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    • The property was our family home.  A fixed low rate btl/ development loan was given (last century!). It was derelict. Did it up/ was rented out for a while.  Then moved in/out over the years (mostly around school)  It was a mix of rental and family home. The ad-hoc rents covered the loan amply.  Nowadays  banks don't allow such a mix.  (I have written this before.) Problems started when the lease was extended and needed to re-mortgage to cover the expense.  Wanted another btl.  Got a tenant in situ. Was located elsewhere (work). A broker found a btl lender, they reneged.  Broker didn't find another btl loan.  The tenant was paying enough to cover the proposed annual btl mortgage in 4 months. The broker gave up trying to find another.  I ended up on a bridge and this disastrous path.  (I have raised previous issues about the broker) Not sure what you mean by 'split'.  The property was always leasehold with a separate freeholder  The freeholder eventually sold the fh to another entity by private agreement (the trust) but it's always been separate.  That's quite normal.  One can't merge titles - unless lease runs out/ is forfeited and new one is not created/ granted.
    • Northmonk forget what I said about your Notice to Hirer being the best I have seen . Though it  still may be  it is not good enough to comply with PoFA. Before looking at the NTH, we can look at the original Notice to Keeper. That is not compliant. First the period of parking as sated on their PCN is not actually the period of parking but a misstatement  since it is only the arrival and departure times of your vehicle. The parking period  is exactly that -ie the time youwere actually parked in a parking spot.  If you have to drive around to find a place to park the act of driving means that you couldn't have been parked at the same time. Likewise when you left the parking place and drove to the exit that could not be describes as parking either. So the first fail is  failing to specify the parking period. Section9 [2][a] In S9[2][f] the Act states  (ii)the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver, the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Your PCN fails to mention the words in parentheses despite Section 9 [2]starting by saying "The notice must—..." As the Notice to Keeper fails to comply with the Act,  it follows that the Notice to Hirer cannot be pursued as they couldn't get the NTH compliant. Even if the the NTH was adjudged  as not  being affected by the non compliance of the NTK, the Notice to Hirer is itself not compliant with the Act. Once again the PCN fails to get the parking period correct. That alone is enough to have the claim dismissed as the PCN fails to comply with PoFA. Second S14 [5] states " (5)The notice to Hirer must— (a)inform the hirer that by virtue of this paragraph any unpaid parking charges (being parking charges specified in the notice to keeper) may be recovered from the hirer; ON their NTH , NPE claim "The driver of the above vehicle is liable ........" when the driver is not liable at all, only the hirer is liable. The driver and the hirer may be different people, but with a NTH, only the hirer is liable so to demand the driver pay the charge  fails to comply with PoFA and so the NPE claim must fail. I seem to remember that you have confirmed you received a copy of the original PCN sent to  the Hire company plus copies of the contract you have with the Hire company and the agreement that you are responsible for breaches of the Law etc. If not then you can add those fails too.
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    • I understand what you mean. But consider that part of the problem, and the frustration of those trying to help, is the way that questions are asked without context and without straight facts. A lot of effort was wasted discussing as a consumer issue before it was mentioned that the property was BTL. I don't think we have your history with this property. Were you the freehold owner prior to this split? Did you buy the leasehold of one half? From a family member? How was that funded (earlier loan?). How long ago was it split? Have either of the leasehold halves changed hands since? I'm wondering if the split and the leashold/freehold arrangements were set up in a way that was OK when everyone was everyone was connected. But a way that makes the leasehold virtually unsaleable to an unrelated party.
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Got a letter back within a week, basically saying 'We've got your letter but we won't be getting back to you within 14 days'.

Anyway, the 14 days have gone by, they haven't got back to me so I have sent them a letter before action.

I await their reply by 14th June.

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Oh Dear. Silly Barclays I got a letter from the court today saying that they've entered a defence regarding my claim of non compliance with the Dpa. They want proof!!! Where do I start? My letter from the ICO? Unbelievable, I have all the proof, they are not scaring me.

