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    • just to be clear here..... the DVLA do not send letters if a drivers licence address differs from any car's V5C that shows the same driver as it's registered keeper.
    • sorry she is a private individual, the cars are parking on her land. she can clamp the cars. only firms were outlawed from doing it bazza. thats what the victims of people dumping cars on their drives near airports did and they didn't not get prosecuted.    
    • The DVLA keeps two records of you. One as a driver and one for your car. If they differ you might find out in around a month when they will send you a reminder as well as to your other half for their car. If you receive nothing then you can be fairly sure that you were tailgating though wouldn't explain why they didn't pick up your car on one of drive past their cameras. However even if you do get a PCN later then your situation will not change. The current PCN does not comply with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4 which is the main law that covers private parking. It doesn't comply for two reasons. 1. Section 9 [2][a] states  (2)The notice must— (a)specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates; The PCN states 47 minutes which are the arrival and departure times not the time you were actually parked. if you subtract the time you took to drive from the entrance. look for a parking place  park in it perhaps having to manoeuvre a couple of times to fit within the lines and unload the children reloading the children getting seat belts on  driving to the exit stopping for cars pedestrians on the way you may well find that the actual time you were parked was quite likely to be around ten minutes over the required time.  Motorists are allowed a MINIMUM of ten minutes Grace period [something that the rogues in the parking industry conveniently forget-the word minimum] . So it could be that you did not overstay. 2] Sectio9 [2][f]  (ii)the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver, the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Your PCN does not include the words in brackets and in 2a the Act included the word "must". Another fail. What those failures mean is that MET cannot transfer the liability to pay the charge from the driver to the keeper. Only the driver is now liable which is why we recommend our members not to appeal. It is so easy to reveal who was driving by saying "when I parked the car" than "when the driver parked the car".  As long as they don't know who was driving they have little chance of winning in court. This is partly because Courts do not accept that the driver and the keeper are the same person. And because anyone with a valid motor insurance policy is able to drive your cars. It is a shame that you are too far away to get photos of the car park signage. It is often poor and quite often the parking rogues lose in Court on their poor signage alone. I hope hat you can now relax and not panic about the PCN. You will receive many letters from Met, their unregulated debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors threatening you with ever higher amounts of money. The poor dears have never read the Act which states quite clearly that the maximum sum that can be charged is the amount on the signs. The Act has only been in force for 12 years so it may take a  few more years for the penny to drop.  You can safely ignore everything they send you unless or until they send you a Letter of Claim. Just come back to us if they do send one of those love letters to you and we will advise on a snotty letter to send them. In the meantime go on and enjoy your life. Continue reading other threads and if you do get any worrying letters let us know. 
    • Hopefully the ANPR cameras didn't pick up the two vehicles, but I don't think you're out of the woods just yet. MET's "work" consists of sending out hundreds of these invoices every week so yours might be a few days behind your partner's. There is also the matter of Royal Mail.  I once sold two second-hand books to someone on eBay.  Weirdly the cost of sending them separately was less than the cost of sending them in one parcel.  So to save a few bob I sent them seperately.  One turned up the next day.  One arrived after four days.  They were  sent from the same post office at the same time! But let's hope I'm being too pessimistic. Please update us of any developments.
    • New version after LFI's superb analysis of the contract. Sorry, but you need to redo the numbering of the paras and of the exhibits in the right order after all the damage I've caused! Defendant's WS - version 4.pdf
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OMG............6 weeks?

 

how many dodgy beds can they shift in this time ??

 

 

:eek:

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still go through with it and then they will have to pay that charge as well which will teach them a further lesson. Not your fault if the cheque turns up before the bailiffs go in. For what it is worth, ikea have 11 CCJ's against them and have only satisfied two of them since september 2003. So don't be holding your breath for the cheque !

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Thats very interesting, I was just putting it down to incompetence, but based on that info it seems a little more sinister. How can a company the size of Ikea act in such a way?

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ha ha .......we were led to believe bad design/workmanship.

 

But its not a good advert either way for keeping relations alive......though some people swear by the sofa.......

 

 

You can access the cc judgements in a number of ways but mostly they are business/accounting associated sites.

 

If its a plc then they cant hide anything at all.

 

I recently did a company search and found details (by mistake) of pop idols Simon Cowell.................also the other week got some insider info of the finances of Virgins companies.............all 40 of them !!!

 

To avoid being libellous I wont add what I have found in these and other searches.......what I would say tho is that its quite an eye opener.

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martin hit the nail on the head. I have access to programmes which assist me day to day so hence the reason I can find this stuff out.

 

By the way, 11 CCJ's against a company like ikea means nothing, they are very cash rich and their assetts are obviously worth a bit so they would always borrow against those.

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martin hit the nail on the head. I have access to programmes which assist me day to day so hence the reason I can find this stuff out.

 

By the way, 11 CCJ's against a company like ikea means nothing, they are very cash rich and their assetts are obviously worth a bit so they would always borrow against those.

 

Very very true & even Harrods to my knowledge have had unsatisfied CCJ's in the past. but I still think it would be a good idea to start a register where these could be displayed thereby giving them a taste of what it's like to be refused business/custom. Many of these companies receive goods from suppliers who, because of the name, don't bother to check their credit worthiness only to find out later that they are in some recent cases on the brink of collapse. Also many customers have lost large deposits

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I didn't say there were my friend! but I know they did in the past including one that was for no more than £400.

 

My whole point is that these same companies charge us more % on credit & take a high moral tone when we default yet here we are and what they do they do with impunity because no one bothers to check on THEM. Why mainly because the information is not available to the common punter when I think it should be. That way we might be a little more circumspect about who WE deal with. Also if the register included verifiable examples of their behaviour they might think twice before acting the way we know they do every day

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no ccj's for harrods in the past 6 years my friend !

 

 

could it be that he has decided to pay everything now?

 

His applications for a British passport have always been refused.

He complains about his misstreatment here but forgets to mention he actively encouraged his sons relation with our future queen.

In some ways what happened after that, saved him from not only keeping his business here but many other things too.

One thing is for sure..........we wont see him on here claiming penalty charges

 

He is far to busy with other things.........capitalising on days that could have been but were cut short.......for obvious reasons

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Well finally they have paid up :-)

 

 

Well done............thought it was never going to end.

 

Maybe now I bet you wished you had gone to MFI ? They are known to have gone for a better image these days.......and no doubt at all would have given a refund straight away.

 

My wifes relations live on the outskirts of Moscow and IKEA started building a warehouse there 3 years ago..........each time I have been there I ask why its taking so long to finish apparantly its because the contractors keep changing after not getting paid so the job keeps stopping.

I reckon here the same building would be up in 6 months.

 

Ikea cant even pay the money to build its own bloody store !!

 

:rolleyes:

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Nice to know this...........but the info has come a little too late.

 

 

:rolleyes:

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Maybe you could but not to worry.

 

Take it you wont be using your staff discount for an Ikea bed tho..........:eek:

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Sorry, wish I had seen all this sooner and could maybe of offered some help

 

 

Not to worry, we got our money back and purchased a bed from elsewhere but they have lost me as a customer for life.

 

I'm currently awaiting a reply from the manager regarding the whole debacle.

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