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    • We need to see the actual document from the IAS where it is written - "The Operator's evidence shows no payment for the Appellant's vehicle, or anything similar. It does show two payments for the same registration in quick succession. I would take a reasonable guess, based on the circumstances described, that the person paying has paid for the registration of the person they assisted again." You can't just type it up yourself. At the hearing in July or August or whenever the judge will have two Witness Statements. One from Bank's director says you never made a second appeal. You say you did make a second appeal and the IAS concluded that payment was made. The judge will immediately twig that either you or the director is lying.  But who? Fail to show the documentation form the IAS and instead just produce something you've typed yourself will make it look like you just made up the appeal and you are lying and you will lose the case. Please let us see what the IAS adjudicator sent.
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The Client purchases the other materials necessary for resale of the Goods independently of this agreement. The Client shall have exclusive rights for resale of Goods at ###########, and also with permission, as a retailer of the Goods elsewhere, provided that there is no conflict of interest between the Supplier and the Client. The Client is free to decide their own retail prices, for the Goods. The Supplier shall use #####  to provide the printed Goods on Fujifilm Crystal Archive paper, with Lustre finish, and will not use any other Printer unless #### cease to trade, without prior approval from the Client. The Supplier shall not impose restrictions on size or frequency of orders made by the Client. The prices provided by the Supplier shall not increase for a minimum of 3 years, unless the prices of the raw materials rise, in which case the client will be informed immediately. Any discounts/promotional prices of raw materials shall be passed on to the Client by the Supplier, and the invoice will show adjustments for this, as well as credit for return postage of any damaged goods. This agreement can be terminated by the Client without notice; the Supplier must give notice of no less than 90 days, unless the terms of the agreement are breached, in which case, the agreement can be terminated with immediate effect. PAYMENT Orders must be paid for upon receipt of invoice, via Bank transfer: ######### Doc ID: 3d54c1d336d8780243801e0e068ebd33114b088b DELIVERY AND INSPECTIONS All orders received by 12.00am (midnight) shall be processed by the Supplier the following working day and delivery of order shall arrive in accordance with the Royal Mail schedule, or DPD, should express delivery be requested. The Client shall be liable for the delivery charge which shall be added to the invoice. The Goods will be delivered to the address specified by the Client. The Client shall be provided with order tracking, and should any problems arise with the ordering system or the couriers (Royal Mail, DPD), the Client shall be informed without delay of any such issues. The Client will inspect the Goods and report any defects or damage to the Goods in transit as soon as possible upon receipt of Goods, and will retain damaged Goods for return to Supplier for refund/replacement. GENERAL PROVISIONS CONFIDENTIALITY The prices of the Goods and other information contained in this Agreement is confidential and will not be disclosed by either party unless with prior written consent of the other party. INDEMNIFICATION The Client indemnifies the Supplier from any claims, liabilities, and expenses made by any third party vendors or customers of the Client. GOVERNING LAW This Agreement will be governed by and construed in accordance with UK Law. ACCEPTANCE Both parties understand and accept the wholesale arrangement stipulated under this Agreement. Doc ID: 3d54c1d336d8780243801e0e068ebd33114b088b IN WITNESS WHEREOF, each of the Parties has executed this Wholesale Agreement as of the day and year set forth above.   Signed by us both electronically.   I haven't broached any of this yet, and I am looking for some advice about what action to take.  The main issue I've got is that he has still go those images.  If I terminate the contract, I will need to know that he no longer has those images and I can't think of a bulletproof way to do this. I'm thinking I might tell him I will continue with the contract but ask for a  sum in damages and say that if I find out he's still doing it down the line I will terminate the contract and sue him for damages. The damages side of things I'm not sure how it would work as he is self employed, and I'm positive he doesn't declare all of his earnings to HMRC, in order to find out how much I have lost, would the court demand to go through his tax self assessments?  I'm not sure how to proceed with this, I don't want to lose that place as an outlet as it is in a prime spot in London, which is why I let him have those images in the first place as I would have had to pull out altogether at that point.  I am regretting it somewhat now though.  Please help.
    • I cannot locate anything in my paper work that states 2 payments were made? Perhaps you could point this out? In reply from IAS it states "The ticketing data has been attached" nothing was sent to me. I made a response to the IAS all this was done online
    • Thanks again for your responses. The concern I have here, is that freeholder of the land (a company, who presumably would have been the ones to have initially instructed PPM to manage the parking here), will have proof of exactly how long the vehicle was on site for, as the driver was meeting operatives from that company on a separate matter. On this basis, if the matter was to get to court, I feel all the other technicalities about signage, size of signage/font, lack of start/finish times, will not be enough to have any case dropped? This PCN was brought up to the freeholder but they have advised that PPM will not waive this charge. 
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Hi Clint,

 

Have you hear anything yet? Any offers?

 

I haven't heard a thing...

Halifax Card: Claim served 30th Mar - they met 2nd AQ deadline - waiting for Directions/Court Date

Monument Card: Claim served 30th Mar - Directions taken - 14 + 14 day deadline 18th June - settlement signed & waiting for cheque

CitiCards: Claim served 6th April - Defendant's docs (only) to be received by 25th June - case back to Judge 2nd July

A+L (SETTLED IN FULL): Prelim sent 16th April - Claim settled 4th June (on the defence deadline)

Debenhams Store Card (SETTLED IN FULL): Prelim sent 17th Feb - Claim settled on 14th Mar (3 days before LBA deadline)

MINT Card (SETTLED IN FULL): Prelim sent 8th Feb - claim settled 14th Apr (1 day after defence deadline)

HSBC (SETTLED FOR 8% INTEREST): Prelim sent 15th Jan - claim settled 18th May (after AQ deadline)

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received my acknowledgement today. Can anyone give me info for timelines.

