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A Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi (200 P S) 4x4 Wildtrack  Double Cab Pickup 3200cc (Sep.2015) Registration No, ******* Chassis number ***************** (“The Vehicle”).  A copy of the agreement is attached   2.  The price of the goods was £15,995.00.  The Initial Rental was £8500.00.  The total charge for credit was £3575.;17 And the balance of £11,070.17 was payable by 59 equal consecutive monthly instalments of £187 63. payable on the 25th of each month.   3.  The following were expressed conditions of the set agreement,   Clause 8: Our Right to End this Agreement  8.1   Subject to sending you the notice as required by law, any of the following events will entitle us to end this Agreement: 8.1.2  You fail to pay the advance payment (if any) or any of the payments as specified on the front page of this agreement or any other sum payable under this Agreement. 8.1.3 If any of the information you have given us before entering into this Agreement or during the term of this Agreement was false 8.1.4 We consider, acting reasonably, that the goods may be in jeopardy or that our rights in the goods may otherwise be prejudiced. 8.1.5 If you die 8.1.6 If a bankruptcy petition is presented against you; if you petition for your own bankruptcy, or make a live arrangement with your creditors or call a meeting of them. 8. 1.7 If in Scotland, you become insolvent or sequestration or a receiver, judicial factor or trustee to be appointed over any of your estate, or effects or suffer an arrestment, charge attachment or other diligence to be issued or levied on any of your estate or effects or suffer any exercise, or threatened exercise of landlords hype hypothec 8.1.8 If you are a partnership, you are dissolved 8.1.9 If the goods are destroyed, lost, stolen and/or treated by the insurer as a total loss in response to an insurance claim. 8.1.10 If we reasonably believe any payment made to us in respect of this Agreement is a proceed of crime. 8.1.11 If steps are taken by us to terminate any other agreement which you have entered into with us.   Clause 9.  Effect of Us Terminating Agreement   9.1 If this Agreement terminates under clause 8 the following will apply 9.1.1 Subject to the rights given to you by law, you will no longer be entitled to possession of the goods and must return them to us to an address as we may reasonably specify, (removing or commencing the removal of any cherished plates) together with a V5 registration certificate, both sets of keys and a service record book. If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate   4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:-   a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement number 756050. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     Thw total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by Firrst class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges ]= 5.  A the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or  alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage.   Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs.   Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024   What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg
    • Now that is an interesting article which adds afew perspective that I hadn't thought significant - but on reflection of the perspectives offered ... Now Starmer is no Blair, however 'blairite he may be perceived, but the Tories aren't tories and aren't even remotely liberal   The fast 'unannounced and unexpected election call from sunack may well be explained by the opinion linked that he hoped reform would be unprepared and effectively call a chunk of Farages largely empty bluster - making him look even more of a prat, leave scope for attacks on shabby reform candidates and mimimise core vote losses to reform - while throwing the 'middle ground' (relative) tories TO THE DOGS - and with the added bonus of likely pacifying his missu' desire to jogg off to sunny cal tout suite somewhat   thumb in the air - I expect about 140ish tory seats, but can hope for under a hundred Reform - got to admit the outside possibility of 1, maybe 2 seats with about 8% of the vote - but unlikely. I think projections of over 10% of the vote for reform is nudged and paid for speculation - but possible with the expected massive drives from Russian, Chinese and far right social media bot and troll prods targeting the gullible.
    • Commentary June 2024 WWW.ELECTORALCALCULUS.CO.UK Interesting article about just how bad it could be for the Tories.  Also Tories could be hoping on Reform not having candidates in many seats, as they were not ready.  
    • Even a Piers Morgan is an improvement and a gutless Farage Piers Morgan calls for second Brexit referendum WWW.THELONDONECONOMIC.COM Piers Morgan and Nigel Farage have faced off over Brexit and a second referendum in a heated reunion on BBC Question Time.   “Why don’t we have another referendum about Brexit?” he questioned. “I seem to remember when 2016 came around we were told there was going to be control of our borders and it was going to be economically beneficial to this country. And eight years later we have lost complete control of our borders… and economically it seems to have been a wilful act of self-harm.”   ... Piers missed off : after all somebody said a 48/52 decision would be "unfinished business" by a long way - was that person just bul lying (again)  
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Yep, you ring general customer services to ask if letters being received, they have no access to THAT notes system so they so no as no notes on the system. Why? Because they cannot tell you whether it has or has not been delivered(bless em they may not know that CRU have their own notes systems). The offer bit they would see on the screen but if you want to talk to someone in the know then Borehamwood number every time before 5 of course.

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Its your money taken unlawfully from your account and you have a legal right to claim it back.

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Hey morteee, you know what to do girl!!! You can feel it coming anyway............ so get filed at court and sort the bug*ers out! xxx :p

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I KNOW they have offered me my full costs and that has been noted at the bank on my file from the phone call so right now I cant file or I am gonna look unreasonable, I am going to claim that it has been lost in the post on friday so they resend it, that is what a nice lady in customer services suggested I do when I called saturday am as she was very sympathetic :)

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Hmmm.........but think they're takin' the mick a bit now mort!!! How long have you been holdin' on for now???? Either they credit your account - or you file at court and get the 8% interest!!! Something's gonna have to give though honey!!!! xxxxx:p

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compared to some people I havent actually had to wait that long tbh and I have been assured that the letter will be with me by the 15th May so 2 weeks is no extra skin off my nose tbh, anyway the way I look at it is if I hold on those 2 weeks and still then have to claim for my money I have an even stronger case especially as I will be claiming contractual to bite them in the ass!

