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    • Few tweaks as the run order was completely messed up and the main point of your defence (reconstituted agreement) pushed to the bottom of the statement.   I, XXXXXX, being the Defendant in this case will state as follows; I make this Witness Statement in support of my defence in this claim and further to my set aside application dated 1 November 2022. 1.The claimants witness statement confirms that it mostly relies on hearsay evidence as confirmed by the drafts in person in the opening paragraph. It is my understanding they must serve notice to any hearsay evidence pursuant to CPR 33.2(1)(B) (notice of intention to rely on hearsay evidence) and Section 2 (1) (A) of the Civil Evidence Act. 2.  I understand that the claimant is an Assignee, a buyer of defunct or bad debts, which are bought on mass portfolios at a much reduced cost to the amount claimed and which the original creditors have already wrote off as a capital loss and claimed against taxable income as confirmed in the claimants witness statement exhibit by way of the Deed of Assignment. 3. As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights.  This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information).  The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 4.  I became aware of original Judgement following a routine credit check on or around 14th September 2020. 5. The alleged letter of claim dated 7 January 2020 was served to a previous address which I moved out of in 2018, no effort was made to ascertain my correct address.  I have attached a copy of my tenancy agreement which is marked ‘Appendix 1’ and shows I was residing at a difference address as of 11 December 2018 and was therefore not at the service address at the time the proceedings were served.  I have also attached an email from my solicitors to the Claimants solicitors dated 14 July 2022 which was sent to them requesting that they disclose the trace of evidence they utilised prior to issuing the proceedings against me.  This is marked ‘Appendix 2’. The claimants solicitors did not provide me with these documents. 6. Under The Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims 2017 a Debt Buyer must undertake all reasonable enquiries to ensure the correct address of a debtor, this can be as simple as a credit file search. The Claimant failed to carry out such basic checks. Subsequently all letters prior to and including ,The Pre action Protocol letter of claim dated 7 January 2020 and the claim form dated 14th February 2020 were all served to a previous address which I moved out of in 2018. 7. Upon the discovery of the Judgement debt, I made immediate contact with the Court and the Claimant Solicitors, putting them on notice that I was making investigations in relation to the Judgement debt as it was not familiar to me.  I asked them to provide me with a copy of the original loan agreement but this was not provided to me.   The correspondence to the Claimant Solicitor's is attached and marked ‘Appendix 3’ 8. On (insert date) I successfully made application to set a side the judgment. The claim proceeded to allocation, 9. The claimant failed to comply with the additional directions ordered by District Judge Davis on the 2 February 2024 'The Claim shall be automatically struck out at 4pm on 3 April 2024 unless the Claimant delivers to the Court and to the Defendant the following documents.' None of these documents were received by the court nor the defendant by that date. (insert date you did receive the documents) I then sent a Data Subject Access Request to Barclays but no agreement was provided. Details the timeline of communication between myself and Barclays are attached and marked ‘Appendix 4’and the copies of correspondence between myself and Barclays are attached and marked ‘Appendix 5’. Remove irrelevant 10.The claimant relies upon and has exhibited a reconstituted version of the alleged agreement. It is again denied that I have ever entered into an agreement with Barclaycard on or around 2000.  It is admitted that I did hold other credit agreements with other creditors and as such should this be a debt that was assigned to Barclaycard from another brand therefore the reconstituted agreement disclosed is invalid being pre April 2007 and not legally enforceable pursuant to HHJ Judge Waksman in Carey v HSBC 2009 EWHC3417.  Details of this are attached and marked ‘Appendix 6’. The original credit agreement must be provided along with any reconstituted version on a modified credit agreement and must contain the names and address of debtor and creditor, agreement number and cancelation clause. 11. Therefore the claimant is put to strict proof to disclose a true executed legible agreement on which its claim relies upon and not mislead the court. 12. It is denied I have ever received a default Notice pursuant to sec 87(1) CCA1974.The claimant is put to strict proof to evidence from the original creditors internal document software the trigger of said notice.  13.   As per CPR 1.4(2)(a) the court encourages parties to cooperate with each other in the conduct of proceedings in order to try and save time and costs for the parties and to also save the time and resources of the court however, despite vast attempts at mediation the claimants have been most unreasonable and have remained unwilling to mediate. 14. Until such time the claimant can comply and disclose a true executed copy of the original assigned agreement they refer to within the particulars of this claim they are not entitled while the default continues, to enforce the agreement pursuant to section 78.6 (a) of the Credit Consumer Act 1974. I believe that the facts stated in this Witness Statement are true.  I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. Signed                 ………………………………………………….. Name                  XXXX Date                     30 April 2024   Run 3 copies Court /Claimants Sol/File
    • As one of you mentioned above I've been in a mess for nearly 20 years now and I'm ready to sort my credit report out now - the main reason I got into second round of debt is my kids being unwell and the state considering them not unwell enough for extra help so despite my son being in hospital for 3 months in one year we got extra zero help and I eventually lost my job and got into debt to just so I can be تا my sons hospital bed at his time of need - my life basically fell apart and all these debts got me again 
    • Gosh mate I've woke up this morning with half the worry I had last night when going to sleep!.  I can't believe how much this forum has helped me over the years and I don't  have the words to explain the gratitude I feel towards you guys -  Now that I've slept on it I feel ready to reject this company and my plan is to make them an offer to accept payments to date as full and final settlement - I will I think write them a letter once my review is completed or maybe just send it now whilst they are reviewing explaining my kids are unwell for which reason I'm struggling to survive and if I can politely request for them to accept payment to date as a full and final - I'll mention I don't have any cash or anyone to borrow from to offer a full or even part amount of the remaining balance of the iva and therfore am unable to make a offer of payment.   If they agree to at least even put my offer to the creditors then I feel it's better I hang in there and that way I won't have to deal with any possibilities of more defaults and ccjs    Right now the only adverse effects on my credit report are the iva that is now 3 years old and 2 Ccj one coming of this July and one thus October.    But I am worried new action will begin and new defaults and Ccj may start to appear because I've paying into an agreement im under the impression the 6 year rules starts again so yes I have lost of mixed feelings about this but I'm not going to lie you guys have put some life back into my breath this week as for the last 3 years I've felt caged like an animal and this morning I feel freer I can't explain how much but certainly my soul feel lighter today thanks to yin because I'm now viewing this review totally different to I do yesterday thanks to you guys 
    • Court name UNKNOWN Case number ********** Amount N/A Confirmed by Insolvency Service Date issued May 2021 Type Voluntary Arrangement Notes If you have questions about voluntary arrangements you should speak to the Insolvency Service.     I started this in 2021. So it's been about 3 years I've been paying. 
    • Thanks @lookinforinfo@Nicky Boyi sent across the agreement earlier in this thread. No mention of financial reward to the MA. But, I wouldn't be surprised if it was done on the sly. As I said earlier, the owner of OPS is a convicted criminal, with a very shady reputation around these parts.
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so if you sent your lba on 19th march, you should have filed your claim in court on 2nd april. hsbc don't always respond to your prelims or lba's and it's best to stick to your own timetable. it's your claim, not theirs!!

