, the Claimant has failed to disclose a valid agreement and proof as per their claim that this is enforceable, that Default Notice and Notice of Assignment were sent to and received by the Defendant, on which their claim relies. The Claimant is put to strict proof to verify and confirm that the exhibit *** is a true copy of the agreement and are the true Terms and Conditions as issued at the time of inception of the online application and execution of the agreement. 4. Point 3 is noted. The Claimant pleads that a default notice has been served upon the defendant as evidenced by Exhibit [***]. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 5. Point 6 is noted and disputed. The Defendant cannot recall ever having received the notice of assignment as evidenced in the exhibit marked ***. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 6. Point 11 is noted and disputed. See 3. 7. Point 12 is noted, the Defendant doesn’t recall receiving contact where documentation is provided as per the Claimants obligations under CCA. In addition, the Claimant pleads letters were sent on dates given, yet those are not the letters evidenced in their exhibits *** 8. Point 13 is noted and denied. Claimant is put to strict proof to prove allegations. 9. The Claimant did not provide a true copy of the CCA in response to the Defendants request of 21/12/2022. The Claimant further claims that the documents are sufficient to pursue a Judgement and are therefore copies of original documents in their possession. Conclusion 10. Without the Claimant providing a valid true copy of the executed Credit agreement that complies with the CCA, the Claimant has no grounds on which to enforce this alleged debt. 11. The Claimant has been unjustly enriched at the expense of the Defendant by purchasing bulk debt at a greatly reduced cost and subrogating for the original creditor in trying to recuperate the full amount of the original debt 12. The Defendant was not given ample evidence to prove the debt and therefore was not required to enter settlement negotiations. Should the debt be proved in the future, the Defendant is willing to enter such negotiations with the Claimant. On receipt of this claim I could not recall the precise details of the agreement or any debt and sought clarity from the claimant by way of a Section 78 request. The Claimant failed to comply. I can only assume as this was due to the Claimant not having any enforceable documentation and issuing a claim in hope of an undefended default judgment.   Statement of Truth I, ********, the Defendant, believe the facts stated within this Witness Statement to be true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in it’s truth. Signed: _________________________ _______ Dated: _____________________
    • Morning,  I am hoping someone can help, I am posting on behalf of my friend so I will try and provide as much info as possible.  Due health reasons, she is currently not working and unable to pay her contractual car finance payments. She emailed 247 Money and asked for a 3 month payment holiday, they refused this straight away with no reasons as to why. They have told her that instead she can make a payment of £200. She is currently getting £400+ a month ssp so this is not acceptable. She went back to them and explained she cannot make this payment and they have not offered an alternative plan. Its £200 or she falls into default.  She is now panicking as she does not want her car to be taken away. What options does she have?  Thank you, 
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Hello,

 

A week ago I bought a nearly new Vauxhall Zafira. The next day it went back in as it had a rattle coming from the front. This was solved as it had a loose heat shield...No problem I thought! Also on the same day the car stalled, I was driving along doing 60mph and dropped down a gear. The whole car just switched off!No power steering etc. I stopped the car and started it up again, thought nothing of it but at the end of the road it did it again. I booked the car back in and the engineer took it for a test drive with me in the passanger seat. He could not get the fault to re-occur and it was put down to a one off.

Today however I came out of the supermarket and the car started but immediatly stopped again. I could not get it to start for around 10 mins. The car would not turn over and the dashboard lights (Engine warning, oil temp etc) did not light as is usual when starting the car. Also at this point the headlights switched themselves on!!!

Anyway I kept trying and eventually phoned the AA but about 2 mins after coming off the phone I managed to get the car started!

 

I took it back to the garage and it is now waiting on an engineer looking at it tomorrow. My questions are, as it is a NetworkQ car and has a 30 day exchange policy I would like to take advantage of this. However if the garage cannot reproduce the fault is it not my word against theirs? The manager I spoke to said we needed to give them the chance to fix the problem. How many tries do they get? This is the second time it has been in for the same fault inside 2 weeks!

 

Lastly what happens if they say they have fixed it but after a month the same happens, what rights do I have to an exchange then?

 

My wife and me are quite upset by all this as it was a lot of money (To us) that we spent on a new car only to find we may have bought a dud! We also go on holiday next week to France by Car!!! I dont want to break down abroad!!!! But also the garage manager said he was not sure if it came to it, whether he could get a replacment in time!