The acknowledgement of service copy is dated 13th feb signed by Deb D'Aubney, and the box intend to defend is ticked.

Do I have 28 days from this date?

What will happen next.

Can anybody help. thanks.

  • Preliminary letter sent 15/01/2007 received 16/01/2007 :cool:
  • LBA sent 29/01/2007 received 30/01/2007 8-)
  • Mcol filed on 12/02/2007 8-) acknowledged 14/02/2007

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now, send the courts 2 copies of your breakdown, with a reference to your claim number - asking for them to be attached to your claim - use the address on the paperwork. also, send dg - address on pg 2 of your acknowl. 1 copy of your breakdown - with claim ref. no.

the date of issue is the counting date - they now have 28 days from that date to file a defense - this is the long wait. just use the time to read other threads and get a feel for what may come next if they don't offer before they file a defense - which lately - very few offers come before the 28 days is up. patience is a virtue!

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thanks laterlus for your quick reply. Date of issue would be 12th Feb then. Copies already sent to court, will post copy to DG. Undestand they are filing defence at last minute! Mrs Jones here so I am trying to get a grips with it myself. Once defence is filed what happens then?

  • Preliminary letter sent 15/01/2007 received 16/01/2007 :cool:
  • LBA sent 29/01/2007 received 30/01/2007 8-)
  • Mcol filed on 12/02/2007 8-) acknowledged 14/02/2007

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well that's easy this month - 28 days will be 12th Mar.

yes, they usually do file at the last minute.

once defense is filed you receive from courts a transfer to local court, a copy of their (hsbc) defense, and an allocation questionaire which will need to be sent in (with £100 if the claim is over 1500) in about 2 weeks from receiving it. hopefully, you'll get an offer before it is due - but if not, we are here and will help you fill it in (very easy - just a couple of things we add), and that's it - also, during that time you'll be bugging dg - hoping for an offer - more about that later - just read other threads - some who have just moved to that next stage just passed yours are: netty, rundl, beresd, johnnymitch, noel and a stack of others - so no shortage of reading material. just read and chill for a couple of weeks.

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28 days is up today!!. getting ready to do the AQ. Looks like thats the way it's going. Haven't heard anything from anybody since started claiming, just one letter with the leaflet to read!! from Colin.

  • Preliminary letter sent 15/01/2007 received 16/01/2007 :cool:
  • LBA sent 29/01/2007 received 30/01/2007 8-)
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did you try pressing the judgment button - if it's too early it won't let you press and if they have filed a defense - then it will say you can't continue.

if they defend - you'll get paperwork including aq in about 2-3 days. it will be due in about 2 weeks - so no rush to get it in - just don't miss the deadline.

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I keep pressing it, just for fun, but nothing as of yet. They will probably enter defence at midnight. I am waiting up just in case they forget. If they don't file a defence tonight will I win or can they apply for more time to enter their defence ?

  • Preliminary letter sent 15/01/2007 received 16/01/2007 :cool:
  • LBA sent 29/01/2007 received 30/01/2007 8-)
  • Mcol filed on 12/02/2007 8-) acknowledged 14/02/2007

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the button will let you know - if the judgment is accepted - then - talk about an anti-climax - the judge usually gives them an extra 7 days to file anyway! yes, i know, we've all said the same ! how silly is that. i've been watching this stuff for about 9 months now and i only saw two get their judgments that way. they will defend - you'll get the aq to fill in. but press it regardless.

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Hello All,

 

I don't want to put a dampner on proceedings but HSBC have 28 days from date of service not date of issue. My claim was issed on 13th Feb and acknowledged on 15th but not officially served until 18th Feb. This means they have until 18th March to defend (although as this is a sunday they will have to by 16th)

 

As you are only 1 day ahead of me it's likely they have until the end of the week....keep holding on it won't be long now!

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wel it seems andy is right i still cant press the judgement button yet so AAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGG.:mad:...

there i feel better now :) cheers andy for the info, altho im not sure but wont they have till the following monday rather than the friday?

  • Preliminary letter sent 15/01/2007 received 16/01/2007 :cool:
  • LBA sent 29/01/2007 received 30/01/2007 8-)
  • Mcol filed on 12/02/2007 8-) acknowledged 14/02/2007

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well even when they do miss the 28 deadline the banks seem to get away with it......having looked at other threads they generally seem to defend a couple of days before. Someone (I forget who) who is 2 days ahead of me received defense on friday so hopefully we will hear today or tomorrow. Will let you know as soon I know.

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AQ deadline was 1st April. have phoned Court and DG had not submitted their AQ. Have sent the nudge letter to DG and emailed too!, but have still heard nothing from DG. STILL WAITING!!!

  • Preliminary letter sent 15/01/2007 received 16/01/2007 :cool:
  • LBA sent 29/01/2007 received 30/01/2007 8-)
  • Mcol filed on 12/02/2007 8-) acknowledged 14/02/2007

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ring the court on tues and ask if they have and then say - "so, could you please tell me what happens next?" you might mention the unless letter.

When you have filed your AQ................ (multipage.gif1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page)

see post 1 for some court speak. you are just trying to push that bit forward a little as well - not so much as because you want to file a default - more because you want to use the info to prod dg into and offer.

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ok i have just got off the phone to the court......it seems dg have filed their aq and it is now waiting for the judge, the lady said it will be a couple of weeks before we hear from them :Cry:

  • Preliminary letter sent 15/01/2007 received 16/01/2007 :cool:
  • LBA sent 29/01/2007 received 30/01/2007 8-)
  • Mcol filed on 12/02/2007 8-) acknowledged 14/02/2007

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