 

I am a patient soul so am more than happy to give them an extra 2 weeks to hang themselves, I am also REALLY looking foward to clearing my OD and loan with them and telling them to stuff their banking business when it lands in my account as well although the REALLY evil side of me is thinking about leaving a quid in there so they have to go to all the trouble of sending me statements and paying me interest over the years, hell I'll even move the quid in and out of my other account just to make them do some work from tiem to time ;)

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Hmmm........ you're way more patient than me hun!!! Personally, think you've given them loads of time, but I understand your reasonings behind it as well!! I'll be joining you after tomorrow anyways, cos my LBA's up from tomorrow............. not sure I'll be as patient as you though- you total star!!! xxxxxxxxxx :p

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Mortee, kick up a stink and say that you want it SORTED TODAY(well tomorrow) not tomorrow or you will sue as they have been UNREASONABLE to you

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spoke to them yesterday, threatened them with the financial ombudsman, the FSA and also the information comissioner as they havent fully fulfilled my SAR, also threatened them with OFT as well as they have given me 3 different timescales as to a resolution and have moved the goal posts several times, when they blamed the delays on them being exceptionally busy due to the sheer number of claims I pointed out that their staffing issues were NOT my concern and that if I had owed them 3k they would be merrily slapping on charges and interest and that if this wasnt resolved asap I would be doing the same

 

I have been given the name of one of the head boffins at the CRU and he has assured me he will do everything he can to get my letter fast tracked, he has also reversed the charges placed on my account since the action started (muhahahahahahahaha)

 

only 11 days til their next self imposed time limit is up and that happens to be my next pay day so I will have the funds to send it to court and will do so on the 19th may!

 

if they want to waste my time and play silly beggers then I can too!

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just a quick update, nothing has been recieved in the post as yet and I have taken thursday and friday off work to get it sorted as the last day is today!

 

I am allowing them 2 days (until thursday) to allow for the vagaries of royal mail then the letters I have prepared for FOS, FSA, OFT, Information comissioner and watchdog will be sent and my N1 will be filed!

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hey morteee........... get yer N1 filed at court - they've messed you about for long enough now honey!!!! Mine's going today as well - so get yer bum in gear and go file at Court!!!!

 

Go for it!!!! xxxxxx :p

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friday my dear friday - rang them from work today and was told.....

 

"we have until thursday the 17th to respond to your claim"

 

when asked what I should do if nothing has dropped in the post come thursday I was told

 

"call us and we will arrange for a duplicate letter to be sent which will take up to 10 days to arrive with you"

 

so really it's 8 weeks PLUS 10 days (10 days they WONT be getting from me I have held off for long enough!)

 

one other thing that has REALLY got my goat is when I called up (my real name is very distinctive) the girl I spoke to said

 

"ooo it's you, they were talking about you in the office yesterday"

 

WTF!!!!!!!!!!

 

she refused to elaborate when asked WHY I was being discussed

 

and yes the conversation WAS taped as I rang from work and we tape ALL conversations as standard so I have that on my pc now!

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Hi Mortee

I am in same position rang them yesterday and was told they have until 24th to reply to me - so me thinking that it simply aint going to arrive. So even though have given them benefit of doubt and waited because they where sooooo busy!!!!! Looks like I should have listened to everyone at CAG and stuck with my own timetable.

Also have you read the thread " Judges getting fed up *all read* " it looks like this timewasting is going to get the banks in further s***e (hopefully)

 

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Yaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy for filing at court!!! Morteee, you've gotta be the most patient soul I've known in a long time ('cept for Parkie!!!)

 

No disrespect honey, but reckon they're just playing for time. I filed N1 at county court today and skipped out of the place!!!! Felt good to know they'd have to pay my court fees and 8% interest on top!!! If you've got nothing through the post in the next couple of day........... sock it to 'em girl!!!!!!!!!!!! xxxxxxxxxx :p

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dear mr or ms moderator

 

please update my thread with the word WON in BIG FAT LETTERS!

 

I have recieved my offer of FULL settlement and it will be in my account within 10 working days muhahahahaa

 

thanks for all the support everyone (someone please let Nattie know as well)

 

and as soon as my dosh has cleared I shall send a nice donation to the site!

 

keep on rocking guys!

 

Morteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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MORTEEEEEEEEE, PLEASE LET ME BE THE FIRST TO WISH YOU A SINCEREST CONGRATULATIONS.............. SERIOUSLY, IM CHUFFED AS HECK FOR YA............. WELL DONE, AND WELL DONE FOR HOLDING YOUR NERVE AND PATIENCE THROUGHOUT.

 

BRILLIANT.

 

SEE EVERYBODY, PEEPS ARE STILL WINNING, LLOYS FLUKE, NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.

 

ONWARD AND UPWARD, THEYRE STILL PAYING OUT, SO THEY STILL KNOW THEYRE WRONG AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS UNLAWFUL,

 

OR THEY WOULDNT BE MAKING OFFERS AND PAYOUTS.

 

GET IT, BUSINESS AS USUAL, EVERYBODY KEEP THE CLAIMS GOING ONWARD AND UPWARD.

 

MORTEEEEEE, BRILLIANT BRILLIANT NEWS. FANTASTIC.

 

Fendy Weather xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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Morteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee..................... CONGRATULATIONS HONEY !!!!! And about blo*dy time they paid up an' all!!!!!!!!!!! Bet it feels great - well done you!!! Love, hedgey xxxx :p

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CONGRATULATIONS , Another fine win. You hung in there and received your just reward. Enjoy your win.

A person is only as big as the dream they dare to live.

 

 

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Its your money taken unlawfully from your account and you have a legal right to claim it back.

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