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UNBELIEVABLE!!!!! I received a letter today from Barclays addressed to a different name than myself, I opened the letter and it said "We are investigating a complaint that you made to The Information Commisioner about us but we cannot trace you by your account number or address, please give us more information".

I have sent a letter back basically saying "The reason you can't trace my name to an account number or address is because you are looking under the wrong name!!!

I have checked my reply from The Information Commisioner and they have used the correct name so if Barclays come back and say that The Information Commisioner sent them the wrong information then i'll just say "Well, isn't it strange that they addressed their letter to the right person!!!".

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I love it!!! It was Barclays last day tomorrow to file a defence & i've just checked Mcol & lo & behold, they have submitted a defence!!!

I now have to wait for it to be allocated to a court.

BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I received a notice of Transfer of proceedings today from the court.

It says Case No : 13456

Between : Ms Anon

And Barclays Bank Plc

Before District Judge Murdoch

Sitting at Northampton County Court

 

Without Hearing

 

Date order drawn 12th July 2007

 

 

 

Barclays have put in their standard defence.( I won't bore you with it )

 

I am sending my Schedule of charges to Barclays Litigation Team tomorrow.

What do I send to the court or do I just wait,they haven't asked for anything.

 

HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Send a covering letter to the Court and Barclays, or,

you could just do the one letter to the court and c.c. it to Barclays Legal department level 29, one churchill place london. etc...

and say something to the effect that you are sending a 'further copy' of your statement of charges to the court and to the Defendant, re their defence.

 

Odd, usually the court ask for documents to be relied upon to be supplied 14 days before court date.

Comply with anything you are to do by the court, and in plenty of time. If you are in any doubt you could always ring the court for confirmation/clarification.

 

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Yeh I know it, you know it but i wanna check that the defence doesnt state the crud about the particulars etc..

Ole Scouse may have a 'standard defence' but might be std in the way that they are claiming insufficient POC's

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Point taken... we must be careful... i put a comment on another thread that the POC's that are causing probs are from the other site

Yes ive noticed A LOT coming from the other siteS [not just Lewis's] are cutting serious corners.

Also MCOL are causing huge headaches, either losing or delaying claims......AND. AND the POC's used in MCOL are now deemed unsuitable cos they do not allow enough room to elaborate.

I'd suggest new claimants go straight to N1 forget MCOL.

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lol...yep... but won't it cost £35 to change poc's?

 

I have heard some have been charged the fee but many are allowed to simply update the original, esp if originated from MCOl

 

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If you find you have made an error in your particulars of claim, or you need to amend them for any other reason, after you have started proceedings but before judgment has been entered, you can only do so with either

  • the written consent of all parties to the claim or
  • permission of the court.

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In a Nutshell :

 

1, POC do not provide details

2, POC are summary in nature

3, The defendant is entitled to charge the claimant for unathorised borrowing as per T&C's

4, The defendant's T&C's give the claimant a fair and transparent view of the terms and charges applicable

5, the charges are what the claimant agreed to pay via the T&C's

6, the charges are not in breech of the unfair terms in consumer contracts reg 1999

7, therefore, charges were not unlawfully debited

8, charges were incurred when the claimant went into overdraft without agreement

9, the charges are lawful enforceable

10, if the charges is incorrent then the claimant cannot claim for any charges before 2001 as per limitation act 2001

11 In the alterative and without prejudice to matters stated above, if (which is denied) the said charges and interest or any part thereof are unlawful or unenforceableas alleged by the claimant or at all, and the charges were a consequence of the breach of contract by the claimant, the defendant has nonetheless suffered loss & damage as a consequence of such a breach of contract in allowing the account to go into an unauthorised overdraft. Accordingly, in the event that the defendant is unable to rely on it's express entitlement to enforce the charges as set out above, it will seek to recover to the extent necessary such loss and damage as it actually suffered, which will not necessarily be limited to the value of the said charges, and the defendant seeks to set off such sums against any liability owed hereunder to the claimant.

 

(Very confused by the last bit, that's why i've typed it word for word)

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