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I am surprised that this is attempting to be diagnosed via a test drive - has nobody thought to interrogate the engine management system for fault codes? The system holds a history

 

Or at least, reset it and and see what occurs between reset and the next failure.

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They have tried reading the codes but this is where the problem lies. The system has no error codes stored in it! Today they called to say I coule pick the car up as they cannot find a fault! What do I do? They refused a refund/exchange as they say they can find no fault!

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blinky the 30 days exchange no quibble offers are nonsense.

 

There should be displayed alongside them the statement "this offer does not effect your statutory rights"

 

The reason is that you are, should you need it, better protected in law particularly in the 1st 6 months.

 

You don't have to prove fault they have to prove it isn't faulty & as it's now a matter of the engine management record, they are stuffed.

 

However, as they could 'wipe' it I would advise that you go to another dealer & have the system interrogated by someone who doesn't have an Axe to grind

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The problem is that the enginer managment system is not storing any error codes. Therfor the used car dept are saying there is no fault. They also know i am taking the car to France next week so the 30days exchange will be worthless after that as I will have done over 1000miles. Consumer advice said it basically is my problem as I cannot prove the car has a fault!

The repair section of the garage are however a bit more helpfull and this afternoon they ordered a new Ignition plate? So we might be getting somewhere. I would still have liked to be able to have taken advantage of the replacment offer and had a similar replacment car but it looks like this is a non starter!

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They have tried reading the codes but this is where the problem lies. The system has no error codes stored in it! Today they called to say I coule pick the car up as they cannot find a fault! What do I do? They refused a refund/exchange as they say they can find no fault!

 

As I have already stated before I read you latest post you don't have to 'prove' there's a fault they have to prove there isn't. & just checking the management system isn't good enough.

 

As I previously suggested they might 'wipe' the system but if you go to another expert they will be able to tell if the 'wipe' has taken place whilst in their custody

 

Also as I doubt this fault is isolated to your car I should search the web to see if other owners have suffered simular problems

 

You could start here: Vauxhall Zafira - Engine Management light - Used Car Forums

 

& here:

http://forums.preloved.co.uk/fuseaction-forums.showdiscussion/thread_id-30706/1ba840c4.html

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'Consumer advice' are, not for the 1st time very wrong.

 

I despair. Where do they get these advisor's?

 

In the 1st 6 months you DON't have to prove a fault & if you take it to France & it breaks down it'll cost you a fortune.

 

Your also taking one hell of a risk with the lives of the occupants should it suddenly fail on the motorway

 

Better to hire a car for the trip & claim the hire charges from the dealer as part of your action as I doubt any court would in the circumstances say you acted unreasonably

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Who are you dealing with in the garage where you bought the car? With this kind of problem I'd write to the group MD explaining the nature of the problem and, since they have had the opportunity to fix the car, pointing out that, should you decide to take the car abroad, you will hold them responsible for all repair and towing charges while on holiday as well as damages. Tell them that you consider that the fault is potentially dangerous and that their potential liability is far greater than the profit they have made on selling the car. Give them a couple of reasonable choices either to replace the car or to provide a temporary replacement while they take your car in for further investigation.

 

The fact that no fault codes are showing doesn't tell you everything. Some faults simply won't show in the log. Yes, you have statutory rights but this doesn't really help much to get a working car for your holiday. The garage WILL have a car they will lend you if they feel it is justifiable. Just point out that you're reasonable and that their potential liability is huge and they'll suddenly find a car for you. If you have a video camera or a phone with a video, take it around with you all the time and film the car as soon as it misbehaves.

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Sorry carbonlife but I suggest your mistaken to advise the OP to use the car to go to France, even with the threat that if it breaks-down the garage can be expected to pay.

 

Whilst this may be the case it certainly would ruin the trip & cost a bomb to get back to the UK & the court might say you where foolish to take it abroad knowing it was faulty & refuse full compensation. It's called mitigating any loss.

 

In addition as I have already commented the OP owes a 'duty of care' to the passengers & if it fails on the motorway there could be an accident.

 

Best to hire one for the trip & pass the cost on to the garage

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Sure, maybe I wasn't too clear but I wasn't actually suggesting that blinky takes the car abroad - just that he points out the potential liability to the garage should he choose to do so. Perhaps, as you say, it is better to tell the garage that he intends to hire a replacement car and will seek to recover the costs from the garage. You can be sure that a NetworkQ garage does have a replacement car for you under these circumstances - it is simply a question of showing them that it is in their interests to provide it to you.

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