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    • "We suffer more in imagination than in reality" - really pleased this all happened. Settled by TO, full amount save as to costs and without interest claimed. I consider this a success but feel free to move this thread to wherever it's appropriate. I say it's a success because when I started this journey I was in a position of looking to pay interest on all these accounts, allowing them to default stopped that and so even though I am paying the full amount, it is without a doubt reduced from my position 3 years ago and I feel knowing this outcome was possible, happy to gotten this far, defended myself in person and left with a loan with terms I could only dream of, written into law as interest free! I will make better decisions in the future on other accounts, knowing key stages of this whole process. We had the opportunity to speak in court, Judge (feels like just before a ruling) was clear in such that he 'had all the relevant paperwork to make a judgement'. He wasn't pleased I hadn't settled before Court.. but then stated due to WS and verbal arguments on why I haven't settled, from my WS conclusion as follows: "11. The Defendant was not given ample evidence to prove the debt and therefore was not required to enter settlement negotiations. Should the debt be proved in the future, the Defendant is willing to enter such negotiations with the Claimant. "  He offered to stand down the case to give us chance to settle and that that was for my benefit specifically - their Sols didn't want to, he asked me whether I wanted to proceed to judgement or be given the opportunity to settle. Naturally, I snapped his hand off and we entered negotiations (took about 45 minutes). He added I should get legal advice for matters such as these. They were unwilling to agree to a TO unless it was full amount claimed, plus costs, plus interest. Which I rejected as I felt that was unfair in light of the circumstances and the judges comments, I then countered with full amount minus all costs and interest over 84 months. They accepted that. I believe the Judge wouldn't have been happy if they didn't accept a payment plan for the full amount, at this late stage. The judge was very impressed by my articulate defence and WS (Thanks CAG!) he respected that I was wiling to engage with the process but commented only I  can know whether this debt is mine, but stated that Civil cases were based on balance of probabilities, not without shadow of a doubt, and all he needs to determine is whether the account existed. Verbal arguments aside; he has enough evidence in paperwork for that. He clarified that a copy of a DN and NOA is sufficient proof based on balance of probabilities that they were served. I still disagree, but hey, I'm just me.. It's definitely not strict proof as basically I have to prove the negative (I didn't receive them/they were not served), which is impossible. Overall, a great result I think! BT  
    • Seeking further advice now. The 33 days in which the defendant has to submit a defence expires at 16:00 tomorrow. The defendant has submitted an acknowledgement of service but looking to get the claim awarded by default in failure to submit the defence. This is MoneyClaim Online and can see an option to request a default judgement but believe that is for failure to acknowledge the claim within 14 days??  So being MoneyClaim Online, how do I request the claim be awarded in my favour?
    • Have to agree with the above Health and safety legislation is specific in that the service provider in so far as is reasonably practicable, the health, safety and welfare at work of all his employees and those not in the employ of the business. You claim is like saying you slipped in the swimming pool area while taking a dip. As rightly stated by by the leisure centre, a sports hall has dedicated equipment and you yourself personally have a legal obligation in mitigating danger or injury to yourself by taking account of your immediate surroundings. Where your claim will fail is if it is reasonable and proportionate to impose liability of the Leisure Centre? The answer has to be no.
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Hi, haven't been in touch for a while as had a million things going on!

 

Not sure where i left off - had a part settlement offer letter from Cobbetts on 15th December offering me a "goodwill payment" of £1,800 - i am claiming over £4,000.

 

I wrote to them on 19th Dec saying i was respectfully declining and that i would be willing to withdraw my claim upon receipt of full settlement - i have not heard from them since!

 

I received a Notice of Allocation to the Small Claims Track (preliminary hearing) from Dartford County Court dated 12th January giving me a preliminary hearing date for 5 April 2007. It states that the judge requires a preliminary hearing because:-

 

special directions are needed in this claim to prepare for the final hearing which the judge would prefer to explain to you in person.

 

Has anyone else come across this? Does it mean that i am going to have to wait until April? Am i expected to have to go to court or will Cobbetts pay up at the last minute?

 

I can't believe it, i thought i was going to get a nice little gift for Xmas. Have i been too greedy asking for the full amount £4,139.86 (instead of their offer of £1,800)?

 

Can anyone help me on this one, I feel like i could have lost this now!

 

Jo :-(

 

p.s. only had 1 reply to date and really would appreciate if anyone could take the time to help me out on this

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that someone has lost?

Yes in May 2005, on a technicality,but not since

 

Not sure where i'm supposed to post my questions is under my thread each time? (i.e. here?).

 

Yes then people can see your progress in 1 thread. Each time you or someone else posts, your thread goes to the top of the pile.
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You keep all the updates to your thread including any questions as that way we can look at your STORY SO FAR and advise you, good luck in regard sto this question

 

 

special directions are needed in this claim to prepare for the final hearing which the judge would prefer to explain to you in person.

the preliminary hearing that the judge has asked for will be explained when you get there, this is not unusual and you will be advised by the judge as to what the special directions are, could be a few things but dont worry about it,, you will be fine.

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I can't believe it, i thought i was going to get a nice little gift for Xmas. Have i been too greedy asking for the full amount £4,139.86 (instead of their offer of £1,800)?

 

 

You have in no way been too greedy, you are entitled to all of this money and therefore should fight for the full settlement.

 

When you have any further questions post them on this same thread, as Michael has pointed out your thread will then move to the top of the pile. If you feel your questions are not being answered, then post again to move your thread to the top again.

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