 

read through as many threads and faq's as you can before you file your claim so you get a good idea of what's likely/not likely to happen adey... that way, you'll not be in for any surprises along the way.

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Yep, as ever netty is right. Stick to your timetable and get your MCOL in now. HSBC have had more than enough time to respond.

 

Good luck!

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adey, before you start you must do your homework. you are going to take a bank to court for your money back, so if you don't understand what you are trying to do from the outset, you'll be ripped to shreads. read the following links i'm sending you and get a better knowledge before you file in court. get it right and you'll be fine. make mistakes now and they'll be harder to correct (and costly)!

 

FAQs :::::::::::::::::::::::::- PLEASE READ THESE FIRST!!!

 

6. Interest calculation spreadsheets

 

Charges description on statements - Please Read

 

start with these for now... come back if you need any help ok

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Hello newbee!

 

We talked in chat and spoke about the next step!

 

Adey - spreadsheet! Don't be too keen to jump ahead or it can cost you your claim.

 

Read this on interest!

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/faqs-please-read-these/25457-guide-reclaiming-bank-charges.html?garpg=4

 

Read the next one to get the spreadsheet. For now the simple version should be fine.

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/faqs-please-read-these/25457-guide-reclaiming-bank-charges.html?garpg=5

 

THEN AND ONLY THEN - when you have worked out the fees....look at below..

 

 

P>S NO CHEATING!!!!!!! IT HAS TO BE RIGHT!!!

 

(comment made after speaking! - meant with a smile!)

 

 

The next step is the court process.

 

Options from here are!

 

You can apply for an exemption through the court when you file your claim so it is worth a read and if in hardship, worth applying.

 

http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/H...fl ets_id=172

 

While it appears a daunting process from here, its not really. Its a series of steps that get you closer to your claim. Use the chat room and your new post here, to gain the support you need.

 

The links below take you directly to templates and all you need to start the process.

 

Make sure you read it through to be informed of choices and if you are stuck for answers, post back on your thread and someone will direct you with a right reply.

 

 

So your options are -

 

Money claim online - No fee remission

 

5. Money Claim On-Line (MCOL) Particulars of Claim

 

 

Preferred personal recommendation! IS N1!

 

N1 at your local court. - Fee remission

 

4. Particulars of claim - N1 - hard copy version

 

When you click on this link at the top of the page is the form you will need and linked to a pdf document. The template and example there can be copied and pasted.

 

That should keep you reading and informed for the next step after the letter.

 

Good luck and if you need help look me up in the chat room!

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well, after that chat i recalculated my charges and interest and completed my N1. Sent them off in the post yesterday. Just got back from work and have received an offer from HSBC.

 

The charges I calculated they owed me was £1180 charges and £292 interest on those charges. (Not overdraft interest but the 8% calc).

 

They have offered £1019....

 

What do you advise? Bear in mind if I act quickly I could stop the court action (£120).

 

They state that some of the charges are over 6 years old, thats only because its taken them so long to reply to my letter!

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that would all depend on your circumstances and how fast you needed the money!! it's up to you.

 

whatever you do, good luck/happy spending and well done!

 

(that was quite painless!):)

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called HSBC service centre today to discuss their offer, took over 25 minutes to get through to someone! sent of my rejection letter shortly after, hopefully they will send me an increased offer before the 2 week deadline I set out..otherwise I'll resend my N1 - last one was returned because I forgot to name the defendant, simply putting HSBC will not do!

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Well, I received an offer of my bank charges only, £1160, which i accepted. I was asking for £1450 in total so the offer wasnt far off and to be honest i wasn't looking forward to going to court. Checked my bank balance this morning and the Charges have been refunded. Took them about 5 working days to process.

 

Just like to say thanks to everyone who helped me. The advice I received from everyone here was brilliant, spreadsheets and sample letters were invaluable.

 

Thanks again peeps.

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