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    • If I have learnt one thing from this forum, it's not to call and communicate via email. I passed this info on to her and they are pushing for her to call them.    "Unfortunately, you will need to call us. The conversation won’t be so black and white as to therefore type over email. In a nutshell we can confirm that the request to not pay for 3 months we cannot put in place"  I emailed them back on her behalf and said that what ever is discussed over the phone will need to be put in an email so that she can review it properly. No decisions will be made on that phone call.    "Once we speak to you on the phone we will follow up with an email to confirm the options discussed. [Phone number]"   Why are they pushing for a phone call? If its not so black and white, why can they then follow up with an email?  
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This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information). The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 2. The Claim relates to an alleged Credit Card agreement between the Defendant and Bank of Scotland plc. Save insofar of any admittance it is accepted that the Defendant has had contractual agreements with Bank of Scotland plc in the past, the Defendant is unaware as to what alleged debt the Claimant refers. The Defendant has not entered any contract with the Claimant. 3. 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Without the Claimant providing a valid true copy of the executed Credit agreement that complies with the CCA, the Claimant has no grounds on which to enforce this alleged debt. 11. The Claimant has been unjustly enriched at the expense of the Defendant by purchasing bulk debt at a greatly reduced cost and subrogating for the original creditor in trying to recuperate the full amount of the original debt 12. The Defendant was not given ample evidence to prove the debt and therefore was not required to enter settlement negotiations. Should the debt be proved in the future, the Defendant is willing to enter such negotiations with the Claimant. On receipt of this claim I could not recall the precise details of the agreement or any debt and sought clarity from the claimant by way of a Section 78 request. The Claimant failed to comply. I can only assume as this was due to the Claimant not having any enforceable documentation and issuing a claim in hope of an undefended default judgment.   Statement of Truth I, ********, the Defendant, believe the facts stated within this Witness Statement to be true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in it’s truth. Signed: _________________________ _______ Dated: _____________________
    • Morning,  I am hoping someone can help, I am posting on behalf of my friend so I will try and provide as much info as possible.  Due health reasons, she is currently not working and unable to pay her contractual car finance payments. She emailed 247 Money and asked for a 3 month payment holiday, they refused this straight away with no reasons as to why. They have told her that instead she can make a payment of £200. She is currently getting £400+ a month ssp so this is not acceptable. She went back to them and explained she cannot make this payment and they have not offered an alternative plan. Its £200 or she falls into default.  She is now panicking as she does not want her car to be taken away. What options does she have?  Thank you, 
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Hi, If the bank ask for a stay then he court can decide for or against it, if the court say that it has been stayed, then it is on hold for the time being, the bank will write to you and make it seem as though because they have asked for it, then thats it, but you need to carry on with your claim and comply with any court orders until the court tell you different,

 

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As Lula says, Only the court can stay a claim.

Until you receive a letter from the court, telling you, then just carry on with your claim.

 

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It is rather odd that they didnt file the standard defence, havent heard from anyone else how they are treating cases at wandsworth, may be worth giving them a quick bell to ee if they are staying claims or continuing as normal.

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Abbey didn't respond to my claim, so judgement was entered last week. The Abbey phone line says any court cliams will be responded to with a request for the court to stay the claim pending the test case.

 

Is there anyway for me to counter this by writing to the court and suggesting that the stay shouldn't be granted as a defence was never entered???

 

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They cant enter a stay as they didnt answer your claim, you should ask the judge to rule against them.

 

Did they not enter a defence within the 28 days? or Acknowledge within 14 days?

 

If not then the judge needs to rule in your favour, ignore Abbeys spill.

 

I gather you receievd a Notice of Issue from the court? From the date of Issue Abbey has 28 Days.

 

If they have not, fill out the request for Judgement and send it special delivery or even better go down there yourself.

 

Hope that helps

 

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Set aside is that more time or a stay:confused:

 

A set aside is when they ask for the DJ to set the ruling aside, usually because they say they didnt receive any paperwork!!!

 

The worst thing is that it is usually granted and then the beggers will go for a stay. When they apply for the set aside you need to object and say that this is an Abuse of Process as they have never set food in a court room and have no intention of doing so.

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Ok. So I wait for Abbey to respond and ask for the case to be set aside, then ask the judge not to allow it due to Abuse of Process as they have never set foot in a court or have any intention of doing so.

 

Is there a letter in the templates area asking the judge not to allow the stay due to the Abuse of Process? :cool:

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Abbey, having not responded previously to my claim, having judgement entered against them, are about to ask the court to set my claim aside pending the test case.

 

Does anyone know of a template letter I could use asking the DJ to disallow their request, and to enforce judgement, due to Abuse of Process (they never even enetered a defence, or even acknowledged my claim).

 

Perhaps I could quote relevant cases of claims previously settled out of court by Abbey, or cases where the set aside was disallowed due to Abuse of Process.

 

Any ideas? :rolleyes:

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A set aside has the effect of nullifying something.

 

A stay is a deferment.

 

I cannot predict what Abbey will do, other than to say they will do something to avoid paying.

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Steve, if judgment has been entered against Abbey, I would be very surprised if they did anything except pay you.

 

They would have to apply asap after getting the judgment, showing an intention to defend the claim. They will have to pay to do this (at least £35).

 

What does their letter say exactly? it may be that they want to ask for a stay, not realising that judgment has already been entered? Hope so!

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Judgement on my claim was entered on 10th August after Abbey failed to enter a defence (or respond at all) to my claim. Their phone line states they will ask for all claims to be 'put on hold' - do they mean 'stayed' ? - pending the test case. However, as yet they have not responded to the judgement.

 

Friendly words on this site advised me to object to their application to set the judgement aside (before they do) stating Abbey's Abuse of Process.

 

I called the court this morning. The person answering the phone advised me to enter a Warrant of Execution.

 

Which is the best thing to do ?

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Judgement on my claim was entered on 10th August after Abbey failed to enter a defence (or respond at all) to my claim. Their phone line states they will ask for all claims to be 'put on hold' - do they mean 'stayed' ? - pending the test case. However, as yet they have not responded to the judgement.

 

Friendly words on this site advised me to object to their application to set the judgement aside (before they do) stating Abbey's Abuse of Process.

 

I called the court this morning. The person answering the phone advised me to enter a Warrant of Execution.

 

Which is the best thing to do ?

 

If you have a notice of judgement (N30 Judgement for Claimand (In Default))from the court and the date stated for payment has passed then you can apply to the court for a warrant of execution.

 

Hope this helps!

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It depends what box you ticked on the judgement form - if you asked for payment to be made forthwith, thats what Shabbey have to do - pay up now! However, bear in mind that a warrant will cost extra to issue, & if you're too fast to issue it, they may have paid up before the warrant is issued & the bailiffs get the paperwork & get round there. I'm in the same posistion as you - Abbey never replied to my claim either. Judgement for me was entered on the 13th & I'm still waiting, I'll probably be popping to court tomorrow, I think 9 days is reasonable. I'll be asking for them to visit my local branch so I can get down there & record it for posterity he he.

April 2007: Claim v Abbey settled £680!

July 2007: Claim 2 for £307 WON! after quiet word from the bailiff!!

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did you have to send the bailiffs in before? Can we send them to our local branch rather than head office? Do you think Abbey will apply to have the warrant suspended?

 

On their phone line Abbey say they will apply for all claims to be put on hold pending the test case. Are you expecting them to pay up or appeal against the judgement?

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